Fandom Homestuck Roleplay: Sburb Omega

[Snek]

Ryik, I think you misunderstand. I never said her house was a treehouse.


 
In my head, I picture Crocia's house as a larger version of this:

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

I mean, if that's under the pretense of having additional people in your party who Prototype, sure, you can skip prototyping. But I'm still wondering about this.

 

[Ryik]

Hmm. Misread some bits about vines and ropes and "just a little shack".

 

[Snek]

Crocia mentioned that her lusus must have stolen her game copies from the deck of her hive while she was out. I know it's a big animal, but it still at least functionally resembles a crocodile, and I doubt it'd be able to climb a tree.

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

The main reason I have such objection to not Prototyping is because I have a rising suspicion you'll do it as well given your lack of words stating any prototyping ideas for Ryan. Then again, your ways of not speaking such ideas aren't exactly uncommon for anyone else. I suppose I'm just more open and sharing.

 

[Ryik]

I doodled up a "sketch" of Ryan's apartment for convenience, mainly the living room.


I put absolutely no effort into this masterpiece. I even forgot to add the balcony at the end of the hallway that leads to the bedrooms.


As for Kernelsprites... Oh man, so many options. I think I'll wait on Kat and Crocia's choices before deciding what to go with though.

 

[Snek]

Crocia's prototyping is obvious. No Mobius Double Reacharound Virus, so her lusus won't die, but it doesn't have to die for her to prototype it. Actually, the way I have planned, it's going to prototype itself.


 
As for what comes second, no clue. I'll have to think about that one.

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

I think I know what to do for mine, nothing not done before yet still not quite as clear cut and boring as some other Kernel's have tended to be.


I think I'll have the Tiger fall on the great fairy statue and then after they enter the Medium it'll go in as one object (similar to the dead crow with a sword through it) and turn into GreatTigerlilySprite, nicknamed GTS, and then James will turn it into JamesSprite by prototyping his blood into the Sprite. Making it some weird form of reddish magenta Fairy Tiger prince.

 

[Ryik]

Actually I don't think sprites work like that.


Maybe if you impaled the tiger with the statue, but otherwise two unrelated objects touching doesn't really seem to count.


Dave's dead crow was practically fused with that blade.

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

I forgot to mention the Tiger would be ejected from his modus and then impaled on the Statue, sorry.


 
But anyway, maybe James would go on a quest to have one of the Prospit Dreamers get the Queen's ring so he can stoke the Fires of the sessions forge for Genesis frog business.

 

[Ryik]

[QUOTE="Elision of Ecritures]I forgot to mention the Tiger would be ejected from his modus and then impaled on the Statue

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Seems legit.

[QUOTE="The Villain King]Another meteor lands outside. At this rate, you're going to be at the bottom of the swamp before your friends figure out who your server is.

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To be clear, the sequence of events would be Katherine enters the medium>Crocia and Ryan connect>Crocia enters the medium>Ryan and James connect>Ryan enters the medium, so on and so forth.


We'll be (or should be anyway) entering mediums quickly and connecting with the next person in the chain soon (more or less immediately) after so that people can RP with more freedom faster.


That being said, Katherine still needs to enter the medium, lest we have potential for ridiculousness like Crocia entering before Katherine.

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

And Villain, I'm sorry yet again to be picky with your post but reviewing and watching some old pages of Homestuck, I realise now that only four Items Can be deployed to the first Client and Server pair for each session, that being the Cruxtruder, Alchemitter, Totem Lathe and the final is the Pre-Punched Card, all of these being at no expense to build grist while the Pre-Punch Designix is costly in terms of beginners and requires Grist to be built.


 
Now that I dwell upon it, since the amount of beginning Grist increases for each person who enters the Medium next, would tat imply that a larger session like the Trolls would have the final person (Sollux I believe?) having a very large amount of Grist? Or maybe would it only increase by a lesser amount as there are more people? Ah, the questions.


 
And Ryik, I believe taht if Ryan were to make a connection to Crocia s her Server currently, and they simultaneously acted as each others servers while Kat would enter first, if Crocia were to enter second but only by a small margin of time after she helps Kat enter, that would still be acceptable wouldn't it? It's not really my place, I'm just trying to spark up the topic of conversation.

 

[Ryik]

No clue on the grist, but the Punch Designix costs Shale, meaning you can only deploy it once you've entered the medium and slain some imps. By the way, we need to be careful not to spend more grist than we have. I don't think we need to keep track of the grist and every material like an excessively complicated RPG, but an approximation (ie. a little, a lot, a metric fuckton) should be enough to keep track of how much we have and how much we spend.


You can loophole your way around it, getting shale before entering, (gristTorrent) but not as the first person in a chain.


Homestuck's lesser explored mechanics are really vague, but yeah, I just think connecting to a server who hasn't brought their client into the medium would get messy. Once they're actually in the medium however, (and maybe the punch designix is deployed because of how important it is) the server can be brought in themselves.

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

Good notes. We'll be sure to approximate the cost of items of Grist accordingly as well, such as how the Kids always said 'God this thing I'm about to Alchemize is so mysterious and.probably cool it costs am arm and a leg but were never going to explore what it is and instead concentrate on what matters, like motherfucking leprachaun romance.' Or something along those lines.


Anyway, I'm thinking James' land will be laid out like a huge dark void in the center of the Inciphisphere with some green or land colored parts surrpund ing that, but in comparison to the world as a whole, they just take up a small fraction. This is because his land is called The Land of Sky and Frogs, or maybe something like that wherein the mytjos surrounds around how all the Frogs in the land were taken by Echidna to the center of the earth where the exact core became her resting place as well as the prison of Countless Frogs (nicknamed as 'World' by James' consorts due to their impirtance to Breeding) and then the core began to die out and made the entire land below a wasteland of bitter, dark gray earth which was abandoned. So the Consorts took to the Sky and cultivated there where the fog and clouds caused by climate change were much less thick higher in the atmosphere. How the hell they did it would require normally an insurmountable number of puzzles and bullshit. But that's not really in the Cards of a person who's destiny is mainly to slay and destroy. Thusly Frog Breeding and lighting the Forge are interwoven parts of his main Quest.

 

[Ryik]

The Land of Burns and Binds...


By far the most hellish of the planets. Imps themselves would eventually just die if left alone long enough. Would probably be good for farming grist. That is, until you step in a trap.


In other news, I'm all for multiplicative grist (20, 200, 2,000, 20,000, 200,000 and 2,000,000) on the basis that each prototyping supposedly makes enemies stronger.

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

Well, Im all.for.it.on the condition that all of the players submit at least one thing for prototyping thw if Sprites with before they enter the medium because I believe that Skaia is crucial in being needed for its final form, which I assume is only activated upon the arrival of all six prototypings. In both shown sessions, that being the Trolls and the Kids from B1 (B2 doesn't count for obvious reasons), have all prototyped something into their kernelsprite before entering the Medium and both of these sessions have reached the final Form of Skaia as can be shown and proven. So, we'll just all have to follow that rule, at least to be safe.


 
Sounds like Yalgobath would live there additionally. Scary stuff.


 
Yaldabaoth rater, sorry.


 
While Echidna on the other hand I'm still trying to grasp at her exact personality. I mean, has anyone considered that Denizen's personalities, even if they are the same people or rather incarnation, just like Jack Noir, can be changed from their environment?

 

[Ryik]

I had forgotten about the matter of denizens.


Are we going off of the assumption that besides Yaldabaoth, all denizens are linked to an aspect? (and vice versa) Or will we be making up denizens for everyone except James and Echidna? (Who seems to be a constant)


And should I/can I give Ryan Yaldabaoth as his denizen? It'd certainly match his whole ideal of becoming the very best like no one ever was whether he actually is/isn't/will be/won't be, and as you brought up the planet fits him to a T. It's even mostly red like Yaldabaoth's color scheme, and its history would involve being "sun"-scorched at some point, which far better suits Yaldabaoth than Abraxas.


Another unrelated matter of often forgotten business is fraymotifs.


They're not too important, but I vote for them to be like video game (particularly fighting game) super moves; strong and perhaps flashy even, but drains enough "mana" so you can't use it all the time. There's even three varieties of varying prices for each character. That makes me think 1 bar, 2 bar and 3 bar (of mana/super meter) supers.

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

The entire business of Denizens seem to be very tricky as we get to it. In all honesty Rose and Rpxy shared a Denizen, Nix as I believe but actually don't share the same aspect, being parralell opposites as Light and Void. Obscurity and Knowledge while Echidna was Callie's Denizen in a parralell timeline, while Yaldaboath was Caliborns, while Dave's was in a very annoying twist Hephaestus. I'm starting to doubt any necessary Links besides Echidna's constant appearance to All Space players, most likely due to her need of presence and role in the Sburb Plotline of Having a role in frog breeding and the creation of the Genesis frog. The thing however remains that for Echidna, she was Mother of monsters, a figure of Creation, Nyx, in relation to Roxy at least was a Goddess of Night and obviously pairs with Void while Typheus is a variation of the word Typhoeus in Greek Mythology, a Titan or spirit of storms, IE the word Typhoon.


However, Yaldabaoth (God that's a mouthful) can be speculated to be a Denizen only in Dead Sessions. Understandably this is because he gives extreme choices, has an immensely inhospitable nature which makes for a very difficult Quests while additionally only being found in Caliborns session which was.of.course dead and in addition the Void session with Dirk. In summation as much as I'd like to grant it, Yaldabaoth seems to be an extreme force of nature unique to special sessions and I don't particularly want to entertain the fact this session with our Characters is slated for damnation or will give Ryan very terrible and Umiverse(s) changing choices. I suggest a different kind of Denizen for your land.


Continuing on the matter since The Land of Binds and Burns or Burns and Binds, LOBAB to confuse less slightly bothers me whilst on topic. The example of Eridans land actually fits somewhat of the one examples of Hope, his aspect, Angels.while Jake remains slightly confusing on the fact that he has the land of Xenon and Mounds, perhaps a poor example of a land due to it belonging to a Void session.


In what real way does Binds or Burns truly represent hope? I of course always invite your to state your case but Eridans example of Hope, angels, are a particular example of a faith based figure which are real due to ones faith in them.


 
And for the business of Fraymotifs, I wouldn't worry to much about their functions exactly due to the fact that for John and Dave, John needed at least one Boonbuck, which he achieved only through climbing up to a very impressive Ectobabysitter Rung on his Echeladder which normally takes a while to get to if I'm not mistaken. So we'll just leave that order of Business....forgotten, until our characters have made some progress, which, if we want to really enjoy it, will take a little while.

 

[Snek]

It's heavily implied in the series that Rose's original aspect was intended to be Void, but she rebelled against her assigned role and became a Light player. So it makes sense that she and Rose would share a denizen.


EDIT: Did research. Rose's denizen was actually Cetus, not Nyx. So it doesn't matter anyways.

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

Mmm, I suppose it would make a lot of sense. Oh, and this.


And Villain, I'm sorry yet again to be picky with your post but reviewing and watching some old pages of Homestuck, I realise now that only four Items Can be deployed to the first Client and Server pair for each session, that being the Cruxtruder, Alchemitter, Totem Lathe and the final is the Pre-Punched Card, all of these being at no expense to build grist while the Pre-Punch Designix is costly in terms of beginners and requires Grist to be built.


Or maybe you already did that. Just checking.


So I suppose t would imply your Denizen is one who relates to your Aspect in some way, or at least to your own personal self with the example, but It would be easier if such a denizen were more accustomed to your aspect.


 
Or rather not Grist to be built, but Shale, one of the multiple modes of currency in-game typically dropped by Shale imps.


 
Huh, so I suppose it does have to stick to your own Aspect after all.

 

[Ryik]

Rose' denizen was Cetus, not Nix. Echidna seems to always be assigned to a space player. Yaldabaoth is merely implied to be more common in dead sessions.


Don't get me wrong, I'm partial to the idea that denizens aren't tied to aspects, (besides Echidna, because Echidna's quills seem to be the #1 designated way to cause a scratch) but does that mean we can start making up denizens?


The Land of Burns and Binds was originally the most hopeful place you could ever see, comparable to the garden of eden, but with more roses. A planet's quest seeks to rectify whatever chaos the denizen has unleashed upon it, give or take. (Space players seem to always have to light their forge and accomplish their frog-breeding duties) John's planet, LOWAS, was flooded with oil, which he had to get his denizen to funnel back in and then "scatter (it) across existence", thereby cleaning up the planet and all the problems the oil caused.


Anyway, the Land of Burns and Binds is mostly covered in dying roses, their remaining thorny vines strangling everything in a desperate last attempt at survival. Because of its unnatural climate and mass die-off of plants, it's a dusty red. The sky is perpetually covered in clouds, held back from raining properly by the atmospheric heat, but it's cool enough on the surface for the vapor to get through. In a nutshell what this does is turn the dust of the planet into a skin irritant, mainly because of the moistening and drying of dead roses everywhere. In other words, the ground is not literally on fire, (mostly) but letting it touch your skin will burn.


The heaven/hell imagery is strong in LOBAB.


Anyway, the goal is to get it back to how it was by making the denizen cool the planet again. Because it's a video game, the plants shouldn't take any time to grow back, and just like the Land of Wind and Shade (since all the clouds got blown away) the planet's name wouldn't fit anymore.


Unrelatedly I found what exactly you had to do to breed a frogiverse:

In order to breed frogs, the designated frog breeder must use the Ectobiology Apparatus to create paradox slime of frogs. They then have to go hunt down the same frogs that were cloned and interact with them in some way. This causes them to appear as slime when appearified by the player in the past, in order to prevent the time paradox that would ensue from the frog not being there in the future when the player goes to hunt it, in order to cause the appearifier to appearify the sludge instead of the real thing to prevent a paradox, which will only happen because of its paradox-prevention mechanism in the first place. Somehow creating a paradoxical reverse temporal unparadox without using any time travel.

Jade just had help from Dave to make it faster. (In comparison, Kanaya spent weeks doing it, and said she was rushed)

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

Well, as long as you stick the concept of keeping to the whole 'figure in some form of mythology' thing, you could go for Fortuna or Mercury for all I care. But more or less here Yaldaboath had the power to give Caliborn a choice which allowed him to become the Lord English all of our characters fear today. An immortal time traveling demon traversing universes upon more universes in search of being the villain basically everywhere. I just....really don't wnat to entertain the concept of Yaldabaoth in a session which isn't unique like a Dead or Void session.


But pertaining to the other aspect of the land, such as the Frog aspect for any Space player or John's LOWAS, where the wind atually wasn't present until he played the song and got rid of the oil, would two aspects of a Land be irrelevant after a quest is completed? After Kanaya and Jade lit their forges both lands changed but there was always Frogs pertaining to their land, or how John made the wind come again to his land, making one aspect still relevant.


And to add there was Jade's LOFAF, not so frosty now.


Oh god that's annoying. I'm trying o wrap my head around this.


 
Ok, here we are.


James appearifies a frog and gets sludge, then he finds that frog, hunts it down and interacts with it in some random way and then makes a Paradox duplicate of it, then what?

 

[Ryik]

Yeah yeah, I'd rather have an original denizen than Yaldabaoth anyway.


No need to worry about the planets so much. As long as the initial idea makes sense, it's legitimate. John's planet was very wind-oriented even before he cleared the oil; the pipes all over the planet were very wind-centric blah blah blah it's fine.


For frog breeding, it goes like this: James needs to appearify paradox slime of a frog in the future. He then goes out and finds that frog and interacts with it so that he could never have been appearified, causing a paradox, and letting James appearify slime instead of the frog itself. He then uses the paradox slimes from various frogs and breeds them over and over until it eventually reaches the point where the tadpole bred has become a universe. The next part is sketchy, but I'm pretty sure he then gives it to Echidna to hold and nurture until everyone has built up their house as high as possible and confronted their denizen, gaining access to the grist horde in their planets, then installing a grist rig. This next part is really sketchy, but then I believe the grist hordes and genesis tadpole are put in skaia to be grown at the same time as the war goes on, and as such players must stop the war by defeating the black king and queen. (Although it seems the queen is usually defeated or otherwise takes off her ring earlier)


I kind of skipped over the "binds" part of LOBAB but explaining it unsolicited would make me feel like Aranea.


Screw Fortuna and Mercury when I could have BISHAMONTEN. (He fits as Ryan's denizen more than you will ever know)

 

[Elision of Ecritures]

Well actually it becomes the Genesis Frog by retaining the 'perfect Genetic code' from all the breeding to perfection, similar to how in Final Fantasy Chokobos can be bred to a point where a 'golden chokobo' is created, retaining speed and travel.abilities unlike any other Chokobo. And the Genesis Tadpole, in its earliest stages is then tossed into the Lit Forge for Echidna to keep.

 

[Snek]

Bishamonten, god of wealth and treasure? Doesn't that fit Crocia? Although technically, greed is his enemy, but still.