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[Idea]

If one can't balance order and freedom they probably shouldn't have that freedom in the first place

That's where the debate is. Some think freedom is better than order and are thus completely willing to destroy order to get freedom, others are the opposite. And then are the moderates who want both, but if you can't say exactly where the line is drawn, how much of your freedom you are willing to let go of to keep order, then you are being just as irresponsible as a moderate as either of the other two sides.

 

[St. Elsewhere]

That's where the debate is. Some think freedom is better than order and are thus completely willing to destroy order to get freedom, others are the opposite. And then are the moderates who want both, but if you can't say exactly where the line is drawn, how much of your freedom you are willing to let go of to keep order, then you are being just as irresponsible as a moderate as either of the other two sides.

It's easy to have freedom without breaking laws/rules/conduct/etc. I don't know, people who decide that their own personal freedom is worth more then the law are sociopaths in my opinion.

 

[Xel]

It's easy to have freedom without breaking laws/rules/conduct/etc. I don't know, people who decide that their own personal freedom is worth more then the law are sociopaths in my opinion.

Depends what those laws/rules/conduct/etc are. Just because it's a law doesn't automatically mean we should obey it. And everyone has their own idea of which laws are just and which aren't.

 

[Idea]

It's easy to have freedom without breaking laws/rules/conduct/etc. I don't know, people who decide that their own personal freedom is worth more then the law are sociopaths in my opinion.

Well, moral issues are never simple. I argue morals are objective rather than subjective, but if we go and simplify them we are bound to make mistakes.

For example take Nazi Germany. The law at the time was to not hide any jews and expose any jews in hiding to the authorities. We all know how this would turn out for any people who did and many families chose to go against the law for this.

For a maybe less clear-cut example, you have the American declaration of independence. At the time, there was no universally recognized right to independence and you might argue even today some countries don't recognize it. So what the americans did by rebelling for their freedom was, regardless of whether you think it was right or wrong, a criminal and traitorous action which ended up instigating a war on top of it.

 

[St. Elsewhere]

Depends what those laws/rules/conduct/etc are. Just because it's a law doesn't automatically mean we should obey it. And everyone has their own idea of which laws are just and which aren't.

Obviously, I understand if there's a law that states "You can't wear blue shirts" or something in that vein. I just can't identify with people who'll protest over the drop of a hat, because that hat had a Naruto logo and they don't like shounens.

 

[Idea]

Obviously, I understand if there's a law that states "You can't wear blue shirts" or something in that vein. I just can't identify with people who'll protest over the drop of a hat, because that hat had a Naruto logo and they don't like shounens.

And yet that exact kind of people are considered psychopaths under your statement below:

It's easy to have freedom without breaking laws/rules/conduct/etc. I don't know, people who decide that their own personal freedom is worth more then the law are sociopaths in my opinion.

Now this doesn't have to be your opinion but it is fact that it questions where exactly the line is drawn for you and why

 

[Xel]

Obviously, I understand if there's a law that states "You can't wear blue shirts" or something in that vein. I just can't identify with people who'll protest over the drop of a hat, because that hat had a Naruto logo and they don't like shounens.

Everyone has different views on what's important. One man's pettiness is another man's righteous crusade. Doesn't mean they're right. They're still a petty I'm uncultured. But you gotta at least know where they're coming from.

 

[Idea]

They're still a petty I'm uncultured

I see the site is still doing the good ol' censoring

 

[St. Elsewhere]

And yet that exact kind of people are considered psychopaths under your statement below:



Now this doesn't have to be your opinion but it is fact that it questions where exactly the line is drawn for you and why

I'm not saying that we should shut up, and obey the government no matter what. I'm not delusional, however I DO think unless a law specifically threats your right as citizen, that's it's just better off obeying said law. I don't like abortions, but it's acceptable in the perspective of the justice system. I'm not going to raid abortion sites because I don't agree with the practice.

Everyone has different views on what's important. One man's pettiness is another man's righteous crusade. Doesn't mean they're right. They're still a petty I'm uncultured. But you gotta at least know where they're coming from.

I understand what you mean, but it's hard to understand the perspective of somebody you don't agree with, y'know?

 

[Xel]

I'm not saying that we should shut up, and obey the government no matter what. I'm not delusional, however I DO think unless a law specifically threats your right as citizen, that's it's just better off obeying said law. I don't like abortions, but it's acceptable in the perspective of the justice system. I'm not going to raid abortion sites because I don't agree with the practice.



I understand what you mean, but it's hard to understand the perspective of somebody you don't agree with, y'know?

I find it super easy to understand the perspective of people I don't agree with. Even crazies have a logic to their actions. You just gotta trace that logic back and it explains why they think the way they do, even if they're wrong.

 

[Idea]

I'm not saying that we should shut up, and obey the government no matter what. I'm not delusional, however I DO think unless a law specifically threats your right as citizen, that's it's just better off obeying said law. I don't like abortions, but it's acceptable in the perspective of the justice system. I'm not going to raid abortion sites because I don't agree with the practice.

And what if rights contradict each other?

 

[BlueClover]

Spoiler: Shammy as President

 

[St. Elsewhere]

I find it super easy to understand the perspective of people I don't agree with. Even crazies have a logic to their actions. You just gotta trace that logic back and it explains why they think the way they do, even if they're wrong.

Perhaps that's something I need to work on.

And what if rights contradict each other?

What exactly do you mean?

 

[Idea]

Perhaps that's something I need to work on.


What exactly do you mean?

Well, what is the line if one of your rights has to be violated to protect another? Or if a person's rights have to be violated to protect another's person's rights?

 

[BlueClover]

Spoiler: Shammy as President

Also Shammy as President:

 

[Xel]

Also Shammy as President:

Given the way those two are intently staring at her I foresee her regretting this course of action in five minutes.

 

[St. Elsewhere]

Well, what is the line if one of your rights has to be violated to protect another? Or if a person's rights have to be violated to protect another's person's rights?

Well, that's a difficult situation to fix. Take voting for example, there's no definitive way to please everyone in that type of situation.

 

[St. Elsewhere]

Given the way those two are intently staring at her I foresee her regretting this course of action in five minutes.

Regretting or enjoying?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[BlueClover]

Regretting or enjoying?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

The young boy is her brother -3-

And the man is the 8 1/2 President of the United states

 

[Idea]

Well, that's a difficult situation to fix. Take voting for example, there's no definitive way to please everyone in that type of situation.

Exactly. At least on this world we can't afford to think there is a perfect solution. As rational beings we ought to find the point where the respect for the rights is maximized and that's where different morals come in. Because we all have different information and perspectives we end up having different data to work with as we try to work towards the same end-goal and thus we arrive at vastly different methods and conclusions.

For example, I believe there is a hierarchy of dependent values where values are more or less important in relations of dependence or numbers.

 

[Xel]

The young boy is her brother -3-

And the man is the 8 1/2 President of the United states

Probably why you shouldn't legalize everything.

 

[BlueClover]

Probably why you shouldn't legalize everything.

Can I at least eat a box of crayons ;-;

 

[Xel]

Can I at least eat a box of crayons ;-;

No.

 

[BlueClover]

No.

Meanie

 

[Idea]

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To the members roleplaying in the infimary, you shouldn't be there, except for simj26 and the one told to bring them there, I think it was Trombone
The rest will be forgiven this time but Flora will still scold them for not following the school rules and for not being outside. BriiAngelic Space_Kaiser


As for the people who are in the dorms right now, my aplogies but I am gonna have to ask you to edit that out. I'm afraid the characters weren't suppose to be inside the buildings at all and the teachers wouldn't let them. Plus I had important details to tell you only when the students were told to go to their dorms, so I can't have you having gone there before that.
Once again my apologies, I should have checked before this happened but the updates and all those other things I mentioned yesterday got my hands tied. I hope you can forgive me this mistake.
BriiAngelic Xel The One Eyed Bandit

Lastly, I don't thinkI saw any of the quirks used beyond the allowed extent, and I will pretend none existed if there was. However, I urge that everyone go and familiarize yourselves with the PSA rules in the lore section.

Lastly, if I missed anything of this nature for you or someone you know please let me or said person know and urge them to correct it