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Fantasy Freelancer Files (Red vs. Blue)

Assailant said:
How...
What...


you act like I just said an insult...


I didn't insult him...


Max: And trust me, we didn't forget. I never forget a tyrant like him.


Hey, Max, do you even know why you're fighting.


Max: He's a tyrant!


What did he do?


Max: I don't know, the lore hasn't explained that.


Fair enough.
Max forgot something too.


Plus I think there is some info on why the rebellion is happening. And it's also got nothing to do with my father being a tyrant.
 
[QUOTE="Shadowborn Omen]Max forgot something too.
Plus I think there is some info on why the rebellion is happening. And it's also got nothing to do with my father being a tyrant.

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Hmm. Well, I'll be honest, I don't accept that alone. I don't like a story with a clear good guy and bad guy, so I'm thinking of a way to make it seem like the rebellion is not the "bad guy," because that's not how life works.


I maintain the lore isn't complete.
 
[QUOTE="Darth Corvus]What the hell? Where is Jersey's CS? I kinda need it for some info gathering for Seer.

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Never mind, I found it. Damn it, Ancient. Why did you have to make it so hard to locate?
 
Assailant said:
Hmm. Well, I'll be honest, I don't accept that alone. I don't like a story with a clear good guy and bad guy, so I'm thinking of a way to make it seem like the rebellion is not the "bad guy," because that's not how life works.
I maintain the lore isn't complete.
I didn't say there was a set good or bad guy from the lore, because there isn't. Realistically I don't see Marcus as a bad person, Aegon does, but there are reasons for that.
 
[QUOTE="Shadowborn Omen]Plus I'm referring to the lore that TAC had in his first post. Which really doesn't signify the rebellion as bad.

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It makes it seem like the rebellion is only for money and power, making them stereotypical villains.
 
[QUOTE="Shadowborn Omen]That's absolutely not the impression I got from it, but okay.

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Maybe I'll reread it...


but seriously Huntery, just remember I'm waiting on you.
 
[QUOTE="Shadowborn Omen]Max forgot something too.
Plus I think there is some info on why the rebellion is happening. And it's also got nothing to do with my father being a tyrant.

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Hahaha. You forget there was a kingdom before in the West, and it wasn't explained completely what happened to it. Hehe.
 
[QUOTE="Shadowborn Omen]Are you saying I forget or are you adding on? .-.

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The Emperor isn't a tyrant, but maybe a conquerer.
 
[QUOTE="Shadowborn Omen]A tyrant is a cruel and oppressive ruler.
A conquerer? quite possibly. A tyrant? No.

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My son understands.
 
Assailant said:
Hmm. Well, I'll be honest, I don't accept that alone. I don't like a story with a clear good guy and bad guy, so I'm thinking of a way to make it seem like the rebellion is not the "bad guy," because that's not how life works.
I maintain the lore isn't complete.
But the story isn't of your making, so...SUCK IT. Lol.
 
[QUOTE="1stLt HChurch]But the story isn't of your making, so...SUCK IT. Lol.

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True, true...


but a role-play is built by EVERYONE involved, not just the creator.


And thank you Hunt, you have provided something to work off. Maxwell would definitely be against a militant state.
 
Assailant said:
It makes it seem like the rebellion is only for money and power, making them stereotypical villains.
That's the cornerstone of most great people in history (And those who attempt to emulate them), my friend. And we most times do not recognize them as fiends or villains. Ambition and a want of more political power is what drove figures like Julius Caesar to murder what (he) estimates to over a million people in Gaul, many of which are considered to be prisoners and those who've given up the fight. Making a name for himself among the Elite. Yet later, back in Rome he fought for the power of the plebeian class, redirecting surplus grains to the poor, giving away land, tax breaks. Which was one of the leading causes for the assassination (Apart from the obvious hatred on Kings on the Roman-Elites part,) was how heavily he favored the poor.


Point of the story? Caesars reasoning for doing good was purely selfish, yet he's recognized or remembered in a much lighter tone then what his deeds would portray him as, if he were doing them today. Through the political power he gained, he was able to make life for the poorer classes all the better. Is the Rebellion altruistic? No, no one is. Would them taking over lead to a massive tyrannical rule? Not any different from the current regime. Does it still have aspirations, certainly in the lower ranks of the Confederacy, to do better? Yeah, otherwise you'd be hard pressed to get an army to follow you if you didn't promise them something worth while? But back in a medieval centered world, you're not finding many people to rally behind you for the sake of "doing what is right", nor is that a persons primary concern back then.


I wouldn't say they're villains, just another side of the coin capable of doing both good and evil as it attempts to further itself.
 
TheAncientCenturion said:
That's the cornerstone of most great people in history (And those who attempt to emulate them), my friend. And we most times do not recognize them as fiends or villains. Ambition and a want of more political power is what drove figures like Julius Caesar to murder what (he) estimates to over a million people in Gaul, many of which are considered to be prisoners and those who've given up the fight. Making a name for himself among the Elite. Yet later, back in Rome he fought for the power of the plebeian class, redirecting surplus grains to the poor, giving away land, tax breaks. Which was one of the leading causes for the assassination (Apart from the obvious hatred on Kings on the Roman-Elites part,) was how heavily he favored the poor.
Point of the story? Caesars reasoning for doing good was purely selfish, yet he's recognized or remembered in a much lighter tone then what his deeds would portray him as, if he were doing them today. Through the political power he gained, he was able to make life for the poorer classes all the better. Is the Rebellion altruistic? No, no one is. Would them taking over lead to a massive tyrannical rule? Not any different from the current regime. Does it still have aspirations, certainly in the lower ranks of the Confederacy, to do better? Yeah, otherwise you'd be hard pressed to get an army to follow you if you didn't promise them something worth while? But back in a medieval centered world, you're not finding many people to rally behind you for the sake of "doing what is right", nor is that a persons primary concern back then.


I wouldn't say they're villains, just another side of the coin capable of doing both good and evil as it attempts to further itself.
True enough...


But that's why I'm having Max fight, if it's all the same to you. Not for money, or for power. He wants a less militant state. He aims more for democracy and diplomacy than war (yes, Max HAS tried diplomacy, even in the rebellion. He will continue to as well.) He views the king as a war monger, and Marcus as a much better alternative. That, and a more personal king.
 
Assailant said:
True enough...
But that's why I'm having Max fight, if it's all the same to you. Not for money, or for power. He wants a less militant state. He aims more for democracy and diplomacy than war (yes, Max HAS tried diplomacy, even in the rebellion. He will continue to as well.) He views the king as a war monger, and Marcus as a much better alternative. That, and a more personal king.
That's all fine. A movement such as the TAC rebellion is sure enough to attract all sorts of people who are discontent with the current Empire for one reason or another, and very much not a united movement in terms of beliefs. What with people from different regions undoubtedly joining, all having something that they think is criminal and unique to where they live.
 
@Darth Corvus I'm surprised he didn't note Rhode Island's more friendly and outgoing personality.


Wouldn't that make him easier to recruit or sway, or at the very least pacify?
 
Shadowborn Omen] [URL="https://www.rpnation.com/profile/10518-avidelmv2/ said:
@AvidElmV2[/URL] For my MIA soldier project my soldier's name is Quentin... Coincidence? I think not.
MIA soldier project? What's that for.....?
 
Assailant said:
@Darth Corvus I'm surprised he didn't note Rhode Island's more friendly and outgoing personality.
Wouldn't that make him easier to recruit or sway, or at the very least pacify?
For the most part, Assailant, Seer was paying attention to the liners and the ones he figured he might be able to get alone.
 
AvidElmV2 said:
MIA soldier project? What's that for.....?
My US History teacher is huge into the POW MIA Project (I think it's a project, I don't know for sure). Anyways, they have this thing where they have a group of people go into previous war zones and find US soldiers to be buried back home. Once a year he pulls up the list of all currently MIA soldiers from my home state and we pick one and research them.
 
[QUOTE="Shadowborn Omen]My US History teacher is huge into the POW MIA Project (I think it's a project, I don't know for sure). Anyways, they have this thing where they have a group of people go into previous war zones and find US soldiers to be buried back home. Once a year he pulls up the list of all currently MIA soldiers from my home state and we pick one and research them.

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And Quentin is one of the MIA's?


Quentin: What? But I'm right fucking here, I'm not MISSING!
 

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