cyl
Creepy smile
With a few more xp I should be able to invest in heavy social group changing charms, so if you want some help with any group you have, feel free to ask. 
[Emperors of the Fading Suns] [Emperors of the Fading Suns] Projects Discussion
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WlfSamurai
Maelstrom Engineer
Awesome! Which ones in particular? I should be setting my sights on those as well.
cyl
Creepy smile
Wise-Eyed Courtier Method & Taboo Inflicting Diatribe.
But basically I'm going after the whole tree.
But basically I'm going after the whole tree.
WlfSamurai
Maelstrom Engineer
Oh yes. Those are good. Some decisions will have to be made soon on whether I continue into the "Healing" side or "Social" side. So far, social has been used far more.
cyl
Creepy smile
Why not do both ?
Feantari
Water Sprite
There's one medicine charm that would be useful. :-P But apparently I need to have Argis go talk to Keyneya sometime too. That said, social stuffs are definitely going to be useful. Between you and Malek we can hope to have a leader and diplomat and thus not have to be without one to have the other. That is pretty huge for Cross/Mirunda.
cyl
Creepy smile
Yes, obviously it's better to have two social monsters rather than just one.
That way, we can always have one ruler and one diplomat on the move.
That way, we can always have one ruler and one diplomat on the move.
WlfSamurai
Maelstrom Engineer
Yes. For sure.
Kacie
One Thousand Club
From the sidelines, here, but if you've gone far into the medicine tree, you should grab the limb-restoring charm. Argis might appreciate that.
Or he could get himself a jade prosthetic arm, and be badass.
There's also that horse of his, what with the missing teeth and eyeball.
Or he could get himself a jade prosthetic arm, and be badass.
There's also that horse of his, what with the missing teeth and eyeball.
Feantari
Water Sprite
Future projects:
Leaf of Heaven Dojo
Long term goal, Argis wants to establish a dojo for the education of students from Cross and throughout creation to the betterment of the students, the teachers, and the goals of Cross.
The dojo sits half a mile from Cross on a low rise in the junge. A path marked with flat stones winds through the jungle to meet it. Each stone bears an image. The ones near cross depict things important to life in Cross, those in the center significant events in its history, and those near the dojo depict principles of martial arts and form stances for different martial arts. The dojo itself is shaped like a leaf with a roof of living vines and wooden planks supported on ornately carved wooden pillars. A receiving room, tea room, and then large central training room are surrounded by smaller rooms for students and individual training. At the stem of the leaf a path is carved down into the stone beneath the dojo. Following the stairs down a large cave opens. Stone pillars stretching up from the floor circle the room around a flat central sparing floor. Here the dragon blooded may test themselves without endangering the dojo above.
Completion would be having built the dojo and found some students. Future improvement would be to find additional teachers and students and establish a reputation for the school.
The Library of Flowing Wisdom
A library of martial arts knowledge. Styles ascribed into scrolls by Argis or collected from around creation.
Definitely a further in the future project, but the aim would be to create a repository for the school. Lots of precautions about security should naturally guard such a thing... And of course just learning how to make such scrolls would be a task unto itself.
next up, actually putting together goals for the civil defense force project
Leaf of Heaven Dojo
Long term goal, Argis wants to establish a dojo for the education of students from Cross and throughout creation to the betterment of the students, the teachers, and the goals of Cross.
The dojo sits half a mile from Cross on a low rise in the junge. A path marked with flat stones winds through the jungle to meet it. Each stone bears an image. The ones near cross depict things important to life in Cross, those in the center significant events in its history, and those near the dojo depict principles of martial arts and form stances for different martial arts. The dojo itself is shaped like a leaf with a roof of living vines and wooden planks supported on ornately carved wooden pillars. A receiving room, tea room, and then large central training room are surrounded by smaller rooms for students and individual training. At the stem of the leaf a path is carved down into the stone beneath the dojo. Following the stairs down a large cave opens. Stone pillars stretching up from the floor circle the room around a flat central sparing floor. Here the dragon blooded may test themselves without endangering the dojo above.
Completion would be having built the dojo and found some students. Future improvement would be to find additional teachers and students and establish a reputation for the school.
The Library of Flowing Wisdom
A library of martial arts knowledge. Styles ascribed into scrolls by Argis or collected from around creation.
Definitely a further in the future project, but the aim would be to create a repository for the school. Lots of precautions about security should naturally guard such a thing... And of course just learning how to make such scrolls would be a task unto itself.
next up, actually putting together goals for the civil defense force project
xarvh
Malevolent Entertainer
●●●○○ Build the Leaf of Heaven Dojo
How: Argis will import materials from Nexus and Nathir, employ Siham's skilled artisans and recruit among Crossers, Thornians and Swamp People.
●●●○○ The Library of Flowing Wisdom
Result: build a library, next to the Dojo, to train Martial Arts and common Martial Arts Specialties, as well as most Terrestrial styles, all Immaculate styles and up to five non-Immaculate Celestial styles.
How: Non-Immaculate styles are difficult to find, especially the Celestial ones: Argis will mostly buy the scrolls in Nexus or in Great Forks, and hopefully get something from Five Onyx Dreams.
@Feantari: if the above pleases you, feel free to open two threads in the Project forum.
Completion includes the recruitment of 20-100 enthusiastic mortal students.
How: Argis will import materials from Nexus and Nathir, employ Siham's skilled artisans and recruit among Crossers, Thornians and Swamp People.
●●●○○ The Library of Flowing Wisdom
Result: build a library, next to the Dojo, to train Martial Arts and common Martial Arts Specialties, as well as most Terrestrial styles, all Immaculate styles and up to five non-Immaculate Celestial styles.
How: Non-Immaculate styles are difficult to find, especially the Celestial ones: Argis will mostly buy the scrolls in Nexus or in Great Forks, and hopefully get something from Five Onyx Dreams.
@Feantari: if the above pleases you, feel free to open two threads in the Project forum.
CrazyIvan
Two Thousand Club
@Feantari Note Cunning Fangs can likely teach at least the basics of White Reaper.
Feantari
Water Sprite
Shiny 
Arynne
Salmon of Doubt
And Flicker can teach Shadow Hunter Style...in fact, something like this was one of her projects, and she will happily collaborate with Argis on this.
A lot of your recruits may come from Flicker's own soldiers and hunters, as many of them are excellent mundane martial artists due to her teaching.
A lot of your recruits may come from Flicker's own soldiers and hunters, as many of them are excellent mundane martial artists due to her teaching.
Feantari
Water Sprite
Cool cool
Yeah, pretty much all of our forces use martial arts. This place will probably more for trying to open people up to higher enlightenment so we can have mortals with MA charms, etc. Certainly Argis won't stop doing the more millitary scale training of MA since he's got a patron for that.
Yeah, pretty much all of our forces use martial arts. This place will probably more for trying to open people up to higher enlightenment so we can have mortals with MA charms, etc. Certainly Argis won't stop doing the more millitary scale training of MA since he's got a patron for that.
Arynne
Salmon of Doubt
Once Flicker raises her Essence and Charisma, she can permanently enlighten mortals, making them Half-Castes by brevet. Right now, she can enlighten them only temporarily (they can learn supernatural MAs, but they can only use the Charms while she commits Essence to them). As discussed earlier, she won't be able to create a horde of Essence-wielders like Tirana's beastmen (the Charm is quite costly) but a small core of mortal heroes.
If Argis raises the subject with Flicker, I'm pretty sure she can help him find 20+ people who are eager to build on their knowledge of martial arts. She knows plenty. The trick will be finding people who aren't already busy as hell. Most of her advanced students are senior officers in Cross's army and members of the Hunting Lodge -- between drilling the troops and ranging increasingly further afield in search of food for their hungry people, they don't have a lot of free time. On the other hand, there are 100 of them at this point. Maybe something could be worked out?
If Argis raises the subject with Flicker, I'm pretty sure she can help him find 20+ people who are eager to build on their knowledge of martial arts. She knows plenty. The trick will be finding people who aren't already busy as hell. Most of her advanced students are senior officers in Cross's army and members of the Hunting Lodge -- between drilling the troops and ranging increasingly further afield in search of food for their hungry people, they don't have a lot of free time. On the other hand, there are 100 of them at this point. Maybe something could be worked out?
cyl
Creepy smile
As soon as we rebuild Mirunda and get a decent supply line, we can turn the Cross into a fortress of enlightenment and badassery dedicated to creating the wisest and more powerful warriors the world has ever seen (shielding Big K from her ennemies).
Sadly Tirana's beastmen will still eat our guys for breakfast with their impeccable breeding program !
Sadly Tirana's beastmen will still eat our guys for breakfast with their impeccable breeding program !
Midboss
Two Thousand Club
Project Thorns
Why: These abyssals are really getting on our nerves. Time we ensured we had a couple less psychos in the neighborhood.
How:
Gather the best minds of Cross in the Manse to work in the genesis lab and develop a way of weaponizing the fungus by researching the following points:
- Devise a way to reliably transport the fungus and store it.
- Devise a delivery method. (suitcase nuke ? ICBM ? Catapult ? Air dropped ?)
There will also be strategic discussions for the military side of it.
My idea is to have the weapon ready and then announce the existence and use of the weapon in a huge diplomatic event involving all the threshold powers.... 1 minutes before the explosion. Not sure yet which target would be the most symbolic, but we must make it impressive. The message is: "Any other volunteers ?"
Results expected:
One destroyed shadowland and a lot of very scared deathlords and deathknights.
My other project, which is far more long term, is to boost our military tech to a point where Tyrana's beastmen's abilities don't matter in the slightest. I plan for the exalted equivalant of artillery being the great equalizer.
Why: These abyssals are really getting on our nerves. Time we ensured we had a couple less psychos in the neighborhood.
How:
Gather the best minds of Cross in the Manse to work in the genesis lab and develop a way of weaponizing the fungus by researching the following points:
- Devise a way to reliably transport the fungus and store it.
- Devise a delivery method. (suitcase nuke ? ICBM ? Catapult ? Air dropped ?)
There will also be strategic discussions for the military side of it.
My idea is to have the weapon ready and then announce the existence and use of the weapon in a huge diplomatic event involving all the threshold powers.... 1 minutes before the explosion. Not sure yet which target would be the most symbolic, but we must make it impressive. The message is: "Any other volunteers ?"
Results expected:
One destroyed shadowland and a lot of very scared deathlords and deathknights.
My other project, which is far more long term, is to boost our military tech to a point where Tyrana's beastmen's abilities don't matter in the slightest. I plan for the exalted equivalant of artillery being the great equalizer.
cyl
Creepy smile
I'd advise against greater display. A simple smaller demonstration of its efficiency is more than enough.
"We have it... your move."
"We have it... your move."
Feantari
Water Sprite
so, aside from how it would take all kinds of work and we'd have to be way sneaker than we can be... why not just attack all of the known shadowlands at the same time? /crazymode
/crazymode
xarvh
Malevolent Entertainer
●○○○○ Restore the Library's Magitech Lab to full functionality
Provide a small magitech workshop.
●●●○○ Restore the Library's Genesis Lab to partial functionality
Provide advanced diagnostic and research tools, small culture vats, up to ●●●○○ constructs.
●○○○○ Project Thorns
Develop a suitable support for cultivation, containment and protection of the Bloom, from which is can spread and colonize.
It seems possible to grow the Bloom on attuned Soulsteel.
Right now Project Thorns does not include a delivery method, once you decide we can review the cost.
If you are ok with the above, feel free to create new threads in Wonders of the Empire.
Provide a small magitech workshop.
●●●○○ Restore the Library's Genesis Lab to partial functionality
Provide advanced diagnostic and research tools, small culture vats, up to ●●●○○ constructs.
●○○○○ Project Thorns
Develop a suitable support for cultivation, containment and protection of the Bloom, from which is can spread and colonize.
It seems possible to grow the Bloom on attuned Soulsteel.
Right now Project Thorns does not include a delivery method, once you decide we can review the cost.
If you are ok with the above, feel free to create new threads in Wonders of the Empire.
CrazyIvan
Two Thousand Club
Proposed Projects:
Library of Falling Leaves: A manse built on the site of the demesne Fangs has already paid for. Appearance will be a combination of the open-air teahouse from Hero:
and a forest (Trees for the supporting pillars, the ground is packed dirt, etc. And because its Fangs, there's something hidden inside it. Various etchings, placement of pillars etc. encode spells, musings on Creation, etc. depending on where you stand.
Spear of Grounding: This is the big one. Cunning Fangs needs a proper "Sorcery Artifact", and its also going to work as a substitute to keep her sane/grounded when she goes and does something really, really stupid. She was going to use Walker for this purpose but well - Walker is dead.
The Spear of Grounding is a Moonsilver Dire Lance with two additional properties:
- It can hold up to 2 Celestial or Terrestrial level spells that require no more than 5 minutes to cast. The mana and willpower requirements for these spells must be paid ahead of time and the spells imbued within the Spear placed there in advance. Releasing a spell is a miscellaneous action costing 1 Willpower for Terrestrial Spells, 2 Willpower for Celestial Spells.
- A small vial of Heart's Blood from a Lunar Exalt rests within the Spear. A Lunar attuned to the Spear may use this Blood to assume one of the donor's true forms, as they were at the time the blood was placed in the vial, as if they had learned these forms through a Knack. This immediately cures the Lunar of any shaping attacks or other effects that alter their form (for Casteless Lunars) or mental derangements, unnatural compulsions or other mental conditions (for tattooed Lunars). Doing so consumes the blood in the vial, which may be replenished in a full day ritual by any Lunar with the Life of the Hummingbird knack - and the willpower to rend open their own heart.
Library of Falling Leaves: A manse built on the site of the demesne Fangs has already paid for. Appearance will be a combination of the open-air teahouse from Hero:
and a forest (Trees for the supporting pillars, the ground is packed dirt, etc. And because its Fangs, there's something hidden inside it. Various etchings, placement of pillars etc. encode spells, musings on Creation, etc. depending on where you stand.
Spear of Grounding: This is the big one. Cunning Fangs needs a proper "Sorcery Artifact", and its also going to work as a substitute to keep her sane/grounded when she goes and does something really, really stupid. She was going to use Walker for this purpose but well - Walker is dead.
The Spear of Grounding is a Moonsilver Dire Lance with two additional properties:
- It can hold up to 2 Celestial or Terrestrial level spells that require no more than 5 minutes to cast. The mana and willpower requirements for these spells must be paid ahead of time and the spells imbued within the Spear placed there in advance. Releasing a spell is a miscellaneous action costing 1 Willpower for Terrestrial Spells, 2 Willpower for Celestial Spells.
- A small vial of Heart's Blood from a Lunar Exalt rests within the Spear. A Lunar attuned to the Spear may use this Blood to assume one of the donor's true forms, as they were at the time the blood was placed in the vial, as if they had learned these forms through a Knack. This immediately cures the Lunar of any shaping attacks or other effects that alter their form (for Casteless Lunars) or mental derangements, unnatural compulsions or other mental conditions (for tattooed Lunars). Doing so consumes the blood in the vial, which may be replenished in a full day ritual by any Lunar with the Life of the Hummingbird knack - and the willpower to rend open their own heart.
xarvh
Malevolent Entertainer
"Library of falling leaves" sounds like an interpolation of Argis' projects.
But depending how do you want to shape the manse and its power, the cost may vary
Besides the Moonsilver, does Fangs have the Craft and the facilities necessary for that?
It seems that the vial power is totally incidental to the spear.
WTF does it mean that they have to rend open their heart?
But depending how do you want to shape the manse and its power, the cost may vary
Besides the Moonsilver, does Fangs have the Craft and the facilities necessary for that?
It seems that the vial power is totally incidental to the spear.
WTF does it mean that they have to rend open their heart?
CrazyIvan
Two Thousand Club
The Library is something I've been musing about for awhile - I've probably had the points spent on that demesne for the majority of the game at this point. I'd like to do something with it, or drop it, one of the two.
Besides the Moonsilver, Fangs can find the Craft and facilities necessary for it, between Siham, Nortis' crafter if he goes that way, and spending time doing it. The vial power isn't incidental to the spear - not given Cunning Fangs is making it. Trust me.
As for the heart rending part - where do you thing "Heart's Blood" comes from
Besides the Moonsilver, Fangs can find the Craft and facilities necessary for it, between Siham, Nortis' crafter if he goes that way, and spending time doing it. The vial power isn't incidental to the spear - not given Cunning Fangs is making it. Trust me.
As for the heart rending part - where do you thing "Heart's Blood" comes from
xarvh
Malevolent Entertainer
If you don't change the name of the Library I will have a brain stroke trying to make sense of this game.
I have no doubt that you have specific plans for all those powers, and that your wording is such that to conceal them from me, but I still think that the powers have, fluff-wise, nothing to do with each other.
Why don't you just go after two different artefacts?
Regarding the heart thingy, describing the edge case where rends his own heart is only confusing, since most of the times said heart will be rent against said Lunar will.
A perforation of the wall of a mammal's heart is lethal in the majority of the cases, and AFAIK is no specified requirement for Life of the Hummingbird.
I have no doubt that you have specific plans for all those powers, and that your wording is such that to conceal them from me, but I still think that the powers have, fluff-wise, nothing to do with each other.
Why don't you just go after two different artefacts?
Regarding the heart thingy, describing the edge case where rends his own heart is only confusing, since most of the times said heart will be rent against said Lunar will.
A perforation of the wall of a mammal's heart is lethal in the majority of the cases, and AFAIK is no specified requirement for Life of the Hummingbird.