Character Critique Thread

No matter how little Umbra is in control, no school hires highly mentally unstable people with a chance to become straight up evil. Even 108 has standards.

If he really did get 3000+ kills then I'd expect him to be more affected. The man who got those kills you mentioned hates thinking of the stats like that because it reduces war to a sickening game.

The revolver is completely frivolous. At a guess, since it's hard to tell the limits of his powers, I'd imagine he has no need for it.

Upon further consideration, the DID thing is somewhat troubling. He does not have DID since that's a psychiatric disorder and this is purely brought on by his powers. I do worry that you might write this incorrectly if you keep calling it DID anyway - have you done much research into the disorder to avoid getting anything wrong? I can't help but worry you just have it to be a gimmick to make the character more interesting artificially rather than just making a good character.

Any time mate.
Hmm... I see the problems now... Though I am in the middle of editing Elias, i planned that Umbra was either chaotic and selfish, or cruel and sadistic. Both of which don't exactly mean he's evil, more so, just very disturbed. And as for the DID brought out from his powers? I have done research on the illness, but that was around a few months ago. I might freshen up a bit. And as for the revolver? I guess he doesn't really need it. Also, the 3000+ kills? I guess I should change that seeing as I can't seem to think of it as much anymore.

Thanks again for telling me what to edit.
 
Hmm... I see the problems now... Though I am in the middle of editing Elias, i planned that Umbra was either chaotic and selfish, or cruel and sadistic. Both of which don't exactly mean he's evil, more so, just very disturbed. And as for the DID brought out from his powers? I have done research on the illness, but that was around a few months ago. I might freshen up a bit. And as for the revolver? I guess he doesn't really need it. Also, the 3000+ kills? I guess I should change that seeing as I can't seem to think of it as much anymore.

Thanks again for telling me what to edit.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying about Umbra being problematic. First of all, chaotic and selfish or cruel and sadistic already describe some manifestations of evil quite well. Second of all, that doesn't even matter. Aegis will not hire this man! He has times when he is going to be very likely to harm people through direct action, indirect action or negligence!
 
I don't think you understand what I'm saying about Umbra being problematic. First of all, chaotic and selfish or cruel and sadistic already describe some manifestations of evil quite well. Second of all, that doesn't even matter. Aegis will not hire this man! He has times when he is going to be very likely to harm people through direct action, indirect action or negligence!
Ah.... I see.... So Umbra's problem is that he is, by some part, a manifestation of evil. I can understand, and him not being hired is also more likely. Though if I do remove the split personalities, I'm going to edit not only a bit, but also one of the points I created him for. I really wanted to have two differing entities inside Elias' head because of his ability, that and someone can be cruel and sadistic, but that doesn't essentially mean they'll be bad. It just means they'll be very rude and impertinent.... I think I found out a way to implement Umbra, without having him seem evil.

And again, thanks for the critiquing.
 
Ah.... I see.... So Umbra's problem is that he is, by some part, a manifestation of evil. I can understand, and him not being hired is also more likely. Though if I do remove the split personalities, I'm going to edit not only a bit, but also one of the points I created him for. I really wanted to have two differing entities inside Elias' head because of his ability, that and someone can be cruel and sadistic, but that doesn't essentially mean they'll be bad. It just means they'll be very rude and impertinent.... I think I found out a way to implement Umbra, without having him seem evil.

And again, thanks for the critiquing.
If someone's cruel and sadistic, that does actually mean they will be bad. According to google, cruel means "wilfully causing pain or suffering to others, or feeling no concern about it" and sadistic means deriving pleasure from the pain or suffering of others.
 
If someone's cruel and sadistic, that does actually mean they will be bad. According to google, cruel means "wilfully causing pain or suffering to others, or feeling no concern about it" and sadistic means deriving pleasure from the pain or suffering of others.
Yeah... Kinda figured a little, so I decided to water Umbra down a little, making him rude and impertinent instead. I hope this appeases you.

Thank you, once again, for critiquing my OC so I can better him.
 
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OK.... I finally finished making Elias.... If there are things needing change, please tell me.



Hey there! Welcome to AEGIS 108. Looks like you already have notes about history and personality profile and stuff, so I won't delve into that apart from to echo what J said: DID is a risky thing to write about casually. My character Kate started with something like that but softened into the personality trait of 'mercurial' and a unique (and comic bookish) trait of independent personalities hosted in her extended nervous system. That doesn't correspond to any real world mental illness and gives more freedom to explore.

I also agree that the history should be fleshed out, even if in character it is redacted. As an alternative to softening problematic personality traits, you could just add some history that explains why he is good at covering that side of himself up. Nobody is going to hire a man with sadistic tendencies to work around children on purpose but if he seems normal enough in interviews and there is nothing in his file about that...

What I do need to call your attention to is the stats. S rank can only have a total of 27 points. Even adding your lowest totals across the board you exceed that. Kate has a something of a special dispensation for the way her stats work because that is her actual power set: she has two different power sets depending on the time of day. She has three forms because she also has an unpowered phase for an hour or so during transition at twilight. None of her forms have a total that exceeds 24 however, which is the maximum for A rank.

It seems like Elias only needs two forms, one for photon and one for umbra. In any case, I would ask that you clarify which form has which stats, and make sure that no one form has more than 27 points total (current minimum appears to be more like 39) I would also suggest making most of the stats the same (as for health and energy) and just have one or two areas where he switches his weak spot (maybe defense vs agility?)

Additionally the powers themselves need clarification. You mention the possibility of teleporting other people not as a power but as a weakness. That should be a power, even if it is involuntary. The involuntary part would be the weakness in the power, but it still needs to be listed under powers.

It is also important to remember that the rule for powers is one primary power and at most two supporting powers. Kate could be misinterpreted as having more than the classic three powers the way she is written up, but basically she has two supporting powers to her primary. Primary is power switching supporting powers are flight (daytime only) and weaponry (type is day night dependent.)

My suggestion for Elias would be something like: primary power: dark-light manipulation--able to expand existing shadows to full darkness or existing light to blinding brightness with accompanying temperature changes to dangerous or even damaging degrees. supporting power: shadow travel--in deep shadows, Elias can access a pocket dimension which is cold, dark and unhealthy
for others to visit, but he can bring passengers. When he emerges it can be anywhere on earth where it is dark. It is difficult to target a specific area beyond line of sight and the time required to travel increases geometrically with distance from a split second within line of sight up to 90 minutes for 8000 miles (the diameter of earth). Supporting power: weaponized light/shadow--after 5 seconds to 5 minutes basking in concentrated light or shadow Elias can project a telekinetic blast of the opposite type. The strength of the blast is proportional to the time spent charging, varying from as little as a high powered rifle up to and including a low yield nuclear bomb.

To be clear, this is just a suggestion, I am not trying to rewrite the character or the powerset, just trying to paint a clearer picture of how better defined powerset might look. Overall, I should say, I like the concept. Contrasts and dynamic tension is cool and interesting. The trick is to define the boundaries, both for yourself and for the rest of the cast.

The last thing I will add is: be patient with the revisions process. Some of my characters took several months to approve. That's not typical necessarily, but the more complicated the concept the more working over it tends to take to smooth out the bumps. Elias is cool, but still bumpy.

Once again, welcome to the AEGIS family!
 
VirtualUnity VirtualUnity Wazzap and welcome to Aegis. I'm Nat, the cosmic horror lurking in Welian's basement and behind J at all times. I run Nix here, the one with the power of understanding. But enough about me, let's talk about your character.

From how I'm seeing it, Elias uses light to create constructs and for offensive abilities, while he uses shadows to heal himself. Is this correct? If so, would it be fair to say that his main ability is the light then? Also, how much force can these light constructs take before they break?

Those are all the questions I have for now honestly. Not many people make an S rank as their first, so more power to you. Balancing them can be a pain, but as long as you're willing to compromise you should be fine. I look forward to roleplaying with you.
 
Gus Gus Perhaps if you didn't try to break my stat system with stat-shifting characters in an RP that wasn't originally designed for it, I wouldn't have to keep rewriting rules to make myself look good. :P
 
Gus Gus Perhaps if you didn't try to break my stat system with stat-shifting characters in an RP that wasn't originally designed for it, I wouldn't have to keep rewriting rules to make myself look good. :P
What I'm hearing is "waaaaaa I have to actually do something in this RP."
 
Stat shifting, done with care fits perfectly within your deightfully vague system boss.
 
Hey there! Welcome to AEGIS 108. Looks like you already have notes about history and personality profile and stuff, so I won't delve into that apart from to echo what J said: DID is a risky thing to write about casually. My character Kate started with something like that but softened into the personality trait of 'mercurial' and a unique (and comic bookish) trait of independent personalities hosted in her extended nervous system. That doesn't correspond to any real world mental illness and gives more freedom to explore.

I also agree that the history should be fleshed out, even if in character it is redacted. As an alternative to softening problematic personality traits, you could just add some history that explains why he is good at covering that side of himself up. Nobody is going to hire a man with sadistic tendencies to work around children on purpose but if he seems normal enough in interviews and there is nothing in his file about that...

What I do need to call your attention to is the stats. S rank can only have a total of 27 points. Even adding your lowest totals across the board you exceed that. Kate has a something of a special dispensation for the way her stats work because that is her actual power set: she has two different power sets depending on the time of day. She has three forms because she also has an unpowered phase for an hour or so during transition at twilight. None of her forms have a total that exceeds 24 however, which is the maximum for A rank.

It seems like Elias only needs two forms, one for photon and one for umbra. In any case, I would ask that you clarify which form has which stats, and make sure that no one form has more than 27 points total (current minimum appears to be more like 39) I would also suggest making most of the stats the same (as for health and energy) and just have one or two areas where he switches his weak spot (maybe defense vs agility?)

Additionally the powers themselves need clarification. You mention the possibility of teleporting other people not as a power but as a weakness. That should be a power, even if it is involuntary. The involuntary part would be the weakness in the power, but it still needs to be listed under powers.

It is also important to remember that the rule for powers is one primary power and at most two supporting powers. Kate could be misinterpreted as having more than the classic three powers the way she is written up, but basically she has two supporting powers to her primary. Primary is power switching supporting powers are flight (daytime only) and weaponry (type is day night dependent.)

My suggestion for Elias would be something like: primary power: dark-light manipulation--able to expand existing shadows to full darkness or existing light to blinding brightness with accompanying temperature changes to dangerous or even damaging degrees. supporting power: shadow travel--in deep shadows, Elias can access a pocket dimension which is cold, dark and unhealthy
for others to visit, but he can bring passengers. When he emerges it can be anywhere on earth where it is dark. It is difficult to target a specific area beyond line of sight and the time required to travel increases geometrically with distance from a split second within line of sight up to 90 minutes for 8000 miles (the diameter of earth). Supporting power: weaponized light/shadow--after 5 seconds to 5 minutes basking in concentrated light or shadow Elias can project a telekinetic blast of the opposite type. The strength of the blast is proportional to the time spent charging, varying from as little as a high powered rifle up to and including a low yield nuclear bomb.

To be clear, this is just a suggestion, I am not trying to rewrite the character or the powerset, just trying to paint a clearer picture of how better defined powerset might look. Overall, I should say, I like the concept. Contrasts and dynamic tension is cool and interesting. The trick is to define the boundaries, both for yourself and for the rest of the cast.

The last thing I will add is: be patient with the revisions process. Some of my characters took several months to approve. That's not typical necessarily, but the more complicated the concept the more working over it tends to take to smooth out the bumps. Elias is cool, but still bumpy.

Once again, welcome to the AEGIS family!
THANK YOU! You actually got a few points right about my future edit. I did plan for Elias to be able to teleport using the darkness, while also being able to make super heated beams of light. As for the D.I.D.? I'm re-writing it for it to be specifically a trait from his powers. And Welian told me about your character and mine's similarities. I'll work hard to smooth out the bumps, thanks for the critiquing.
 
Here is my Christmas gift to all you peasants. Please, bask in the brilliance of my pretty profile which I spent a solid twenty minutes painstakingly coding so it could have the prettiest purple possible.
Kinda want opinions on the Portal size because I can't visualise it or do math for shit. Too big? Too small?
Opinions on other stuff would of course be welcome as well.

Edit one: Energy stat boosted to 8
Portal Slide side-power removed.


Juárez, M.

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Lemon Boy Lemon Boy Looks pretty solid!

Stats look good. Bio is believable and interesting. Might change some of the personality keywords? Satirical, while it can mean what you describe is very rarely used as description of a person, but rather for a piece of writing. That all of our characters are by definition pieces of writing is a little too meta; I would go with sarcastic, acerbic, or (my favorite: hurtful)

Sybaritic: kudos for making me google a new word. :) The downside of that being that the point of the one word description, as I understand it, is to communicate character traits at a glance. Maybe Hedonistic, Debauched, or Libertine?

Percipient I also had to google, but I don't think it fits what you describe. Not sure what word you want for that though. Experienced? Seasoned? Worldly beyond his years? Dunno. Percipient means perceptive though which is not what you describe.

Relationships: need some, even if just the dad. I have a criminal file I thought I previously posted but can't find in old threads. Will add that if you'd like 'car thief' in your list of former associates.

Skills and flaws looks great! I love the symmetry of their contrasts.

Powers I like very much, though I have a few points I am unclear about, as I mentioned in discord, and I have a few more concerns that popped up as I have been mulling it over this afternoon.

First, I don't quite understand how they can be both fixed at 1.5 meters in diameter and also scatter like a shotgun.
Do they overlap, or do they spread out over a massive area?
Do they start small and then expand to 1.5 meters, or do they combine to a single 1.5 meter disc?


Where do they teleport material to if he fires off just one blast?
How many can he have open at one time?
Can they cut through force fields and the like, or only solid matter?
What happens when they encounter something they can't cut through?

Given that they can cut through virtually anything, they seem like a highly lethal attack, maybe make them slower to avoid Insta-kill scenarios? If they are slow enough that basically anyone can dodge, then they become more useful as indirect attacks, collapsing walls ceilings and floors to discourage pursuit, as well as making escape through them directly. Being able to just cheese grate anybody within a football field's radius into chunky salsa, even with brief forewarning and limited accuracy seems... dangerous?

I would suggest maybe something like:

Portal bubble blast: shoots a swarm of tiny 'bubble portals' which will randomly teleport any material that passes through a bubble to another bubble in the swarm, effectively carving out a small chunk of any physical obstacle and dropping it anywhere from a few inches to several feet away. As the swarm moves in the general direction it was pointed, the bubbles expand and merge together with sharp popping noises accompanied by bright flashes of white light mixed with a light dose of x-rays. The larger bubbles carve out bigger chunks of anything they pass through, again randomly distributing the matter that passed through to other bubbles. Within 30 to 40 feet they combine to form a single portal about 4 feet in diameter. This will connect randomly to any previously formed portal, usually the most inconvenient one, unless Manuel concentrates to choose the destination. He can hold up to five fully formed portals open at one time before he must close one to initiate another blast.

I would suggest downgrading the speed of them to a brisk walk? That combined with curtailed range reduces the possibility of bringing down whole buildings without meaning to do so, as well as avoiding forcing people to choose between realistic results of being attacked by portals (dying horribly) and writing outrageous coincidences to explain why they didn't choose the first option.

If I have utterly misinterpreted what you were trying to do here, please feel free to disregard the above two paragraphs. That is the best I could come up with after reading the portal cut entry on TV tropes pretty thoroughly and taking the afternoon to think about it.

Looking forward to having one of your characters back in the RP!

Welcome back.
 
Prior, M


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Gus Gus Firstly thank you for fixing the giant gap between stuff, would've made it painful to read otherwise. Now, onto the actual character review!
That ain't no Blondie in the fc. Mucho suspicious about that hair being blond.
Pretty interesting personality and history, I don't see many issues. Intriguing without being a giant snowflake of a character.
Cool powers that aren't op or overdone either without being totally useless or weird. Nice.
Fair standard skills that mesh make sense with who he is as a person. Also doesn't have 9000 skills and only two negatives, two skills and flaws, which is a good point in my book.

Cool character, doesn't seem too out of whack, interesting without being token weird or op. Skills that mesh well, personality that makes them capable of being interacted with but not a generic Steve #01.
Acceptable to me.

Outside of review of your character, appreciate the feedback on my character.
Truth be told I just used the fancy words because they were all roughly the same length and matched so it made the personality section look neater. See about finding replacements at a later date.
Relationships shall be added soon, got kinda lazy at that point truth be told. Also wouldn't mind having your Car Whisperer and Manuel be associates of some kind.

I like the Bubble portal idea, easier to visualise and well, it'll look prettier. I'll see about implementing some of your suggestions on those.
I'll see about downgrading the speed given the destructive capabilities and lethality of the power.
Not so sure, solid matter maybe? Haven't really thought about it given force-fields aren't exactly an everyday thing.
No exact limit on how many portals he can have open at a time.
 
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thank you Necessity4Fun Necessity4Fun for her wonderful assistance with this
You're welcome OWO7
Yep folks, if you read the CS above and think about me it's because I wrote it. It ended up being a kind of a collab where I made a thousand questions to The Mechanist, then wrote something with what he told me, sent it back to him for his approval and vice versa!
It's been a long week ^^'

A little Note: We did the stats before anything else and did not revisit those after the power had been written down, so it might need some tweaks. I didn't want to be the one to push them tho because it felt like I was already pitching too much on a character that was not mine >w<

Also, I'm guessing he uses Dark Theme which is why the text that was in the default color went grey, which is weird (I think we found a bug!)
So sorry about that Light Theme people like myself... maybe welian welian can fix it (I don't have mod powers in here!)
 
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Character seems pretty good to me imo. Superpower section could use some slicing here and there to make it more concise but other than that seems fairly solid in terms of character profiles and all that.

If you want to make it Light theme friendly, you can enter the bbcode bit and you should see the #hexcolor thing. If you remove that, the text should revert to the standard text.
 
Necessity4Fun Necessity4Fun The Mechanist The Mechanist
Character seems pretty good to me imo. Superpower section could use some slicing here and there to make it more concise but other than that seems fairly solid in terms of character profiles and all that.

If you want to make it Light theme friendly, you can enter the bbcode bit and you should see the #hexcolor thing. If you remove that, the text should revert to the standard text.
I admit concise is not my thing, I could use some help with that ^^'

He doesn't mess with code, at all. And it's probably a pain from his phone anyway. I would edit it myself if I could...
It was a really weird thing to happen since the code had no color settings other than the red on the stats, so IDK what happened. This used to be a thing with IPS (it would copy even background colors for no reason) I had no idea it could happen again : /
 
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I gotchu. Unaltered font color that's compatible with both the light and dark themes. Should be able to just cut out the profile code from a quote of this post.

Cortez, R

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Ugghhhh the tabs look weird on the new site theme but I don't care enough to do anything about it.
 
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    Oh my, that's funny!​
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