Fairy Tail: A Fandom OOC

[LeSoraAmari]

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[Colt556]

You mention it all the time.
There could potentially be a ton of reworking one would need to make. They could potentially have to change abilities, spells, and a whole load of other things to fit that ranking. It's not as simple as just swapping the rank on the CS.

See, now you're just fabricating issues just so you can point to them and go "it's too much work". Nobody would have to rework anything. Not a single S-rank or Wizard Saint character has any abilities, spells, or anything else that is reliant on their current rank. It'd be the same spell, just weaker. Hibiki would still be able to use his satan souls, they'd just be weaker. Sora would still be able to use her dragon slayer magic, it'd just be Natsu tier in power. Valken could still use his shadow magic, he... well he never does fucking anything that a bloody B-rank couldn't do so absolutely no change there.


All rank dictates is the power of your magic, not what type of magic you can use. I've read every CS of every S-rank and Wizard Saint and I can't see anything that would have to be changed other than the rank itself and a general knowledge on the player's part that they can't go be a one-man army.


Edit: Also, just to be clear. If you don't want to downgrade your character that's fine. Just say so. If the players don't want to downgrade their characters then it'd be detrimental to the rp to force them to do so. But don't pretend it's something that it isn't, just be honest.

 

[Maki]

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[LeSoraAmari]

See, now you're just fabricating issues just so you can point to them and go "it's too much work". Nobody would have to rework anything. Not a single S-rank or Wizard Saint character has any abilities, spells, or anything else that is reliant on their current rank. It'd be the same spell, just weaker. Hibiki would still be able to use his satan souls, they'd just be weaker. Sora would still be able to use her dragon slayer magic, it'd just be Natsu tier in power. Valken could still use his shadow magic, he... well he never does fucking anything that a bloody B-rank couldn't do so absolutely no change there.
All rank dictates is the power of your magic, not what type of magic you can use. I've read every CS of every S-rank and Wizard Saint and I can't see anything that would have to be changed other than the rank itself and a general knowledge on the player's part that they can't go be a one-man army.

That's all you've done, you've read them. You wouldn't know if anything had to be reworked as you wouldn't have the understanding of the character that the actual creator of it would. I know I'd have to discard a good portion of Hibiki's Satan Souls because they simply would not fit with an A-Class mage.


I can assure you, I'm not fabricating any issues. You just simply don't understand because it most likely wouldn't be your characters that would be affected by any changes lmao

 

[LeSoraAmari]

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See. It is the purest of love. I don't know why anybody would hate it.

 

[Colt556]

That's all you've done, you've read them. You wouldn't know if anything had to be reworked as you wouldn't have the understanding of the character that the actual creator of it would. I know I'd have to discard a good portion of Hibiki's Satan Souls because they simply would not fit with an A-Class mage.
I can assure you, I'm not fabricating any issues. You just simply don't understand because it most likely wouldn't be your characters that would be affected by any changes lmao

I see nothing about Hibiki's satan souls that wouldn't work as an A-rank. Especially since Hibiki WAS an A-rank and still had those very satan souls. But ultimately that'd be your choice. No magic in fairy tail is restricted by rank. You can use literally any spell at any rank. Even scrubs like Cana could utilize one of the strongest spells out there. The only thing that changes is how powerful that spell is. So if you refuse to use certain magic because you're not an S-rank, that's a self-imposed restriction.

 

[LeSoraAmari]

I see nothing about Hibiki's satan souls that wouldn't work as an A-rank. Especially since Hibiki WAS an A-rank and still had those very satan souls. But ultimately that'd be your choice. No magic in fairy tail is restricted by rank. You can use literally any spell at any rank. Even scrubs like Cana could utilize one of the strongest spells out there. The only thing that changes is how powerful that spell is. So if you refuse to use certain magic because you're not an S-rank, that's a self-imposed restriction.

Lol things were added, I would have to take out a chunk of his magic if such a thing were to happen. As I'm sure others would too.

 

[Colt556]

Lol things were added, I would have to take out a chunk of his magic if such a thing were to happen. As I'm sure others would too.

Such as what? I'm looking at your CS right now and I don't see anything that requires S-rank.

 

[LeSoraAmari]

Such as what? I'm looking at your CS right now and I don't see anything that requires S-rank.

He's not your character, you wouldn't understand.

 

[Rhodus Prime]

He's not your character, you wouldn't understand.
His Seilah Soul would have to go, for definite.

Can you try to explain it so that we understand?

 

[Colt556]

He's not your character, you wouldn't understand.
His Seilah Soul would have to go, for definite.

I'm reading that and it's just basic electricity magic. Hell Noah just used that type of magic in his fight against my GH chick. And if you're referring to the macro magic, again that'd simply be weaker. Using a game example you'd be able to use it on grunt mages (such as what Valken's team are fighting) but not stronger enemies (such as the siren). So there's still nothing there that requires S-rank. Unless there's something about it that isn't written on your CS I don't see any reason why it couldn't be done at A-rank same way Noah uses his take over magic.

 

[LeSoraAmari]

Can you try to explain it so that we understand?

I'm not really in the mood to explain it tbh. Anything I say would most likely be argued against and picked apart anyway.

I'm reading that and it's just basic electricity magic. Hell Noah just used that type of magic in his fight against my GH chick. And if you're referring to the macro magic, again that'd simply be weaker. Using a game example you'd be able to use it on grunt mages (such as what Valken's team are fighting) but not stronger enemies (such as the siren). So there's still nothing there that requires S-rank. Unless there's something about it that isn't written on your CS I don't see any reason why it couldn't be done at A-rank same way Noah uses his take over magic.

The macro isn't a type of magic. It is a curse power. And there isn't any way to 'weaken' it because of that. The Seilah Soul is the soul from one of the Tartarous demons and her Macro is pretty much an 'absolute control' kind of thing. It'd have to go.

 

[Salt Lord]

I'm reading that and it's just basic electricity magic. Hell Noah just used that type of magic in his fight against my GH chick. And if you're referring to the macro magic, again that'd simply be weaker. Using a game example you'd be able to use it on grunt mages (such as what Valken's team are fighting) but not stronger enemies (such as the siren). So there's still nothing there that requires S-rank. Unless there's something about it that isn't written on your CS I don't see any reason why it couldn't be done at A-rank same way Noah uses his take over magic.

I'm not really in the mood to explain it tbh. Anything I say would most likely be argued against and picked apart anyway.
The macro isn't a type of magic. It is a curse power. And there isn't any way to 'weaken' it because of that. The Seilah Soul is the soul from one of the Tartarous demons and her Macro is pretty much an 'absolute control' kind of thing. It'd have to go.

You both should just drop it. We've already decided that no one was gonna lower their shit. There's literally no point in arguing over this other than just to argue.

 

[Colt556]

I'm not really in the mood to explain it tbh. Anything I say would most likely be argued against and picked apart anyway.
The macro isn't a type of magic. It is a curse power. And there isn't any way to 'weaken' it because of that. The Seilah Soul is the soul from one of the Tartarous demons and her Macro is pretty much an 'absolute control' kind of thing. It'd have to go.

It could be weakened as I described, but even if you didn't want to it's a spell that your own CS admits will only ever be used on NPCs and only with permission. So if that's the only thing you'd lose by going down to the same rank as everyone else, that's not exactly a huge re-work. It isn't like the macro curse is crucial to Hibiki in any form.

 

[LeSoraAmari]

It could be weakened as I described, but even if you didn't want to it's a spell that your own CS admits will only ever be used on NPCs and only with permission. So if that's the only thing you'd lose by going down to the same rank as everyone else, that's not exactly a huge re-work. It isn't like the macro curse is crucial to Hibiki in any form.

k.

 

[Colt556]

[QUOTE="Salt Lord]You both should just drop it. We've already decided that no one was gonna lower their shit. There's literally no point in arguing over this other than just to argue.

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I already said that. At this point I'm just arguing with Sora's fabrications because I dislike dishonesty. If people don't wanna downgrade their characters that's fine, they should just say so. Trying to pretend like there's other reasons is just disingenuous. It massively grinds my gears when people try to fabricate excuses instead of simply being honest. "I don't want to make my character weaker". That is the reasoning here, to try and pretend it's something else is a blatant lie and shouldn't be done. If people don't want to weaken their characters, that's fine, as I already said we've lasted this long with the power disparity. But don't sit there and lie to me, because that's when I really start arguing.

 

[LeSoraAmari]

I already said that. At this point I'm just arguing with Sora's fabrications because I dislike dishonesty. If people don't wanna downgrade their characters that's fine, they should just say so. Trying to pretend like there's other reasons is just disingenuous. It massively grinds my gears when people try to fabricate excuses instead of simply being honest. "I don't want to make my character weaker". That is the reasoning here, to try and pretend it's something else is a blatant lie and shouldn't be done. If people don't want to weaken their characters, that's fine, as I already said we've lasted this long with the power disparity. But don't sit there and lie to me, because that's when I really start arguing.

You just like to argue. That's what the problem was.


I had actually already said that I wouldn't be downgrading Hibiki, but I would be happy to downgrade my other characters.


But don't you dare call me a liar, because that is something I am not.

 

[Salt Lord]

I already said that. At this point I'm just arguing with Sora's fabrications because I dislike dishonesty. If people don't wanna downgrade their characters that's fine, they should just say so. Trying to pretend like there's other reasons is just disingenuous. It massively grinds my gears when people try to fabricate excuses instead of simply being honest. "I don't want to make my character weaker". That is the reasoning here, to try and pretend it's something else is a blatant lie and shouldn't be done. If people don't want to weaken their characters, that's fine, as I already said we've lasted this long with the power disparity. But don't sit there and lie to me, because that's when I really start arguing.

You just like to argue. That's what the problem was.
I had actually already said that I wouldn't be downgrading Hibiki, but I would be happy to downgrade my other characters.


But don't you dare call me a liar, because that is something I am not.

k


You aren't a lier and Colt hates lying. Let's leave it at that

 

[Genon]

@Mitchs98[/URL] could settle this situation via a dice roll if he wanted, deciding who among the S-classes lowers by one rank and who keeps their rank.


Keep in mind, Adrian was originally going to be a B-rank. I only upped him during my tournament match with @Colt556 because I realized that since Tanari was an A-rank, she'd wipe the floor with me and we'd no longer have a fun competition. Instead of dice rolls and strategy, it would be purely ranking that decided the match.


Since the average player is an S-rank or A-rank (and quite a few are Wizard Saints), it creates a situation where everyone wants to keep their power and no-one wants to let it go.


@LeSoraAmari


You are literally embodying what I'm trying to say. Hibiki is one of your mains. You're fine with relinquishing some power, but you still want to keep at least one S-class character so that you have somebody to fight other heavyweights with. Which is understandable, but contributes to the problem. As I said, I think that @Mitchs98 should settle this via dice rolls.


I also think that the Ten Wizard Saints should be left open. Perhaps due to chance and bureaucratic hiccups, there are no Wizard Saints right now? This would allow characters to attain the title of Wizard Saint through hard work and excellent performance, making the Wizard Saints more of a leaderboard of the top ten players. Does anyone have any objections?

 

[Colt556]

I'd actually be completely willing to lower Adrian a rank assuming that everyone else lowered theirs too. I think the problem is that if everyone lowers to A-rank and below, but we need S-ranks for realism, people won't be able to decide who should keep the S-rank, or accept that someone else got to be S-rank but that they couldn't for whatever reason. I personally think that @Mitchs98 could settle this situation via a dice roll if he wanted, deciding who among the S-classes lowers by one rank and who keeps their rank.
Keep in mind, Adrian was originally going to be a B-rank. I only upped him during my tournament match with @Colt556 because I realized that since Tanari was an A-rank, she'd wipe the floor with me and we'd no longer have a fun competition. Instead of dice rolls and strategy, it would be purely ranking that decided the match.


Since the average player is an S-rank or A-rank (and quite a few are Wizard Saints), it creates a situation where everyone wants to keep their power and no-one wants to let it go.


@LeSoraAmari


You are literally embodying what I'm trying to say. Hibiki is one of your mains. You're fine with relinquishing some power, but you still want to keep at least one S-class character so that you have somebody to fight other heavyweights with. Which is understandable, but contributes to the problem. As I said, I think that @Mitchs98 should settle this via dice rolls.


I also think that the Ten Wizard Saints should be left open. Perhaps due to chance and bureaucratic hiccups, there are no Wizard Saints right now? This would allow characters to attain the title of Wizard Saint through hard work and excellent performance, making the Wizard Saints more of a leaderboard of the top ten players. Does anyone have any objections?

If we have any wizard saint characters I'd want them to be restricted to guild masters, and even then relegated to low tier. I never wanted Gilad to be the second strongest guy on the continent. I wanted him to be like Jura when he first showed up (not when he was risen to 5th) The Wizard Saints in general should be left to NPCs, like how it is in the manga/anime. They show up on occasion but they're background characters, they aren't part of the main cast. So in RP terms they'd be NPCs that pop up as needed but generally aren't part of the RP. I mean these are suppose to be the strongest mages on the entire continent, I don't think they should really be something a normal character has. They should remain exclusively as "there's always a bigger fish" sort of thing as far as I'm concerned. That's why I've always been upset at the power creep, with Gilad at rank 2 there are no bigger fish, he is the biggest fish, and I never wanted that. There has to always be bigger fish out there otherwise there's no challenge to overcome.

 

[Mitchs98]

My thing is I'd hate to make people have to re-do their characters, in some cases entirely. I just..I'm confused .-.

 

[Colt556]

My thing is I'd hate to make people have to re-do their characters, in some cases entirely. I just..I'm confused .-.

That's why it has to be up to the players. Some kind of mandate demanding they change when they don't want to would only hurt their interest in the RP. If people don't want to downgrade their characters then we can't force them. Everything I say is just what I'd like to see, but I'm not exactly keen on hurting the RP to get it. After all what's the point of reeling in the power creep if there's no RP left?


So if people aren't willing to do it then that should be that, it's their choice to make.

 

[Happy Red Mage]

My thing is I'd hate to make people have to re-do their characters, in some cases entirely. I just..I'm confused .-.

I wouldn't mind.

 

[Colt556]

In non-power level debate news. Do you ever get the urge to deviate from your plan and fuck with people because someone else did something? Because reading Noah's post and how he literally just ditched an injured Mikado and Lysander who are standing right in front of a perfectly untouched Grimoire Heart mage really gives me that urge.

 

[Maki]

In non-power level debate news. Do you ever get the urge to deviate from your plan and fuck with people because someone else did something? Because reading Noah's post and how he literally just ditched an injured Mikado and Lysander who are standing right in front of a perfectly untouched Grimoire Heart mage really gives me that urge.

I can drop a surprise grace in to blow shit up if needed.