Dragon's Revenge

Cool, and thanks for understanding.


Anyway, just a head's up in case there was some confusion about this: Sil'eph is in fact stronger than Atlus. Whether he used his full potential against her or not in that little sparring match, he's definitely weaker than she is thanks to her Dragon blood. The same can be said of Stanas, as he too is a Dragon and will be inherently more physically powerful than any of the human characters even while in human form.


So Atlus's attempt at intimidation didn't work, but that'll be made clear in my next post. Lol.
 
But Atlus can kill dragons yes? I mean I'm saying Altus is not that weak but yeah I agree dragons are stronger. I just want to know if Altus can still kill dragons no matter how hard he tries?
 
If they're in Dragon form, not a chance. Atlus's only chance, and indeed the only chance any human has of actually killing a Dragon short of using incredibly powerful magic, is when they're in human form. Magic is the only way humans can effectively fight back against Dragons when they're transformed, and as mentioned just a moment ago, it must be very powerful magic to do so.


Take Sil'eph Niir for example. She's over 360' long from nose to tail when transformed with a 245' wingspan. At that size, she's simply too big to be taken on conventionally and magic must be employed to bring her down unless there's another Dragon fighting against her who could accomplish the task.


Humans believe history says that the Dragons were hunted to extinction, but the fact is (Spoilers ahead in the next few sentences!!! You've been warned!!!) that they weren't. The Dragons simply chose to leave because they were tired of the human race pestering them. Humans were never a serious threat to Dragons as a species. A horde of humans wielding powerful magic and heavy duty weapons like ballistae and catapults were dangerous to one Dragon, maybe two at a time. But as a whole the Dragons never feared the human race.


Atlus, as a human with only an "average muscular build," has absolutely zero chance of killing a transformed Dragon even with his crossbow. The vast majority of them are simply too big for such a weapon to pierce their hide. When they're in human form, again the right circumstances must be in place. If he can catch one off guard with his crossbow and they can't stop the bolt in time, then yes, he could potentially kill them. If he manages to sneak up on one and attack them from behind with a dagger or something, then yes, he could kill one. However, if he takes on a Dragon in their human form head on when their full attention is on him, his chances of killing them drop drastically. With only an "average muscular build" his chances of physically dominating a Dragon, even in human form, are pretty much zero.


Pound for pound a Dragon in human form is approximately three stronger than a human of equivalent size. Both Sil'eph and Stanas are bigger than Atlus, making their relative strength to him even greater.


For those who are curious and may have misinterpreted the RP's purpose, this isn't a Dragon Slayer RP so whether or not you can kill a Dragon shouldn't be the issue. It's an adventure in which we're trying to help the Dragons regain their transformed state as a species, and when they do all hell is going to break loose. The primary issue is going to be survival, not who's stronger than who though the Dragons Sil'eph and Stanas are going to be inherently stronger than their human companions.
 
Please don't take the "average muscular build" too literally. Altus has a build much like the strongest warrior there is,but,his weight is lessened due to his stealth and weight. He can easily bring down a man to the ground. And,I have a plan for Altus. Since he doesn't know that Slifer is a dragon,he might panic and try to kill her.


I know dragons have very tough hides but of course,there must be a weak spot. It's okay not to kill the dragon fully,stunning the dragon would good for Altus. He's a sharp shooter and has a skill very similar to dragons,that is the Eagle Eye. He can slow time and mark his targets carefully,and because of his intellect, he can calculate his bolt's air drop,distance,velocity,etc. so he can have a perfect shot. At least shooting a dragon's eye would be nice.
 
Tread cautiously Prox, you're treading on some thin ice here and it seems to me that you're digging for a way to put yourself in a position of power over the other characters, namely the Dragons, when I've made it very clear that the RP's construction says that it's not happening. There's a word for that: God-Modding. So be careful.


From the beginning, I made it clear that the Dragons would be stronger than the human characters, and you've grossly overestimated Atlus's physical capabilities. Also, you're arguing the logistics of all of this with someone who's trained in martial arts for over fifteen years and studied the human body and how it functions quite intensely. I know where human limitations are when size, weight, and muscle mass are factors Prox, and arguing with me further about this is going to be a losing battle for you.


Also Prox, I went back to read through your profile and saw nothing about a "skill very similar to Dragons," let alone this "Eagle Eye" that you're talking about. A normal human being slowing time and calculating such factors as air drop, distance, and velocity while calculating it all in their mind like a machine is God-Modding, and it's not how the human brain works Prox. I'm afraid that you just wasted your breath trying to give your character an ability that I never approved of and that breaks a simple rule of the RP. As a human, he's bound to real human limitations. There will be no "Eagle Eye" from Atlus, especially when the time period of the RP doesn't yet make use of concepts like "air drop" or how to calculate distance and velocity into something so simple as a crossbow. You're bringing modern concepts and mechanical formulas into a medieval RP, and that doesn't work. (more on this in a few minutes)


Atlus can't beat a Dragon under head to head circumstances in either form. When a Dragon transforms, there are few weaknesses save for the few soft spots that exist such as the eyeball, the ear, or possibly inside the mouth. But outside of those soft spots, all Dragons in this RP have rugged hard scales and bodies that will repel all manner of smaller projectile weaponry such as bow and arrow, crossbow, weak magic spells, throwing knives, darts, etc. The largest projectiles like Ballistae, which are large enough to overcome the durability of their scales, are capable of bringing Dragons down when used right. Atlus and his crossbow would not be able to realistically do anything against a Dragon when it's transformed. His only chance is to kill them while in human form via an ambush.


Something else that disturbs me is that I reread your profile and I seem to have previously overlooked a particular sentence that also has me concerned about your overestimation of Atlus's abilities. I blame myself for missing this information: you mention that Atlus took down "30 high ranked soldiers in the front lines in 1 minute on his own." Yeah, I don't think so. The idea that strength increases during rage is a complete myth Prox, and the body doesn't work like that. Adrenaline can be released during anger, fear, shock, despair, or almost any other mental situation where stress becomes a factor. The idea that anger is the soul trigger of the supposed increase in power is entirely untrue and even under the influence of adrenaline the human body is incapable of such tremendous feats of strength.


Atlus would not be able to take 30 "high ranked" soldiers that quickly, let alone on his own. Even the Dragons couldn't do that unless they were in their transformed state and didn't have to worry about Ballistae. Even the idea that one human could kill 30 high ranked soldiers who know what they're doing and have survived to become high ranking soldiers in all of 2 seconds each over the course of one minute is pure bullshit. That too, is an example of God-Modding when the human limitations were made abundantly clear before the RP began. Again, I blame myself entirely for missing that piece of information from your profile previously and not mentioning it before.


So Prox, we have a bit of an issue now that I'd like to have resolved as soon as possible. You have deliberately broken one of the key rules regarding having a human character, and as such (as well as the other offenses thus far) I'm on the fence as to whether I should kick you from the RP or not.


"There will be no special skills, abilities, or anything of the sort that human characters will have that will 'set them above' the competition. You're human, plain and simple."





That rule was written above the character profile code box for everyone to read since the RP was first opened to character applications, yet by talking about this "Eagle Eye" you have deliberately broken that rule which has me concerned for the other players. If you're willing to break that simple rule, what other rules will you break in your quest to be on equal ground with a Dragon and above the other human characters? Atlus is human, plain and simple. He'll never be an equal to a Dragon, and trying to power play him to be stronger or in a better position than the other humans who are abiding by the rules is also a problem.


So Prox, what do you want to do? Do you want to leave, or do you want to stay?
 
I do agree that I was God Modding. I know I was pushing my char to hard and I expected this to happen. The reason behind it is because I want my character to prove useful during their journey. Surely,their must be some way that I can improve my character's abilities like training. But I don't mean to kill a dragon. So this: If you let me find a way to train and prove myself useful...I'm in...If I will remain like a simple human that can barely even kill a wolf...I'm out...
 
You don't need to worry about the wolf. That's fair game for you.


So long as we have an understanding the your character doesn't measure up to the Dragons on a physical level, then we're good. Your character will have plenty of uses throughout the RP as we progress. His pickpocketing, gambling, and his ability to persuade people will go a long way towards getting himself and others the Fil they need to buy new weapons and armor as we progress since they won't have any methods of acquiring any unless they put the journey on hold to take up a job for a while. Atlus's tactical mind will go a long way as well. Sil'eph is a Dragon, but she's not a tactician. She'll need his advice from time to time as well as his skills of Fil acquisition.


On the physical side, Atlus can take on anything that a human would be able to bring down either through hunting, face to face combat, etc,. He can take on other humans no problem as well.


Is that acceptable?
 
That is exactly the thing I wanted to hear...looks like I'm back in the game..


Just one last question: Will dragons sense (in human form) trouble or when something is about to attack? Because my char is an expert in stealth and you said I can only kill a dragon via ambush.


And...SPOILER AHEAD...Since Altus loves Fil,will someone pay him if he kills or cages a dragon?
 
Glad to hear it.


No, Dragons cannot sense trouble or when someone is attacking them. They can sense other Dragons, whether they're in human or Dragon form, but they can't sense imminent danger so ambushes are very possible. If he can prove that he's caught and/or killed a Dragon, then yes, he'd be paid like a king if he brought the corpse to the right person. However, he has to prove that it's a Dragon. When they're in human form, it's impossible to tell the difference unless you already know what you're looking for. So if he wants to cage a Dragon that's in human form, he's going to have to be mighty convincing with whomever his potential client is.
 
Luckily,he's an expert in Speechcraft...


So...are you working on the post cause Im waiting for Slifer's move...
 
I was waiting for the others to start catching up, but I think I've fallen a bit behind myself. I have been swamped with nearly 10 RP's at the moment across three different websites, so keeping track is difficult. I'll work on a post now.
 
Lol.


I am a veteran, Killgrew.


I've been role-playing since I was about nine years old (so going on fifteen years now). Running ten RP's is nothing new to me nor do I consider it difficult, but tying it together with college work is where it gets difficult. But I think I'm doing alright considering.
 
Its really impressive, considering the depth and length of your posts o__o I shall watch you in awe.
 
Killigrew said:
Its really impressive, considering the depth and length of your posts o__o I shall watch you in awe.
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You give me too much credit, but thank you.
 
^Aw, nah. Its just the right amount.


Haha I think Fleur may end up meeting you both sooner than you might think ;)
 
Question! Do you have a specific climate in mind for each nation, or is geography open to interpretation?
 
Geography is being worked on, but remains incomplete. I hope to have a solid definition of each nation done by the middle of the upcoming week. I'd been meaning to get to it, but 10 Rp's to oversee and college work have kept me from finishing.


At the moment, Gilfaryl has a humid, mid latitude type climate with warm dry Spring and Summer seasons and cold, wet Fall and Winter seasons. Right now, we're in late Spring and approaching Summer, so it's dry and sunny most of the time.
 
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