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[Kyero]

[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]To be honest, I'm confused now as the natural amplification of the power was all that happened. I was going to do the emotional spikes for Dicchio, but decided against it as I was at a loss for what to do. Although the move did about 66,000 total, Dicchio was still at 1112, with no spike in his power level itself.

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As I mentioned before there's little point saying your attacks did any number's worth of damage. It's easiest to simply let your character's power level do the talking for you.


Let's say Dicchio's power level is 8,000 and he's attacking a horde of enemies with power levels of only 1,000. We know that there's nothing they can do to save themselves. They're dead. Whether there's 100 or 100,000 enemies he's attacking makes no difference as Dicchio's power level of 8,000 speaks for itself. You don't have to say that his attack is doing 7,000 points of damage to each enemy and therefore is doing "700,000 or 70,000,000 total points of damage."


Does that make sense?


Your power level is not an HP bar to deduct one power from another. When Dicchio's using a power level of 8,000 and attacking an enemy with a power level of 1,000 he's not doing 7,000 points of damage. He's just killing them. It's that simple. The difference ultimately means nothing nor is it necessary to calculate or quantify it.


To make the difference clear, allow me to explain it like this...


Ki attacks are not their own identities nor do they have their own power levels. Ki attacks are an outward projection of their user's current power level.


If one of your signature attacks normally amplifies your power level by 3x your base amount, it doesn't mean that your power level is still at base and the attack's power level is now 3x your own power. It means that the attack brought you up to 3x your previous level for the duration of the attack.


When you undergo a spike of power due to an emotional outburst, your power is already naturally amplifying itself by 3-6x its normal amount. Because of this and because your character's body is already putting out more power than it's supposed to, the brain and body now believe they're already primed for an attack. That means that any normal method of amplifying your attack is negated.

 

[Webs Elk]

As I mentioned before there's little point saying your attacks did any number's worth of damage. It's easiest to simply let your character's power level do the talking for you.
Let's say Dicchio's power level is 8,000 and he's attacking a horde of enemies with power levels of only 1,000. We know that there's nothing they can do to save themselves. They're dead. Whether there's 100 or 100,000 enemies he's attacking makes no difference as Dicchio's power level of 8,000 speaks for itself. You don't have to say that his attack is doing 7,000 points of damage to each enemy and therefore is doing "700,000 or 70,000,000 total points of damage."


Does that make sense?


Your power level is not an HP bar to deduct one power from another. When Dicchio's using a power level of 8,000 and attacking an enemy with a power level of 1,000 he's not doing 7,000 points of damage. He's just killing them. It's that simple. The difference ultimately means nothing nor is it necessary to calculate or quantify it.


To make the difference clear, allow me to explain it like this...


Ki attacks are not their own identities nor do they have their own power levels. Ki attacks are an outward projection of their user's current power level.


If one of your signature attacks normally amplifies your power level by 3x your base amount, it doesn't mean that your power level is still at base and the attack's power level is now 3x your own power. It means that the attack brought you up to 3x your previous level for the duration of the attack.


When you undergo a spike of power due to an emotional outburst, your power is already naturally amplifying itself by 3-6x its normal amount. Because of this and because your character's body is already putting out more power than it's supposed to, the brain and body now believe they're already primed for an attack. That means that any normal method of amplifying your attack is negated.

Okay, I get what you mean, so in reality, Dicchio's attack amplified his power level to 66000 and therefore whether it was one weak enemy or multiple stronger enemies, if there power level was low enough for them to die against someone with a Power Level at 66000's attack, they would die.

 

[Kyero]

[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]Okay, I get what you mean, so in reality, Dicchio's attack amplified his power level to 66000 and therefore whether it was one weak enemy or multiple stronger enemies, if there power level was low enough for them to die against someone with a Power Level at 66000's attack, they would die.

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Yes. But a power level of 66,000 is WAY too high for Dicchio if his power was 1,112. As mentioned before his power would, at max, spike to around 6,600. But that's still more than enough power to kill a bunch of enemies who are at or below the 4,500 average.

 

[Webs Elk]

Yes. But a power level of 66,000 is WAY too high for Dicchio if his power was 1,112. As mentioned before his power would, at max, spike to around 6,600. But that's still more than enough power to kill a bunch of enemies who are at or below the 4,500 average.

Okay, so what should I do for the calculations then if Dicchio's power level shouldn't be able to spike up to where the calculations put Dicchio

 

[Kyero]

[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]Okay, so what should I do for the calculations then if Dicchio's power level shouldn't be able to spike up to where the calculations put Dicchio

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All you need to do is make a slight edit. Go back and take out the 66,000 points of damage bit and replace it with Dicchio's power spiking to 6,600 and unleashing all of it on as many enemies as he can. That simple change would more than suffice.

 

[Webs Elk]

All you need to do is make a slight edit. Go back and take out the 66,000 points of damage bit and replace it with Dicchio's power spiking to 6,600 and unleashing all of it on as many enemies as he can. That simple change would more than suffice.

So basically, whether it's because of an attack or if it's because of an emotional spike, there's only a certain amplification the body can undergo, if I'm correct. I'm guessing because of the strain placed on the body.


Also, I revised my original calculations of


((#ofhits*.5*PL) + (#ofhits*2.5*PL))


and changed it to


(((#ofhits * .5 * PL) + (#ofhits * 2.5 * PL))) / (#ofhits / 2), which made it equal to 6672.


Is that edited enough.

 

[Genon]

@Kyero


@Anime King Kaleb


So remember what I was saying IC about Xol being able to fix insanity he induced with enough time? The way his mental control works is by inducing a physical or chemical change in the enemy brain. Logically, while medicine isn't his specialty, he should theoretically be able to fix the brain damage that Dicchio and Raze suffered. Of course, there could very well be complications, since it is much easier to destroy something than to fix it, but I just wanted to know if Xol could even attempt to fix the brain damage.


Alternatively, Karas and Raze could get to work on cybernetics to help fix their issues. What do you think?

 

[Kyero]

[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]So basically, whether it's because of an attack or if it's because of an emotional spike, there's only a certain amplification the body can undergo, if I'm correct. I'm guessing because of the strain placed on the body.
Also, I revised my original calculations of


((#ofhits*.5*PL) + (#ofhits*2.5*PL))


and changed it to


(((#ofhits * .5 * PL) + (#ofhits * 2.5 * PL))) / (#ofhits / 2), which made it equal to 6672.


Is that edited enough.

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Yes, that's correct. The body can only handle so much energy at one time.

 

[Kyero]

@Kyero
@Anime King Kaleb


So remember what I was saying IC about Xol being able to fix insanity he induced with enough time? The way his mental control works is by inducing a physical or chemical change in the enemy brain. Logically, while medicine isn't his specialty, he should theoretically be able to fix the brain damage that Dicchio and Raze suffered. Of course, there could very well be complications, since it is much easier to destroy something than to fix it, but I just wanted to know if Xol could even attempt to fix the brain damage.


Alternatively, Karas and Raze could get to work on cybernetics to help fix their issues. What do you think?

You're right, theoretically. If he can use his skills to go inside and carefully manipulate their damaged nerves into proper alignment and restore electric flow, then he can 'fix' them just fine. Normally it's impossible to repair a damaged nervous system, but since this is fantasy we can bend the rules a bit.

 

[Webs Elk]

@Kyero
@Anime King Kaleb


So remember what I was saying IC about Xol being able to fix insanity he induced with enough time? The way his mental control works is by inducing a physical or chemical change in the enemy brain. Logically, while medicine isn't his specialty, he should theoretically be able to fix the brain damage that Dicchio and Raze suffered. Of course, there could very well be complications, since it is much easier to destroy something than to fix it, but I just wanted to know if Xol could even attempt to fix the brain damage.


Alternatively, Karas and Raze could get to work on cybernetics to help fix their issues. What do you think?

Sounds like a good idea. As long as they don't die.


EDIT


Just an afterthought. If they were to use cybernetics, if it's what I think it is, wouldn't they technically be cyborgs? Of course, I may be confusing cybernetics with something different. I'm till okay with the plan but just wondering more about it.

 

[Genon]

[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]Sounds like a good idea. As long as they don't die.

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Keep in mind, we could also have it so that once Raze recovers he and Karas can make cybernetics to fix their problems. Karas has actually dealt with brain-machine interfaces before in his backstory. His robotic arm actually contains a powerful computer inside, that connects to his brain via an extension of the arm that interfaces with the spinal cord. This actually allows him to convert thoughts into programmed instructions, theoretically enabling him to remotely control and/or hack anything he can connect the arm to or that it can wirelessly communicate with. It's largely how he managed to program the robots in such a short amount of time. By connecting the arm to a computer with a Saiyan Empire DEF (Data Exchange Format) port, he can use a computer much faster than a pure organic.


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Anyway, the point is that Karas is no stranger to cybernetics, and with the help of an actual doctor like Raze, creating cybernetic brain implants should be child's play for them. Or we could have Xol attempt to fix it while they're unconscious, your choice.

 

[Webs Elk]

How about taking both paths. Xol can fix Dicchio while Raze gets the computer brain.

 

[Genon]

[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]How about taking both paths. Xol can fix Dicchio while Raze gets the computer brain.

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Well, that means that Raze will have to be operating on himself somehow. Attaching a cybernetic arm on top of an already-treated stump that previously had a fully-working (if crappy) prosthetic already attached to it is one thing. Slicing open a skull and performing actual brain surgery is another. Karas was able to attach a direct connection to his own spinal cord, but he probably had a machine do it for him, knowing him.

 

[Kyero]

@Genon @Denezen @Anime King Kaleb - I made an edit to my post to account for a three week time skip to give everyone time to recover and train to increase their power.


Have at it!

 

[Kyero]

@Genon @Denezen @Anime King Kaleb


You guys doing okay? You've all been awfully quiet this last week.

 

[Genon]

@Genon @Denezen @Anime King Kaleb
You guys doing okay? You've all been awfully quiet this last week.

Sorry, I got a bit bored with this temporarily. I'll get back to it at some point.

 

[Kyero]

Sorry, I got a bit bored with this temporarily. I'll get back to it at some point.

It would have been nice to know this earlier Genon. I get that people get bored with RP's, but it's always better to tell the GM about it instead of keeping it to yourself and disappearing. Others involved who are waiting on you may get bored waiting and drop as well and that's an RP killer.

 

[Genon]

It would have been nice to know this earlier Genon. I get that people get bored with RP's, but it's always better to tell the GM about it instead of keeping it to yourself and disappearing. Others involved who are waiting on you may get bored waiting and drop as well and that's an RP killer.

Ah...well...I'm really sorry. Please forgive me.





*hides in corner*

 

[Kyero]

Ah...well...I'm really sorry. Please forgive me.



*hides in corner*

Hiding in a corner isn't necessary.


Just remember RP Rule #5: Be Vocal. Informing the GM of a fading interest in the current RP is part of being vocal and part of your responsibility as a role-player. It's also a general courtesy to others involved.


If you're bored with the RP then I don't mind if you take a break and see if your interest isn't sparked at a later time once you've had some time away. That being the case I'll drag Karas along for the ride in your absence, but I cannot in good conscience take over writing for him. His mannerisms and thought processes are not my area so I'll have to drag him along in a general sense and mention him in passing most of the time. I'll admit that the things he talks about and the things he does in his spare time are beyond my understanding.


If that's acceptable to you then you may take as much time as you need away from the RP. If you find that you lose interest completely and don't wish to return after a time then please come back and let me know. If you regain interest then you're free to resume posting for Karas whenever you find the time and inspiration to do so.

 

[Genon]

Hiding in a corner isn't necessary.
Just remember RP Rule #5: Be Vocal. Informing the GM of a fading interest in the current RP is part of being vocal and part of your responsibility as a role-player. It's also a general courtesy to others involved.


If you're bored with the RP then I don't mind if you take a break and see if your interest isn't sparked at a later time once you've had some time away. That being the case I'll drag Karas along for the ride in your absence, but I cannot in good conscience take over writing for him. His mannerisms and thought processes are not my area so I'll have to drag him along in a general sense and mention him in passing most of the time. I'll admit that the things he talks about and the things he does in his spare time are beyond my understanding.


If that's acceptable to you then you may take as much time as you need away from the RP. If you find that you lose interest completely and don't wish to return after a time then please come back and let me know. If you regain interest then you're free to resume posting for Karas whenever you find the time and inspiration to do so.

It was only temporary anyway. I'll probably get to work on a post pretty soon. Problem is, I'm a bit stumped for ideas atm. I'm thinking of having Xol attempt to fix up Dicchio and Raze, but he's not a medical professional so I'm afraid of being forced to make their condition worse to make it believable. Karas has kind of recovered, true, but I'm not sure what to do with him.


Wait. I just realized something as I wrote that. It's been over a month IC. That means @WhyNot, along with the rest of the Saiyans, have an excuse to show up now. We should get on that.


EDIT: Oh, he hasn't been on since January 6. That could pose a problem.

 

[Kyero]

@Denezen @Anime King Kaleb


If you guys are in the same boat as Genon in that you're bored with the RP you're free to take time off a well and I'll drag your characters along for you unless you tell m

It was only temporary anyway. I'll probably get to work on a post pretty soon. Problem is, I'm a bit stumped for ideas atm. I'm thinking of having Xol attempt to fix up Dicchio and Raze, but he's not a medical professional so I'm afraid of being forced to make their condition worse to make it believable. Karas has kind of recovered, true, but I'm not sure what to do with him.
Wait. I just realized something as I wrote that. It's been over a month IC. That means @WhyNot, along with the rest of the Saiyans, have an excuse to show up now. We should get on that.


EDIT: Oh, he hasn't been on since January 6. That could pose a problem.

Indeed it could. If he hasn't been on since then I don't know if we should wait on his character. The other Saiyans who have responded to Karas' messages can show up but waiting on WhyNot may not be a wise decision for the time being. If he gets on and says he wants in then that's great. Otherwise, let's push without him.

 

[Genon]

@Denezen @Anime King Kaleb
If you guys are in the same boat as Genon in that you're bored with the RP you're free to take time off a well and I'll drag your characters along for you unless you tell m


Indeed it could. If he hasn't been on since then I don't know if we should wait on his character. The other Saiyans who have responded to Karas' messages can show up but waiting on WhyNot may not be a wise decision for the time being. If he gets on and says he wants in then that's great. Otherwise, let's push without him.

So my good old friend Daydreaming gave me some other ideas. I'm thinking that Rakton Spec, the man who led the gang that took Karas' arm, is going to show up. You can play him if you want. Pretty much all I have in mind for him so far is that he's a stereotypical Saiyan warrior, and is egotistical and arrogant even for them. He's an Elite, and leads his own Raid Group of like-minded individuals. I can get to work on an NPC sheet if you want, or I could go the PC sheet route if you want more combat details.

 

[Denezen]

Thats not the case, on top of finding a new job and my job being harder than normal for the past month, car broke down and spent all last week searching for a new one. Bad news: Had no time for this, even checking it sorry. Good news: Got a badass new car.


Doing stuff for valentines day today, but will make a post tomorrow as soon as I can.

 

[Genon]

@Kyero


I'm working on a post right now actually.

 

[Webs Elk]

@Kyero


I just got my phone back after leaving it at my friends house about a week ago.

Well, that means that Raze will have to be operating on himself somehow. Attaching a cybernetic arm on top of an already-treated stump that previously had a fully-working (if crappy) prosthetic already attached to it is one thing. Slicing open a skull and performing actual brain surgery is another. Karas was able to attach a direct connection to his own spinal cord, but he probably had a machine do it for him, knowing him.

Well, after giving it some thought, there MUST be some type of Medbot, for situations such as this, where Raze is unable to do stuff. The Medbot, of course, would know everything Raze knows. So I think we should just say that the Medbot and Karas' s combined effort completes the surgery.