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[WeaselThor]

Unrelated to everything i had to show you guys this.

 

[Andrita]

WeaselThor Interesting....

 

[WeaselThor]

As for your character im gonna have to think About it... The fact she can make omega+ powers means by definition she is omega+ herself. Which would be your second One to "Crash Cerebro." a feat which only omega level and beyond has done. Im not exactly sure i want to let this one in but hey its late And im sleepy. Ill get back to you. Andrita

 

[Andrita]

WeaselThor Okay. Thank you for your time. While she can, It would only be done if you approved of it during the RP process. I also didn't plan on doing an Omega Level or above wish or ability until if you told me I could... Which would heavily limit her to being Alpha or Beta level. If you say no, all I have to do is remove the ability creation and just have her having split personalities that are Beta Level/Alpha Level , or only have abilities up to Beta/Alpha.

I would like more input please from other Users.

 

[Coldpopz]

AHHHHHH IT'S SUCH GOOD CHARACTER BALANCE BUT THE CHARACTER ITSELF IS ON SUCH A GRAND SCALE.

I think this would qualify as a cosmic type character who should really function like other cosmic beings. In other words, they are never seen until the plot demands it. Liiiiiike... if we ever do something with the Beyonder or Doctor Doom, stuff like that.

 

[Peaceswore]

I have very mixed feelings on the character. For one, I find her powers to be OP as hell. Sure it can't be omega level, but it's not like Alpha/Beta/Gamma powers are something to scoff at. Being capable of giving a character any kind of power even if you personally cant possess doesn't really weaken the power.

While I get the attempt to weaken the character, with the personalities and such. Personally, I feel like it's too easy for such a character to power play. Even if you don't want them to, that could leave potential plot holes, cause issues, etc imo

 

[Andrita]

Coldpopz Wow. Thanks for the positive response. I do hope that we can work a compromise here.

P Peaceswore Thank you for the feedback. While I agree for the most part... Like I said I'll be contacting Ultra constantly on whether or not a character can get a certain ability/wish or not. Likely via a private message to avoid the chat being constantly dumped with multiple " Can I 's " . It won't be me determining this alone. So, I am doing that to avoid any metagaming or anything.

Capza ... Not trying to bother you if you don't care to respond... But can I please also ask for your opinion on the matter ?

 

[Capza]

Frank, that character is super OP. Like Madame Web, Beyonder level. Or Franklin Richards level. How about tone it down a bit.

 

[Andrita]

Capza ... Thank you. That Feedback... Was... Uhmm... Effective ? The problem is... I toned it down a ridiculous amount in comparison to what it could have been. All 3 of those characters you mentioned would beat her due to her powers can't be used offensively for her own good If each of them fought her, she'd be killed. Literally she only stands a chance against Betas and below. Most Omegas would wtfpwn her.

Here is a question for you guys : How many characters would wait until her wishes or abilities get set off in a official fight if they planned on killing her ? How many characters in this RP are above normal humans strength ? Everyone in the RP. They can oneshot her before the Mistress' even play a role.

Even with the Mistress' out, their powers are only really good if given the time to prep others using abilities & wishes , which for the most part can't even happen without Ultra's consent . If in a real on the edge battle, they can't hope to use their hax abilities during a hardcore fight. They would get murdered if they attempted to do so, unless the character fighting them is just purely dumb.

Plus I said prior here and in the character profile I was going to limit them to Beta and Alpha levels with wishes / abilities being granted until given the OK to do otherwise. I felt like this should be stated again.

Sorry if that sounded a bit hostile. But I still feel this was actually incredibly balanced in comparison to other things I've done.

 

[Andrita]

That's the last time I an going to defend this. Whatever WeaselThor says next will determine what I change about the character.

 

[Capza]

So she's like what, our white mage, our healer? How about granting wishes she can summon monsters from cards or video games. Make her carry a Switch, Vista, PSP, and 3DS and tons of cartridge and she can summon monsters from that video games consoles. Or make her carry a Yugioh card deck.

 

[Peaceswore]

Tbh,if you want a character that is a great support type, but not inherintly op. I'd suggest the power to control beneficial auras. That way your character has the freedom of buffing characters, be it added speed, power, healing, all to a certain extent that fits your character. This allows a character to still be extremely useful, yet it also stops them from being worrisomely op. While I understand you don't intend to power play. I do feel as though this power can be a liability or an extra burden to the GM. For she will have to spend extra time to make sure it isn't used to undermine the RP or other players.

So she's like what, our white mage, our healer? How about granting wishes she can summon monsters from cards or video games. Make her carry a Switch, Vista, PSP, and 3DS and tons of cartridge and she can summon monsters from that video games consoles. Or make her carry a Yugioh card deck.

She can't grant wishes that effect her. Also, you may want to be more aware of how you word things. You may come off more hostile/rude then intended. ^^;

 

[Andrita]

I didnt sense any hositility or rudeness. I agree with you guys for the most part. I truly do. But I'd like to hear the GM's final say before I make any changes. I don't want to make these changes and find out later he/she was fine with how it was prior. It happened a few times before with other GM's.

 

[Andrita]

Just a wild suggestions : Maybe we could... Have a trial run with the character as is... And if the GM says it is too much or it doesn't fit , I immediately change it ? Or... Would that require too much work ?

 

[Peaceswore]

Just a wild suggestions : Maybe we could... Have a trial run with the character as is... And if the GM says it is too much or it doesn't fit , I immediately change it ? Or... Would that require too much work ?

Likely would be a good deal of work. Though really, any more discussion on this should wait till the GM has their say

 

[Andrita]

I'm sorry . Yeah I agree we should wait for him/her .

 

[Coldpopz]

Personally, I actually want an OC who can affect things on a cosmic scale. It wouldn't be much different from Ultra yanking out the Phoenix since he would still have total control over Maddie; the thing I find interesting is that it wouldn't be a canon character who shakes things up this time around. Big picture characters who only get used 1-3 times for big sh*t are cool imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Andrita]

Coldpopz .... Interesting perspective.

 

[WeaselThor]

Ok i am awake.

So after reading all this and having some time to think...

I still think the character is a no go. Each person has put good reasons as to why or why not.

My reasons are as follows.

1.the character's powers bend reality. Thats usually a no go for me.

2nd. Any villain worth his salt would never stop looking for this character. I dont care how weak the powers are, whats to stop a bad guy from trapping her and using her wishes to accumulate 100s of powers.

3. I currently have a plan and several threats in mind. It's already hard enough to control the story as is. Since im not gonna implement limits on number of characters im gonna need to limit those characters magnitude.

4Th we have plenty of powerful characters already...send some street level heroes my way.

5th. The only way to make this character usable would be to nerf her to the point that i dont think she would be any fun.

 

[WeaselThor]

Personally, I actually want an OC who can affect things on a cosmic scale. It wouldn't be much different from Ultra yanking out the Phoenix since he would still have total control over Maddie; the thing I find interesting is that it wouldn't be a canon character who shakes things up this time around. Big picture characters who only get used 1-3 times for big sh*t are cool imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And actually there is a large difference. While i control characters i can steer them in the direction of the plot. The only way i can do so for others characters is to give spoilers.

Plus i am gonna yank out the Phoenix.

 

[Andrita]

I won't respond to your five rebuttals because it likely won't convince you. I may just make some wannabe superhero or something . I don't know. I do not know at all. I was so gung-ho on this idea, using at least 6 hours of time trying to perfect it ( I am not exaggerating. I planned this well before I decided to do Carmen Cruise ) so it could be balanced , show you guys you could control over what happened concerning the wishes, and make it just a fun experience . Seeing it wouldn't do either, and instead would literally hurt the RP hurt a lot more than you guys think it would.

So my watered down version : A variation of the character that instead of wishes/abilities creation had two split personalities that transform into a beta level mutants, each with one relatively generic abilities [ NOT op ] , wouldn't be accepted at all because you want a street level hero ? Then... I'm not sure what to create.

 

[Peaceswore]

I won't respond to your five rebuttals because it likely won't convince you. I may just make some wannabe superhero or something . I don't know. I do not know at all. I was so gung-ho on this idea, using at least 6 hours of time trying to perfect it ( I am not exaggerating. I planned this well before I decided to do Carmen Cruise ) so it could be balanced , show you guys you could control over what happened concerning the wishes, and make it just a fun experience . Seeing it wouldn't do either, and instead would literally hurt the RP hurt a lot more than you guys think it would.

So my watered down version : A variation of the character that instead of wishes/abilities creation had two split personalities that transform into a beta level mutants, each with one relatively generic abilities [ NOT op ] , wouldn't be accepted at all because you want a street level hero ? Then... I'm not sure what to create.

The GM is not denying more strong characters from my understanding. Rather they would prefer if not all the given character were Alpha/Beta/or potential Omega/cosmic levels.

 

[Field Marshall]

WeaselThor i totally forgot to include Dane's association with MI-13(British Avengers) could I add that after Dane finishes his fight with Neon?

 

[WeaselThor]

I won't respond to your five rebuttals because it likely won't convince you. I may just make some wannabe superhero or something . I don't know. I do not know at all. I was so gung-ho on this idea, using at least 6 hours of time trying to perfect it ( I am not exaggerating. I planned this well before I decided to do Carmen Cruise ) so it could be balanced , show you guys you could control over what happened concerning the wishes, and make it just a fun experience . Seeing it wouldn't do either, and instead would literally hurt the RP hurt a lot more than you guys think it would.

So my watered down version : A variation of the character that instead of wishes/abilities creation had two split personalities that transform into a beta level mutants, each with one relatively generic abilities [ NOT op ] , wouldn't be accepted at all because you want a street level hero ? Then... I'm not sure what to create.

That would be more than acceptable. To clarify though you dont have to make weak characters. We totally have other OP characters. The issue was more so the metaphysical nature of the characters. For example Franklin richards and your wish granter both share something in common. Their powers dont really have a "you cant do that" aspect. Either of them can just warp reality and do anything. Thats the same reason i wouldnt accept pheonix, and the same reason i wont accept any incarnation of scarlet witch or galactus. Thats the issue not so much what the ability is but what its potential is. Dont choose a power that can do anything choose a power that you can use in many different ways.

 

[WeaselThor]

WeaselThor i totally forgot to include Dane's association with MI-13(British Avengers) could I add that after Dane finishes his fight with Neon?

Indeed that could be how we introduce Leon.