Fantasy Crimson Streets

[InsanEleven]

Are we hating each other now? Can I join in? (*U*)


*smashes some random pottery*


 
I don't want to sound rude or something, but for people on a secret mission, you guys know awfully little about not screaming names and flashes powers in the middle of the streets...

 

[Dragongal]

Are we hating each other now? Can I join in? (*U*)
*smashes some random pottery*


 
I don't want to sound rude or something, but for people on a secret mission, you guys know awfully little about not screaming names and flashes powers in the middle of the streets...

I don't think they were screaming, also, they're next to the gate. There's no houses near the gates. There's literally nobody but maybe a guard to hear them.

 

[InsanEleven]

you tell me that now, don't make up scenery none knows yet >-<

 

[Dragongal]

Are we hating each other now? Can I join in? (*U*)
*smashes some random pottery*.

AND NO HATING IN OOC.


Take it to PMs

 

[InsanEleven]

and I wouldn't trust a guard either, and besides that we have someone in our mids who may or may not be a spy + whomever is close enough to hear, just because there aren't houses doesn't mean there aren't people eavesdropping


 
It still most definitely wouldn't be wise to get used to spewing about information that easily


 
I always had the idea the Inner Stein was something like a capital city full of nobles, and pretty crowded. The wall, though certainly impressive, was in my mind more something to separate the inner part of the city to the suburban outskirts in the second stein.


 
The thing is, people love living near walls, it's nearly an instinct to crawl up to something that completely protects you from one side. That's why castle's were usually in the centre of a village, as the castle came first and the village later. Unless you have a wired fence, tanks and landmines, I don't think you can keep the wall clear from people wanting to live near it.


I also think that in the current political setting, the queen wouldn't, or even shouldn't be wasting her energy on keeping people from building against a wall. There are many bigger problems that require guards and their attention.

 

[Dragongal]

and I wouldn't trust a guard either, and besides that we have someone in our mids who may or may not be a spy + whomever is close enough to hear, just because there aren't houses doesn't mean there aren't people eavesdropping
 
It still most definitely wouldn't be wise to get used to spewing about information that easily

Look, Polaris was buying time, and she never started speaking about a legit plan for this reason, in case someone was eavesdropping.

 

[InsanEleven]

not a legit plan, but if you combine everything said over the last few points most people would be able to pinpoint quite a lot. I already wouldn't be too happy about real names and those two powers showing up, and you did give away who would be vanguard and who would be sneaking around...

 

[Dragongal]

not a legit plan, but if you combine everything said over the last few points most people would be able to pinpoint quite a lot. I already wouldn't be too happy about real names and those two powers showing up, and you did give away who would be vanguard and who would be sneaking around...

There's a reason she didn't. I get your point. She's not a stealthy character anyway, and she's frustrated.

 

[InsanEleven]

Well then we need to work on that little flaw of Polaris, shouldn't we xD


If only we could move on soon >-<

 

[Dragongal]

If only we could move on soon >-<

I'll be happy when we can.


 

I'll let you figure out why it's stupid.

I think I realized, finally, that you seem to mean the check as in money. I took it as meaning "Cashing that check" = "Doing what you threatened"


If that's not it, then I must be stupid, because I'm stumped.

 

[CallSign]

Would you ask Rocky Balboa why he's raising his fists after he said a person couldn't beat him in a fight?

 

[Dragongal]

Would you ask Rocky Balboa why he's raising his fists after he said a person couldn't beat him in a fight?

No, because he said nothing about injury. Had he said something about injury, yes, I would.

 

[CallSign]

The thing is, people love living near walls, it's nearly an instinct to crawl up to something that completely protects you from one side. That's why castle's were usually in the centre of a village, as the castle came first and the village later. Unless you have a wired fence, tanks and landmines, I don't think you can keep the wall clear from people wanting to live near it.

The thing is, that's completely wrong. I don't know what edgy beliefs you have about humanity, but even the stupid ones have some measure of logic to their actions.


Castles are predominantly built as either remote fortresses or places to govern the people of the area. In the first case, they were built in locations that made them easier to defend, such as an island in the middle of a lake or on top of a mountain. Cities did not and could not form around them. In the second case, they were built beside or inside existing cities, which is the exact opposite of what you suggest.


Now, people wouldn't WANT to live by defensive walls. That's a horrible idea. Have you ever actually been to a castle? Normally the housing facilities aren't next to the walls, sans maybe a guardhouse built into the wall. Think, for a moment, about what would happen to those walls in a battle. The opponent is outside the wall, which means the walls would be crashed inward. Those living close to the walls would have their homes destroyed, both by the weapons used to destroy the walls and by the destroyed walls themselves.

 

[InsanEleven]

@CallSign


that's utter bullshit, castles provided protection and such, and it was very common for people to huddle up close to where knights and holy orders were established. Though it may very well be that not all towns were arranged near castles, a lot of them actually where, and there is enough historical proof of this. Many small towns in france and the uk still have a bastion or monestary right in the center.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_town


http://www.timeref.com/life/townlife.htm

Spoiler

More towns grew up around castles and monasteries. Both castles and large churches would have provided protection in time of trouble and would have been a source of employment and somewhere to sell goods. Cathedrals and abbeys were also places where pilgrims visited and these people needed places to stay and places to eat. There were plenty of opportunities for work and new occupations to be taken up. Tradesmen moved into the towns to supply the needs of the inhabitants.


and these sites have a small part on it too


http://www.historyonthenet.com/medieval_life/towns.htm


http://www.medieval-spell.com/Medieval-Towns/


examples of towns which have either a castle or fortress in the center: rothenburg ob der tauber, carcasonne, rhodes and palmanova to a certain extend.

 

[Dragongal]

It's a fantasy RP in the end, It doesn't matter. Take this to PMs if it's so important to both of you.

 

[CallSign]

@Elvengarda


Congrats, you're the first to actually attempt research on a subject to support your point. There is certainly historical precedence for castle towns, but the common castle was not a castle town. The page dedicated to all castles describes such things using the term "sometimes," not "often." On top of that, the page on castle towns has no citations whatsoever, meaning it's entirely written by contributors who haven't done research worth citing. For reference, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle#Location_and_landscape


However, the most important part of this discussion is not the castle; we know that there is a castle surrounded by houses here. What is important is whether the houses are close to the wall or not. Rothenburg: there is a road between the wall and most buildings, with only a few built against the wall (likely guardhouses). Carcasonne: the double-walled structure shows that there are no buildings against the primary wall. Rhodes' image is inconclusive.


Palmanova, however, is a perfect example of what I've stated. There is a large gap between the walls and the first row of buildings, allowing not only space to protect buildings from siege but a road for military movement within the wall to respond to attackers. It is a perfect example of a planned settlement, which is precisely what the first stein would most likely be. In any other stein I could see slum shacks propped up against the wall, but the first stein is described to be for the nobility (and royal family) first and foremost.


However, as this is a setting built in part by @Dragongal, they have the final say in what's what. As they have stated, "there are no houses by the gates." I primarily took issue with your comment about people crawling toward protection. It's the kind of remark I would expect from an edgy teenager attempting to put up an air of refinement.

 

[Dragongal]

@ElvengardaHowever, as this is a setting built in part by @Dragongal, they have the final say in what's what. As they have stated, "there are no houses by the gates." I primarily took issue with your comment about people crawling toward protection. It's the kind of remark I would expect from an edgy teenager attempting to put up an air of refinement.

While I thank you for ending this argument, and do not wish it to come up again, I must say that your "edgy teenager" remark was very unnecessary and would merely antagonizes Elvengarda, despite the argument being over.


I will not stand for antagonizing or rude remarks on this thread, and that goes for every player.

 

[Dragongal]

@Elvengarda - Insignus Vox


@TheStoicist - Isaac Keefe "Mutt"


We will be time-skipping into the Second Stein in a little bit. If anyone has anything they'd like to do or say before that, PM me immediately. Like this post when you read it, so I know everyone understands.


Also, characters from your character's backstory (Friends, family, acquaintances, enemies) are welcome to be used, just PM me and we'll work it out


If you must post before the timeskip, or as a reply to KnightofShadows, please remember time, as it'd be nice to be getting a move on.


I WILL BE MAKING THE TIMESKIP TOMORROW.

 

[Luminescent]

I've been really really busy lately and I've had a hard time posting and keeping up with the events of the RP, so very sadly I'm going to have to drop this RP. Im also afraid that keeping up a detailed RP during the school year will be very hindering to my school work, which comes number 1 in my life. I'll have Prudence visit her parents and become homesick, return her armor etc. and then say her goodbyes.


Thank you all for a very fun time. Best of luck to you all.


~Luminescent

 

[Dragongal]

I've been really really busy lately and I've had a hard time posting and keeping up with the events of the RP, so very sadly I'm going to have to drop this RP. Im also afraid that keeping up a detailed RP during the school year will be very hindering to my school work, which comes number 1 in my life. I'll have Prudence visit her parents and become homesick, return her armor etc. and then say her goodbyes.
Thank you all for a very fun time. Best of luck to you all.


~Luminescent

Thanks for letting us know. You're welcome to hop back in if you get bored during the school year.

 

[Dragongal]

@Unwavering Knight


@CallSign


You guys okay? I don't want to have too many posts by the same people in too short of a time-span.

 

[Unwavering Knight]

@Dragongal - I have to admit, recently I have been extremely focused on the Site's Character Contest. I am ripe with ambition, greedy for victory and have the desire to display my writing skill for all to see. We started out with around 64 competitors, now only 16 of us are left, to be halved again next round. Consequently, I am pouring all my efforts and concentration into that activity, for the sole purpose of not bearing regret if I actually lose.


I want to win. I want to give my best and be brought to my limits.

 

[Dragongal]

@Dragongal[/URL] - I have to admit, recently I have been extremely focused on the Site's Character Contest. I am ripe with ambition, greedy for victory and have the desire to display my writing skill for all to see. We started out with around 64 competitors, now only 16 of us are left, to be halved again next round. Consequently, I am pouring all my efforts and concentration into that activity, for the sole purpose of not bearing regret if I actually lose.
I want to win. I want to give my best and be brought to my limits.

Best of luck. With the skill you've shown on here, I bet you'll win.

 

[Dragongal]

@CallSign It's been over two weeks since your last post, and over a week since a post you were tagged in, and you have not made a post IC, OOC, or PMed me in over two weeks. As is stated in the rules, "Please in some way post at least once a week so I know that you're still in the roleplay, or at least message me, if I'm not contacted in some way your character will be killed off."


Therefore, if I do not hear from you by this time tomorrow, you will be removed from the roleplay.

 

[Dragongal]

@CallSign It's been over two weeks since your last post, and over a week since a post you were tagged in, and you have not made a post IC, OOC, or PMed me in over two weeks. As is stated in the rules, "Please in some way post at least once a week so I know that you're still in the roleplay, or at least message me, if I'm not contacted in some way your character will be killed off."
Therefore, if I do not hear from you by this time tomorrow, you will be removed from the roleplay.

@CallSign Time is up. You are removed from the roleplay as of this moment.