Danganronpa: The Tragedy

Ryik said:
If the hair has dried properly, the dye will not bleed. I mean, it could, but not all dyes. Kyoko's hands were clean, so that basically explains itself.
The purple hair came from the killer? I thought we were over this. It was dyed for its color, and so was the dark blue hair.


I don't know where she's going with this. If Monokumada wrote the letter (As it says he did), why was there a huge struggle, and why was the murder weapon a shard of glass? It can't have been planned.
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Whoops about the purple hair forgot that it was dyed. Sorry about that.


Anyways, if the hair was dried properly then the chance of the murder to be unplanned is slim? and why is there the purple dyed hair, no smug, with no dye bottle found like the blue?


For the letter, maybe we can ask if monokumada was asked to write the letter for someone? or maybe ask if there was more than one person who knew about the makeup?
 
TripTripleTimes said:
Whoops about the purple hair forgot that it was dyed. Sorry about that.
Anyways, if the hair was dried properly then the chance of the murder to be unplanned is slim? and why is there the purple dyed hair, no smug, with no dye bottle found like the blue?


For the letter, maybe we can ask if monokumada was asked to write the letter for someone? or maybe ask if there was more than one person who knew about the makeup?
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Why not? Drying your hair is simply something you do when your hair is wet with dye. It certainly doesn't trump the fact that a glass shard from the broken mirror was the murder weapon. Why would someone plan to do that?


We also simply might not have found all the evidence.


If we asked Monokumada if he was asked to write a letter for someone, and get a "yes", that doesn't really explain a lot. If we get a "no", we're right back where we started. If we ask about the cosmetics, it still doesn't constitute a motive, and judging by how it was probably unplanned, I don't have high hopes for a helpful answer.


The fact that there was a struggle and that a shard of glass was the murder weapon heavily implies it wasn't pre-meditated. The only way it could have been pre-meditated was if Kyoko somehow took the knife from her assailant, but we have people saying she couldn't even rip out their hair, so I find that hard to believe.
 
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OnceDarkness said:
I've got a theory that there are actually two letters, and the second one is in the killer's room. Okay, so the letter is not a motive, but is tied to one, also the only motive is not graduation, maybe something happened in that bathroom, or some previous shit like that
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Oh, just saying, I completely agree with your theory here. The reason we try to proof that the murder is unplanned in the first place is because how it could then imply many other answers, including for this one.


As I said before, Monokumada should be the one who somehow "persuaded" someone to murder, that means Monokumada should be manipulating her victim and her murderer, which means, both the victim and the murderer may receive a letter of some sort from Monokumada. Not to mention the likelyhood for an expected victim and the expected murderer by Monokumada to end up in the restroom room in the same time will be quite slim, very slime actually. Monokumada must be confident that somehow the murderer and the victim will meet at the restroom, and something bad will then happen.


EDIT: So we can basically conclude that both the murderer and the victim received a letter.
 
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I still find it hard to believe that the murder is not planned. The hair has to be washed of after the dye has been applied, then it has to dry. If the hair is not washed and dried, wouldnt the hair feel crummy and the colour will be present on the hair?


For the weapon, maybe the murderer failed to one hit because the victim saw them in the mirror.


Idk, im still unconvinced with the whole unplanned thing. Ill see what unfolds.
 
TripTripleTimes said:
I still find it hard to believe that the murder is not planned. The hair has to be washed of after the dye has been applied, then it has to dry. If the hair is not washed and dried, wouldnt the hair feel crummy and the colour will be present on the hair?
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That may be due to lack of evidence for the time being.

TripTripleTimes said:
For the weapon, maybe the murderer failed to one hit because the victim saw them in the mirror.
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Yoko explained that how he weapon was not used to hurt Kyoko at any point of the murder, if the knife failed to hit, then why it was found to be bloody? This means that the knife may be a misleading "fake evidence".
 
Dreamtique said:
That may be due to lack of evidence for the time being.
Yoko explained that how he weapon was not used to hurt Kyoko at any point of the murder, if the knife failed to hit, then why it was found to be bloody? This means that the knife may be a misleading "fake evidence".
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Man, with the lack of evidence, this gonna be tough.


What should we ask Monokumada? We can only ask him a yes or no question? I dont know thebrules for asking questions.


((I didn't knew that swagger also ment wrestling xD intresting))
 
Kiseichu said:
It would be too easy if you were allowed to smell, and that's creepy and perverted.
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Wait a fucking second


You basically just admitted that someone has dyed hair
 
Kiseichu said:
No shit Sherlock, it's the blackened.
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Well, I didn't continue reading when I posted that. So yes, everyone's aware of it and I look like a fool. Oops.


I'm not sure how I feel about witholding an action because it'd solve a mystery too soon. The fact we even came to that conclusion (whoever has dyed hair must be the murderer) means we've got it.


I mean, Byakuya ran the risk of killing himself if his theory was wrong in class trial 4 in the original. In the same game, everyone had to show their tool box in trial 1 and whoever didn't have one had an opened one was the killer.


Ah, whatever.
 
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Wait. Can someone show me the page with the ghost sighting? Because I think I may be able to point out a contradiction, depending on when it happened.
 
Ammokkx said:
Wait. Can someone show me the page with the ghost sighting? Because I think I may be able to point out a contradiction, depending on when it happened.
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Check Entarriance's posts
 
After re-reading a ton of stuff, I have come to the conclusion that Sehema's story of sighting a blue-haired person does not add up.


Time to bring that up.
 
On the topic of planned vs. unplanned, it's basically one of two ways:


1. The murder was unplanned.

Ryik said:
Alex "Seth Ryder" Cardona


It seems safe to say that the murder wasn't pre-meditated. If it was, the cause of death wouldn't have been a glass shard, and there probably wouldn't have been a struggle.
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Regardless of the quantity of letters, the murderer didn't intend to murder Kyoko.


(I'd like to point out that you can correct Alex with the second possibility.)


2. The knife was the intended weapon. This line of reasoning also opens up the possibility that Kyoko was trying to kill someone.


Either person could have tried to murder the other. With his cameras, Monokumada would know if Kyoko or her killer could have written a lure letter.


Hard to tell how many red herrings Kiseichu is willing to employ, but it explains the knife nicely, and removes the need for a second letter.


In any case, I'm starting to like the questions "Who did Monokumada write letters to?" Or "How many letters did Monokumada give to students?" (Depending on what can permissibly be asked)
 
Yeah, I think the 'How many letters' question sounds like a good one.


ON ANOTHER NOTE.


I feel that, right now, we're solving the case with like five people. Where the rest at? We need to think together, dangnabbit
 
Ammokkx said:
I feel that, right now, we're solving the case with like five people. Where the rest at? We need to think together, dangnabbit
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Sorry. I'd participate more, but this entire hair dye situation is kind of making my head spin. Reading this OOC debate about it all at once has definitely confused me. Lol.


I'll be able to post more frequently this weekend, so if I see an opportunity to post and help out with the case, I'll take it if I can. I'm just sort of overwhelmed by all of the evidence being thrown around and the hair dye debate going on here and I'll probably have to go back a couple of pages and reread a bunch of stuff eventually.
 
I'm awake. I just got through reading through everyone's post while heading to work. Also how does Sehema's story not add up? I just wanted to ask cause if someone didn't pass Sehema, then how was she able to find the hair and the cosmetics?
 
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Lol sorry for making things more complicated ;; i guess at the moment it's best to move on to a new subject.


Are the student given files , like monokuma file or the murder info be found in the PDA, like in the game/anime? I kinda imagine they would be given.


Off topic, i forgot for a moment that the academy is in japan . I'll try addressing people via last name when Katsukou is talking, and I'll guess I'll use honorifics, since it's proper? I've never used honorifics while rping, so i find them a bit strange, but wat is your guy's opinion writing/using them? Im just curious.
 
TripTripleTimes said:
Lol sorry for making things more complicated ;; i guess at the moment it's best to move on to a new subject.
Are the student given files , like monokuma file or the murder info be found in the PDA, like in the game/anime? I kinda imagine they would be given.


Off topic, i forgot for a moment that the academy is in japan . I'll try addressing people via last name when Katsukou is talking, and I'll guess I'll use honorifics, since it's proper? I've never used honorifics while rping, so i find them a bit strange, but wat is your guy's opinion writing/using them? Im just curious.
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I'm trying to make it a gag where Ayu uses honorifics out of habit, even though we're speaking English. I normally don't do them, only when everyone else does.
 
Ammokkx said:
I'm trying to make it a gag where Ayu uses honorifics out of habit, even though we're speaking English. I normally don't do them, only when everyone else does.
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((Pretend everything is subtitled lol.))


But yeah, the name thing and honorifics kinda gets me when im rping a japanese setting.


Anything we should discuss about the murder? The ooc feels like a hive mind for all our character :P
 
TripTripleTimes said:
Off topic, i forgot for a moment that the academy is in japan . I'll try addressing people via last name when Katsukou is talking, and I'll guess I'll use honorifics, since it's proper? I've never used honorifics while rping, so i find them a bit strange, but wat is your guy's opinion writing/using them? Im just curious.
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I don't know about you guys, but Alex was made with the intention of being canonically American, (going as far as to have an English accent if appropriate) and will act as such.
 
TripTripleTimes said:
So the characters be able to debate what question to ask? But wont that use up our count?
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No arguing, just bringing up a few points and asking questions. I figured it'd be a lot easier than just reading the OOC or posting reminders.
 
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