Fandom Disturbances (Star Wars: The Old Republic RP) OOC

[Darth Bambi]

Will post later this evening.

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

I think the light freighters are over done, they seem like the go to ship for rag-tag teams. I say the 929 is the right ship, but I'm just along for the ride.

 

[Darth Bambi]

Just spent six hours helping with a chemical spill at my job. Sorry I couldn't post like I said I would, but blame the idiot who couldn't follow proper procedure. I'll put something up this evening.

 

[Darth Bambi]

Posted. Into the deep end with all of you.

 

[Chak]

Hmm, so, some interesting realisations as I delve further and further into the combined data of both Legends and 'Di-canon' lore.

First off, the Inquisitor's sabers being able to spin? A perfect idea tbh, as it was shown that Grievous' spinning his sabers often threw Jedi off gaurd. It gave an advantage to the Inquisitor's that perhaps weren't as adept in the force as their Jedi prey may have been. (Though flying with them like a helicopter is still and shall always be fucking stupid.)

Follow that up with the variety of sabers in general, and their differences. Shotos and Guard Shotos(Light Tonfas) that had their shorter blades. Lightclubs and Dual Phases that offered a larger blade or varying short or long blade respectively. Light daggers. Light Foils(Rapiers).

What really got me thinking, though, were the Lightwhips, and the Darksaber. The Dark saber had a rectangular emitter set at an angle, which is what gave the Darksaber it's unique, sword like design. Which means that with the right construction, a lightsaber blade came be properly shaped. The second were the Lightwhips, which made formless 'blades' that allowed it to function as, no duh, a whip.

This made me realise that I just came up with one of the most ridiculous lightsaber ideas, likely on par with the ridiculous lightsaber suit.

A Lightring.

Effectively a ringblade, with an emitter function around the outside of the ring, to allow you to just, light up the outside of the ring and fuck people up.

Just imagine this bitch yeeting a big ass, lightsaber edged ring at you as she hula hoops around the map.


Granted yes, Tutaminis would probably need to be something a wielder would be good at lest they just yeet their own arm off instead.


Edit: Anyone else got any stupid lightsaber ideas now that I've opened the floodgates to formed and formless saber blades?

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

I have a post all lined up, but will wait a day or so before posting to give everyone a chance to reply.

I was not a fan of the spinning blade aspect of their lightsabers, it just didn't seem functionally practical or even really pheasible within the Lore as established so far [Legends and D-Canon], I agree with you on the flying inquisitors though. Dumb. But a lightring (AKA: hula-hoop-of-spinning-death) a very out there idea. And seems just as dangerous to the user, if not more so to the user, then the opponent. But I suppose with Force enhanced reflexes and spatial awareness and years of training it might be survivable.

I've always thought a light-axe would be a good choice.

 

[Darth Bambi]

I have a post all lined up, but will wait a day or so before posting to give everyone a chance to reply.

I was not a fan of the spinning blade aspect of their lightsabers, it just didn't seem functionally practical or even really pheasible within the Lore as established so far [Legends and D-Canon], I agree with you on the flying inquisitors though. Dumb. But a lightring (AKA: hula-hoop-of-spinning-death) a very out there idea. And seems just as dangerous to the user, if not more so to the user, then the opponent. But I suppose with Force enhanced reflexes and spatial awareness and years of training it might be survivable.

I've always thought a light-axe would be a good choice.

No rush.

I can think of few things dumber than the light whip (or more antithetical to the original canon), but the hoola hoop manages it. Literally how? I mean I could sort of see the mechanics of it, but talk about an insanely impractical weapon. You go yeeting at your enemy, hips a-gyratin', and they promptly stick their saber/sword/whatever straight out and stab you before you can even reach them. Or they just shoot you. It's not like you're going to be blocking shots with that thing.

And, yes, helicopter lightsabers are pretty dumb, too. I had to basically justify it as him just raising the spinning blade up out of the way while he force jumped, rather than the weapon itself propelling him.

Light axes... I think that might actually exist, although I can't be arsed to look it up. Either way, not the best choice for a weapon. I mean you're giving up the speed and agility of a sword for the weight and impact of an axe. The problem with that is that a lighsaber blade isn't really enhanced that much by the extra mass. It will shear through just about anything, anyway. In fact you might lose a good bit of effectiveness because the blade's penetration would be stopped by the part giving it mass, unless you were thinking of having that mass be just below the blade. Even then, though, you've still got that speed and maneuverability loss to contend with.

For my own entrants into the stupid weapons category I offer you the light-chucks and the light-chainsaw

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

Didn't think there would be. I just had some time to actually reply and liked where this is headed.

 

[Chak]

Darth Bambi Grim Wraithe Stjerna

Well obviously you wouldn't go hula hooping towards trained duelists, you'd go hula hooping towards the generic mass of soldiers that is legally required to miss every shoot and die one by one is daft or inane matters because it's their god given duty to die in such a way to build up how dangerous a duelist you are before you go fight the BBEG or BBGG.

But yes, the idea has always stood that the usage of a Ringblade is dangerous to it' users. In fact in most games Tira takes a modicum of damage from certain attacks because of the move utilised would feasibly see her hit.

That being said, if you watch many pof the non-hula hoop moves utilised, the truth is that a well seasoned and skilled duelist that trained for long enough could realistically utilise a Lightring with dealy efficiency for a time to come before anyone found a solid means of combating the likely erratic and wild fighting form. Namely cause they'd have to study holovids of the wielder if there were any, and if they wanted to practise they'd have to go have someone /train/ in wielding a Ringblade to begin with, which is likely few and far between.

As long as you were smart enough to build the base with the right metals, you'd have:

• A massive cutting edge to work with.
• Oppurtunites to manipulate the blade in such a way that the momentum could add a lot of force you your blows, something that couldn't be done with simple sabers or near weightless Lightwhip blades.
• Potentially an edged emitter ring to begin with, giving a non-lightsaber bladed around the ring.
• You sabers edge is rounded. Something actively not encountered. The fighting form would be entirely different that one would be used to.
• Imagine a Force User skilled in throwing their weapon learning how to weild a Lightring. Also, same build, smaller sive, build yourself Lightchakrams and do the same thing.

There's a reason the idea comes with the caveat of being skilled in Tutaminis though, because of the erratic and wild style of combat.

So if we ever get bored in the RP and care to spice things up, I can always give Kaedi'ae a lightring XD

Now, a lightaxe.

Nothing in canon about a light axe, but, get yourself a hilt that looks like this;


While it may seem silly, what you'd likely build is a device lined with lightsaber resistant/proof allow, but underneath the lining, the top half would be largely built of a dense and heavily weighted alloy. Now the orange area at the top of the ice axe, right where the metal balde starts, would be where your emmiter focus is, with an emitter channel running on the under side where the ice axe's blade is.

Effectively you'd be building a framed and shaped emitter similar to the darksaber.

The catch here is that the axe, like most axe's, would have to be actively swung, and you'd be losing your function as a standard blade with them. It would, however, be a non-standard blade and fighting style most duelists wouldn't be prepared for, especially if you went into combat without utilising the emitter immediately, letting them think you had a simplistic, lightsaberresistant battle pick.

Advantages would likely be;

• Increased swing momentum, similarly to the Lightring
• Likely improved cutting/hacking efficiency
• The ability to hook and pull lightsaber resistant items, or even lightsabers.
• Likewise to the Lightring, a combat form and style not readily known, and likely to catch people off guard.

Honestly, what I'd do is utilise the Lightaxe with one of four off hand weapons.

1. Lightdagger- Short, subtle, something to deflect or parry an attack while going in for slashes with the Lightaxe.
2. Shoto Saber- Another short blade, though longer than the dagger. Would add piercing versatility, while offering the same as the Lightdagger.
3. Another Lightaxe- Definitely for a far more offensive fighter, but the pairing could be very difficult to fight against if wielded well.
4. Guard-Shoto(Tonfa Saber)- Maybe an odd choice, but its one that offers a secondary, slashing or piercing option, but primarly gives you the unique oppurtunity to make a 'sword and board' style fighter, treating your Guard-Shoto as a shield while utilising your Lightaxe against the opponent.

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

This is what I was thinking of when I said light-axe. And aside from the ability to block/deflect blaster bolts, I feel like this could a much safe weapon to use for non-force sensitive wielder's and provide a certain level of intimidation/aggressive diplomacy for those Jedi/Sith who enjoy combat/physical prowess.
This style of weapon would also be a difficult weapon to duel against due to its non-traditional design.
The haft/hilt is where the weight could be to help with the appropriate balance and mindset on how the weapon should handle.
Now a slight variation on this design could be two (or four) short/shoto blades that cross at their midpoint, allowing for more slashing attacks and the ability to grab/hook other lightsabers or lightsaber resistant materials. You would still lack the ability to block blaster efficiently, but you still could.

 

[Chak]

This is what I was thinking of when I said light-axe. And aside from the ability to block/deflect blaster bolts, I feel like this could a much safe weapon to use for non-force sensitive wielder's and provide a certain level of intimidation/aggressive diplomacy for those Jedi/Sith who enjoy combat/physical prowess.
This style of weapon would also be a difficult weapon to duel against due to its non-traditional design.
The haft/hilt is where the weight could be to help with the appropriate balance and mindset on how the weapon should handle.
Now a slight variation on this design could be two (or four) short/shoto blades that cross at their midpoint, allowing for more slashing attacks and the ability to grab/hook other lightsabers or lightsaber resistant materials. You would still lack the ability to block blaster efficiently, but you still could.

The issue I see with that design, vs the idea of the Ice Axe style hilt, that has the darksaber esque blade that forms downward from the channeler is that the design you posted does the silliest thing you can think of with an axe.

It forces you to hit with precision.

If you hit too high, the lower emitter catches on the target. Hit to low, the upper.

If you're taking an axe into combat, you're not looking for precision outside of at least being precise enough to hit the body of your foe. If I was half decent at photoshop or something I'd modcop the world's shittiest version of a blade onto the Ice Axe Hilt design, but I can't do it on this device.

My other issue with the above design is that now Tutaminis wouldn't be need to block an attack. Nor would lighsaber resistant materials. As long as you knew what you were doing, it would be stupid easy to grab any part of that axe, or to utilise any part of the massive hilt size for a parry, and then continue to fight.

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

I have trained with swords, longswords or what people call "bastard swords" as well with axes and war hammers and shields (I used to work for a medieval arms maker). Precision with any weapon in the battlefield is all about perspective and what your goals are. Also how well protected your opponent is. But with metal blades it's really about beating the other person with a metal stick or poking them with the pointy bit.

Now with the axe, whichever style of lightaxe we go with, even if the blade misses, you're still smacking someone with a metal stick. And the same can be said with a sword, now with a traditional lightsaber you can be even less precise since it's going to cut through almost everything and cause a fight ending wound in most people.

So it would stand to reason, from a certain point of view, that the lightaxe would require a higher level of skill to use. And to the blaster bolt blocking aspect, I think it could work well. If a guard shoto/tonfa or reverse grip lightsaber can deflect then why not an axe.

 

[Chak]

I have trained with swords, longswords or what people call "bastard swords" as well with axes and war hammers and shields (I used to work for a medieval arms maker). Precision with any weapon in the battlefield is all about perspective and what your goals are. Also how well protected your opponent is. But with metal blades it's really about beating the other person with a metal stick or poking them with the pointy bit.

Now with the axe, whichever style of lightaxe we go with, even if the blade misses, you're still smacking someone with a metal stick. And the same can be said with a sword, now with a traditional lightsaber you can be even less precise since it's going to cut through almost everything and cause a fight ending wound in most people.

So it would stand to reason, from a certain point of view, that the lightaxe would require a higher level of skill to use. And to the blaster bolt blocking aspect, I think it could work well. If a guard shoto/tonfa or reverse grip lightsaber can deflect then why not an axe.

Differences in blade length as well as the location of the blade in congruence with the location of your hand versus your holding style.

It sounds complicated, but a guard shoto or reverse grip can still easily be held at the length of your body, and bear in mind lightsaber resistant metals are also blaster bolt resistant too. So arguably not so much deflection, but blocking could still be done with the Lightaxe hilt.

I think ultimately, however, a light axe would still be seen and utilised as a primarily offensive tool. It just makes more sense to use it offensively when there are better defensive tools out there.

Shit, just get a lightsaber resistant shield and there you go haha.

 

[Chak]

Oh, hey, surprised, by the way, that no one asked what had been left in the cargo hold of the 929. It's not really gonna be a big secret. I wanted Kaedi'ae to have a pet and couldn't think of a good way to suddenly introduce one.

So that'll be a thing for later.

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

I like where your head is at with the shield idea.

I agree, a light axe would be a very offensive weapon. Which is probably why it would not be used by a Jedi.

I also think the mechanics of it, are the other reasons why it's not a thing. Just like the light-hula-hoop-of-death.

Both are fun, but not something that would come up in practical use. But if you want to bring in a LHHOD I will happily bring in a LA wielding partner for them. And we will blaze a glorious trail through everything!

 

[Chak]

I like where your head is at with the shield idea.

I agree, a light axe would be a very offensive weapon. Which is probably why it would not be used by a Jedi.

I also think the mechanics of it, are the other reasons why it's not a thing. Just like the light-hula-hoop-of-death.

Both are fun, but not something that would come up in practical use. But if you want to bring in a LHHOD I will happily bring in a LA wielding partner for them. And we will blaze a glorious trail through everything!

Hmm, it can be a pet project that Kaedi'ae can be working on. Not quite finished yet, built on concepts of various Jedi and Stih weapons, as well as the cultural significance of dancing that Twileks have, which is part of what makes them popular dancers. So not quite finished, but getting there. She'd need more crystals for it anyhow, something she can accrue in time.

In the meantime it'd be a bladed hoop like stated earlier.

Perhaps you could have a character that notices her working on her Lightring and questions it, could lead to an in game discourse on weapons that leads to the conceptulisation and building of a Lightaxe

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

I also like the incorporation of the racial/cultural aspects of the character, and not just saying they would use this weapon because they're a dancer.

Having a prototype ring of death, that is a passion project sounds like it could be fun to work into the story. Although if anyone is going to question the wisdom of a LHHOD it would be my Mando. But he would also be the one to use a light axe.

 

[Chak]

"What is the wisdom of utilising a weapon that could potentially sever your own limbs?"

Kaedi'ae proceeds to ignite her current saber, utilise Tutaminis, then grab, hold, and swing her saber by the blade, then turn it off and put the saber back on her belt and keep working on her Lightring XD

Honestly, given that she technically utilises the Force in a wholly physical manner, having a unique weapon and combat style would be a boon to her as well.

 

[Darth Bambi]

Nice post, Grim Wraithe Stjerna . Now we just need Mkirshnikov and we can progress. Hopefully he's not dealing with deployment or something.

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

Thank you Darth Bambi , hopefully he's not dealing with that. Although that's something that I am projected to deal with in the near ish future.

 

[Chak]

Ah yes, deployments. Everyone's favorite thing in the world

 

[Darth Bambi]

Ah yes, deployments. Everyone's favorite thing in the world

Word. The tribulations of the soldier.

I'll give it another day and if he doesn't respond we'll continue without him until he can rejoin.

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

Or sailor.

Who else is going to drink Iceland dry?

I think that's for the best. I know I wouldn't want to hold everyone up if I were unable to reply because military.

 

[Darth Bambi]

Or sailor.

Who else is going to drink Iceland dry?

I think that's for the best. I know I wouldn't want to hold everyone up if I were unable to reply because military.

I was only counting real military people.

 

[Grim Wraithe Stjerna]

Well then...



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