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[Webs Elk]

Happy New Year everyone! 2016 ought to be an awesome year! I look forward to the RP's progress!

This is the year we become SUPER SAIYANS Dicchio

 

[Kyero]

[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]

This is the year we become SUPER SAIYANS Dicchio

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We'll see.

 

[Webs Elk]

@Kyero


Rp Related Question


I know that Era is keeping it secret for right now.but are we going to learn how to sense ki in a similar fashion to how we unlocked the New Zenkai

 

[Genon]

Oh, and @Anime King Kaleb, I have a friend over so I may not respond for most of the day. Thanks for putting up your post again though.

 

[Webs Elk]

Oh, and @Anime King Kaleb, I have a friend over so I may not respond for most of the day. Thanks for putting up your post again though.

I know how you feel, I have family over as well and they want us to go somewhere together before they leave town tomorrow.

 

[Kyero]

@Kyero[/URL]
Rp Related Question


I know that Era is keeping it secret for right now.but are we going to learn how to sense ki in a similar fashion to how we unlocked the New Zenkai

She will eventually share her knowledge of this ability and everyone will learn it at their leisure. But for now she's keeping it to herself.

 

[Genon]

@Kyero


Two things I wanted to ask you about. The first is the "Insta-Kit" I was talking about in my post to @Anime King Kaleb. I figured that with the sheer amount of stuff to explore in space, there would be corporate incentives in making colonization easier, especially with crazy threats like the Saiyans and Overlord Inecros running around committing wanton genocide and forcing people to flee their homeworlds to not get slaughtered. So Insta-Kit is a corporation that makes self-building colonization platforms and other valuable things, presumably out of nanobots or something like that. Basically, think of them as IKEA for cities, fortifications, factories, farms, and other structures necessary for emergency exodi. It's taking quite a few pages from the colonies in the Space stage of the game Spore, if you've heard of it. Is this alright?


The other thing I wanted to talk about was revisiting Karas' robot army. It makes sense that Karas wouldn't be able to create another military masterpiece like Tragedy and Comedy for a while, but I do think that Karas would both desire and be able to create basic guards and expendable grunt forces with the Insta-Kit Bastion. Tragedy and Comedy will be quickly outclassed, but I kind of want us to be able to hurl a wall of robotic troops at an enemy to distract them or hold them off. That much dakka would make anyone take notice, even Inecros. Of course, the average robotic guard will have a power level of around maybe 5,000 at best (designing them this way because after Era teaches her skills to our new recruits, they will quickly outpace these guards), but the idea is that they handle basic security, do jobs no-one wants to do, and deal with Inecros' cannon fodder while our more powerful Saiyan warriors go for the objectives.


And here's the justification I have for why these robots can't get stronger: There's a plateau for the destructive power of machines in the DBL universe, based on the space a ki container takes up, as organic cells are the most efficient method of ki storage known. Theoretically, you could pack enough artificial ki into something to rival Inecros or blow up a planet, but it would at least be the size of Metroplex from Transformers, probably a lot bigger. However, I think that creating a superweapon of that size would be an interesting thing to explore when the final fight comes and two armies clash.


What do you think of all of this? Do I have permission for any of these things?

 

[Kyero]

@Kyero
Two things I wanted to ask you about. The first is the "Insta-Kit" I was talking about in my post to @Anime King Kaleb. I figured that with the sheer amount of stuff to explore in space, there would be corporate incentives in making colonization easier, especially with crazy threats like the Saiyans and Overlord Inecros running around committing wanton genocide and forcing people to flee their homeworlds to not get slaughtered. So Insta-Kit is a corporation that makes self-building colonization platforms and other valuable things, presumably out of nanobots or something like that. Basically, think of them as IKEA for cities, fortifications, factories, farms, and other structures necessary for emergency exodi. It's taking quite a few pages from the colonies in the Space stage of the game Spore, if you've heard of it. Is this alright?


The other thing I wanted to talk about was revisiting Karas' robot army. It makes sense that Karas wouldn't be able to create another military masterpiece like Tragedy and Comedy for a while, but I do think that Karas would both desire and be able to create basic guards and expendable grunt forces with the Insta-Kit Bastion. Tragedy and Comedy will be quickly outclassed, but I kind of want us to be able to hurl a wall of robotic troops at an enemy to distract them or hold them off. That much dakka would make anyone take notice, even Inecros. Of course, the average robotic guard will have a power level of around maybe 5,000 at best (designing them this way because after Era teaches her skills to our new recruits, they will quickly outpace these guards), but the idea is that they handle basic security, do jobs no-one wants to do, and deal with Inecros' cannon fodder while our more powerful Saiyan warriors go for the objectives.


And here's the justification I have for why these robots can't get stronger: There's a plateau for the destructive power of machines in the DBL universe, based on the space a ki container takes up, as organic cells are the most efficient method of ki storage known. Theoretically, you could pack enough artificial ki into something to rival Inecros or blow up a planet, but it would at least be the size of Metroplex from Transformers, probably a lot bigger. However, I think that creating a superweapon of that size would be an interesting thing to explore when the final fight comes and two armies clash.


What do you think of all of this? Do I have permission for any of these things?

I can see good reasons to allow all of what you've brought up, actually. So yes, you have my full permission to explore these avenues of creativity.


However, I'd like to point out this one fact to keep in mind about the way I want Ki handled in regards to synthesis.


When it comes to synthesized or otherwise implanted Ki for the robots, there will need to be a very strict limit to how much potential it will be able to put out. While being able to store a power level of 5,000 will be more than possible, the laws of physics demand that whenever energy is transferred from one medium to another there is a loss as some of it is diverted and drawn away. You could argue that they're built to get around this, but the fact is that no matter what there will be a transference from the container to the directed pathways to the air outside the robot so a loss is inevitable no matter how well built they are.


This loss can be minimal, but I want it to definitely play a role in what the robots are rated to handle. If a robot is constructed to handle a power level of around 5,000, then the total Ki output when the Ki leaves their bodies in the form of Ki attacks should be slightly less than that (say around 4,950) due to the loss of transference.


Also because robots don't have true brains, willpower, or determination beyond their programming, and technology has to have a limit at some point, I don't want the robots (Tragedy and Comedy being the exceptions) to be able to concentrate Ki at higher levels. I'll let Tragedy and Comedy get away with it. But the generic guard bots should not be capable of it. This gives Tragedy and Comedy a higher level of importance for the foreseeable future until they become outclassed which will still take some time IC.


Make sense?

 

[Genon]

I can see good reasons to allow all of what you've brought up, actually. So yes, you have my full permission to explore these avenues of creativity.
However, I'd like to point out this one fact to keep in mind about the way I want Ki handled in regards to synthesis.


When it comes to synthesized or otherwise implanted Ki for the robots, there will need to be a very strict limit to how much potential it will be able to put out. While being able to store a power level of 5,000 will be more than possible, the laws of physics demand that whenever energy is transferred from one medium to another there is a loss as some of it is diverted and drawn away. You could argue that they're built to get around this, but the fact is that no matter what there will be a transference from the container to the directed pathways to the air outside the robot so a loss is inevitable no matter how well built they are.


This loss can be minimal, but I want it to definitely play a role in what the robots are rated to handle. If a robot is constructed to handle a power level of around 5,000, then the total Ki output when the Ki leaves their bodies in the form of Ki attacks should be slightly less than that (say around 4,950) due to the loss of transference.


Also because robots don't have true brains, willpower, or determination beyond their programming, and technology has to have a limit at some point, I don't want the robots (Tragedy and Comedy being the exceptions) to be able to concentrate Ki at higher levels. I'll let Tragedy and Comedy get away with it. But the generic guard bots should not be capable of it. This gives Tragedy and Comedy a higher level of importance for the foreseeable future until they become outclassed which will still take some time IC.


Make sense?

It does make a lot of sense. Also, when do we plan on moving forward? I'm waiting on @Anime King Kaleb right now, but can we make a timeskip to when my Insta-Kit arrives and when I start training again? I would be interested in combat at some point, and seeing Inecros' army for the first time.

 

[Kyero]

It does make a lot of sense. Also, when do we plan on moving forward? I'm waiting on @Anime King Kaleb right now, but can we make a timeskip to when my Insta-Kit arrives and when I start training again? I would be interested in combat at some point, and seeing Inecros' army for the first time.

We can skip ahead a bit soon. I will let you guys have a conversation first and when you're finished I'll jump us ahead so that the Insta-Kit arrives and Karas can get back to his training.


We won't see anything from Inecros for a bit as he's still around a month away from arriving at Metahnn, but believe me the destruction of the 17 Saiyan Home Worlds will be... Flashy.


You'll see what I mean when we get that far.

 

[Genon]

@Anime King Kaleb


I'm assuming that Raze and Dicchio know the situation with Inecros and the incoming apocalypse?

 

[Kyero]

@Anime King Kaleb
I'm assuming that Raze and Dicchio know the situation with Inecros and the incoming apocalypse?

No. They will not know. They're going to have to be brought up to speed.

 

[Genon]

No. They will not know. They're going to have to be brought up to speed.

Well Karas just made a massive blunder then. >.>

 

[Kyero]

Well Karas just made a massive blunder then. >.>

Not really. They're going to be a bit confused but otherwise they'll be brought up to speed soon enough. The Commander will have a chat with them.

 

[Genon]

Not really. They're going to be a bit confused but otherwise they'll be brought up to speed soon enough. The Commander will have a chat with them.

Well of course. But Raze will probably have more than a few questions for Karas.

 

[Webs Elk]

So the conversation can advance more, since it's essential that everyone is comfortable with eachother, I had Raze not take in the information about Inecros, although ideally it woould.pop baxk into conversation after a while.

 

[Genon]

@Anime King Kaleb


@Kyero


What is the MSS? I have a feeling Karas would know, but I don't.

 

[Kyero]

@Anime King Kaleb
@Kyero


What is the MSS? I have a feeling Karas would know, but I don't.

Just presume it's the only "good" conjoined school/establishment for medicinal and technical practice. We need not wreck out brains giving everything a name.

 

[Denezen]

*Patiently waits for something to do*


In serious though, life is been a bit hectic so haven't been that proactive with posting, but I am still here and up to date on everything just so everyone knows. Feels like we are tyring to move things along, so haven't really had Itta do anything at this point and seems we might be doing a small time skip, so just assume he is doing busy work or training to get his power level up. He is up for another spar if someone wants.

 

[Webs Elk]

Yeah, MSS is just a backstory item, nothing more than that. The MSS is a society for all saiyan scientist in the medical field.

 

[Genon]

@Kyero


@Anime King Kaleb


Alright, so this timeline looks a bit wonky for me right now. Is this incident with Era and Korvaiis happening during the conversation between Raze and Karas? Or is it happening the morning after? Because if it's the former, it provides a great excuse to end the conversation and begin a timeskip to when the Insta-Kit arrives. In fact, if this is happening the next morning, I can have the trader fly in with his supply runner and literally drop a city on the planet. It won't exactly work like a TV Tropes Colony Drop, but it'll be suitably dramatic-looking. Think "grey goo descending from the sky and rapidly building a city before our eyes."

 

[Genon]

@Kyero


Oh, and assume that Karas, in-between conversations and working on things, is talking to other contacts.

 

[Kyero]

@Kyero
@Anime King Kaleb


Alright, so this timeline looks a bit wonky for me right now. Is this incident with Era and Korvaiis happening during the conversation between Raze and Karas? Or is it happening the morning after? Because if it's the former, it provides a great excuse to end the conversation and begin a timeskip to when the Insta-Kit arrives. In fact, if this is happening the next morning, I can have the trader fly in with his supply runner and literally drop a city on the planet. It won't exactly work like a TV Tropes Colony Drop, but it'll be suitably dramatic-looking. Think "grey goo descending from the sky and rapidly building a city before our eyes."

This happened after your conversation the next day around noon. So you can continue or end the conversation at your leisure.

 

[Webs Elk]

I prefer that we just end the conversation and just imply that they continued talking for the evening until they went their separate ways.

 

[Genon]

[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]I prefer that we just end the conversation and just imply that they continued talking for the evening until they went their separate ways.

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Sure. I can do that. By the way, like my picture? It's a gamma-ray burster.