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Oh, I'm speaking up. While I definitely approve of this approach towards your happiness as a human being and roleplayer, good Killfire, there's a guideline that has served me well for a long time: "It's only fun if everyone's having fun."


After a lot of thought about this, I think I have narrowed some thoughts down:


1. It really depends on how you go about doing this. Kaerri has an excellent point - I can't tell you what Koshianth would do if your character just ran up and smacked her with a pillow. She might think it's cute; she might turn Bronze into a frog (she's not in my head right now, or she'd tell me). As long as you are willing to deal with the possible consequences, you can certainly go after the benefits.


2. I am not O.K. with this if it (or anyone's behavior) changes the tone or course of our game. I know that's not your intent - you just want to have fun - I just can't promise everyone else will think it's fun too. So... I was thinking...


3. What about a single, but serious change in character concept? What if, instead of a human being, Bronze was a special talking rabbit? Sounds crazy, right?


Here are some ideas: Your character will become truly harmless. This means your character couldn't cause damage to anything if he wanted to. However, other creatures realize this and see your character as absolutely no threat whatsoever. Therefore, your character could haul off with a pillow and smack away without being considered a threat. This comes with the understanding that your cannot take unreasonable advantages ("Hey! No one thinks I'm a threat, so I walk into that brigand camp and bring back all of their gold!").


However, I see a drawback. Remember how Bronze was protecting the Meadowsweets? That wouldn't be a possibility anymore. What is a possibility is the idea that he could be silly, cuddly, fluffy, what-have-you when you wanted him to be and most of my characters would see him as much. I, of course, cannot speak for characters not my own. Bronze would still be able to forge and craft somehow, but I don't see him pulling a cart anywhere. Maybe, because he's a rabbit, he can talk to a horse that pulls said cart (gaining a Speak with Animals ability at the cost of opposable digits, etc.). Of course, Wolf would have to teach Pecker not to attack you, and so forth. Whatever the case, I'm just tossing ideas around in hopes of finding something everyone is all right with (back to the "It's only fun if everyone's having fun" guideline). =)


As for the slowdown... In Real Life, today was my last day at my old department. I have transferred within the company to return to something I enjoy doing. Something less stressful, less busy, but equally rewarding. It is time for me to dream a little more, and kill myself at work a little less. =)


Thoughts, everyone?
 
Dannigan said:
Something less stressful, less busy, but equally rewarding. It is time for me to dream a little more, and kill myself at work a little less. =)
Thoughts, everyone?
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No, no thoughts. I'm far too depressed after that (albeit very much glad for you), so I think I'll just lay me down to sleep it off. It's the only place I can dream unhindered *whine*
 
(Powks Wolf with a fluffy pillow, puts it on the floor so he has something to nap on, and covers with warm blankie, and sets out a plate with a nice hot char-broiled steak) Note the steak has no seasoning, and I know wolves won't eat a cooked steak, unless they know it's ok. It's ok, hence the no seasoning. Salt and pepper is ok for Dogs, NOT wolves, it messes up there sense of smell. And Salt isn't good for Dogs either... blah blah blah yak yak yak (WHAPT!) Fluffy Pillow! HA! Distracted ya! Didjaseedat?
 
Hmm. After a good night's sleep, I have reread the post I wrote last night. Perhaps having Bronze become a bunny is going a little too far. Still, I do stick with the notion that one must be careful whom one thwaps and when. Like Kaerri, I am against the idea of the silliness endangering the party, even for the sake of silliness or shock effect.


As a couple of examples, I have one character in particular who, because of what he is, needs to lighten up (no, you haven't met him yet). If this fellow gets socked with a pillow, your party might have to talk about how much his bail will cost as they lock Bronze up. On the other hand, there is another character I know who would love it and you guys would get into his good graces pretty quickly. Good judgment is required.


Killfire, Just know that the whole OOC-IC division good players practice is in full effect at all times. =) Put another way, Bria would welcome a pillow fight, while Powerpaw is more likely to eat the pillow (to see if there is any meat inside all of those feathers) - but neither Bria or Powerpaw (or any other character of mine) will act out of their player's OOC knowledge. I want all folks to have fun here while keeping the tone we have created intact.


I say, Killfire, be silly when you want to - just please keep these things in mind, buddy. =)


@Sherwood? How do you feel on the subject, bud? We haven't heard your thoughts yet.
 
Bit concerned here, I've noticed that Sherwood hasn't said anything in a while. Wonder if he's ok.
 
killfire said:
Bit concerned here, I've noticed that Sherwood hasn't said anything in a while. Wonder if he's ok.
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Yes, it has been all quiet on the Armor Cat front....


Captain Hesperus
 
Sorry guys. Been busy with Real Life. Also, have been looking to see how the conversation moves along. For my part, I am not against the comic relief aspect of Bronze as long as we know it going into the game. It would be different if it were a long running serious game and you wanted to introduce the silly to that, but with this being a fairly fresh game going on, I have no problems.
 
Thanks for the feedback, Sherwood. Glad to hear your feelings on the subject. As for Real Life, I know what you mean. =) 
All. Congratulations! Your characters have earned this downtime. This chapter was more exciting than I thought it would be - I'm glad everyone made it. Now that you have the opportunity, this is a good time for you to further get to know your characters, and for your characters to get to know everyone else. Here are some ideas you may want to converse about.


1. Bronze brought up the question of what the prismalcum could be made into. It will be a little while before that will happen. What do you want made?


2. What is your party's name? You are definitely free to change it from the Grey Wardens.


3. What are your character's goals? What are the party's goals?


4. You have one incredible wagon here. Want to name it something besides the Grand Wagon?


5. Mine is an open world. What do you want to do now that your fates are, once again, your own?
 
Luna's short term goal is to explore the Grand Wagon now that we are not about to die and see if there is any mystic lore squirreled away somewhere for her to get into her spellbook. I have quite the wish list of lower level spells to build on. Since the prismalcum is not something that will be a big benefit for her, she will be seeking some other kinds of treasure; magic items to bolster her abilities like some cool metamagic wands/rods to boost her spellcasting. Not to mention a dip in that pool, and to go ahead and explore some of the potential inter party relationships that may spring up.


Her long term goal is to become the greatest fire mage in her generation. A tall order, but one that she feels confident that she can accomplish. Moving on to the next city on the road seems like a workable plan, since there is some sort of conflict going on, it would be a good bet that a bunch of mercenaries can find some honest work.


Keeping the name of the wagon as is can work for me for now. Its a little early to start calling it 'home', but time will tell.


We also need to figure out if Stewart and the Meadowsweets are going to be traveling with us, too. Now that he's unemployed, Stewart may be willing to sign up with us to help run the Wagon, and the halflings can find good work with us, too. That will just mean we'll need to find a job for us to do to keep some income rolling in.


The name 'Grey Wardens' was one that just popped into my head early on, but I am by no means fixated on it. If someone wants to offer up a serious suggestion, I'll look forward to the idea. Otherwise, we can stick to the Grey Warden name and let our reputation build accordingly.


How does all that sit with you guys?
 
I have been told again that if I don't have buckets in my inventory I don't own any, ok fine that works for me, but I don't want to own 2 buckets of water I wanted to go get 2 empty buckets, and fill them with water. Then toss the water onto the silly ore. Then put the buckets back where I found them, carrying two buckets on your person is kind of silly. I am wondering if I'm not explaining my actions enough and am wondering if anyone does not understand what my intentions were. Right now I want my Character put into that PC Limbo where the Player is wondering if he should be playing at all. At this moment I'm concerned about the "Nit-Picking" that is going on, at this moment my enjoyment to frustration scale looks about like this 0% enjoyment 100% Frustration. I feel sad about this because Dannigan is one of the best Real Time (As in person or over a communication device) GM's I've ever known. I am also realizing that I may not be made out for this type of RP, I am NOT a writer, I'm usually very blunt spoken, and I go on the assumption that everyone has a medium of common sense. If this is is not enough here, please let me know so I can bow out and move on.
 
They say a picture's worth a thousand words, so... *howl*


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I like it. :) Except Kitrin only has one "t" in it.


Killfire, I'm sorry that the mechanics of the game appear to be getting in the way of your enjoyment. I know it's nobody's intention to ruin your fun. At the same time, though, the whole inventory question is just the way the game works. There are some GMs out there that make you list every single thing down to how many spare socks you have, then make you calculate weights, then limit how fast your speed is because of it. There are some GMs that don't care what you have at all and let you make it up as you go. Dann falls somewhere in the middle, because he wants to know what you have, at least in part so that he knows what sort of plans we might come up with. (And we can still surprise him, I promise!) There are probably other reasons he doesn't share with me - I'm his wife, not his co-GM. :wink: What it all boils down to is that your descriptions have been fine, but assumptions have been made that maybe should have been run past the GM first.
 
Killfire, that's not what I said. Please read what I said, bud, without adding anything to it.


My entire post to you said nothing about these silly buckets - I am only asking you to follow rules that I have laid out for everyone (myself included). I am sorry if doing so causes you frustration. The rest I'll say in our conversation.


Per your request, Bronze is now in T.S. (Temporal Stasis). 
@Wolf. That really looks nice! Good job! =)
 
Sorry everyone, but I don't have the mindset at the moment to continue for now. I've asked Dannigan to put my character either on a course out of the way of the group or just out. At the moment, I have my mind so focused on Reality and what has been happening in my life that I have basically lost the ability to switch out of Real Life. There are many reasons for this, but I won't go into that here. I'll resume when I feel more comfortable with the whole thing. Have fun and remember The Rabbit's are Watching, and The Pillows are Fluffy.


On a more important note, this is the second campaign that I have decided to opt out of. This might be an indication that I might not be able to switch off RL ever, analysis is requested at this time. 2nd party analysis that is. Should I continue or just stop when I'm ahead?
 
@killfire From what you've told me (here and in our Conversation thread), you want Bronze put on the sidelines, not out of the game. And that's fine. Just pause, take a breather, and come back in the game whenever you like. This game is meant to be a safe haven - a place to run to.


In the meantime, if you like, buy a copy of Pathfinder core book and learn the rules? Paizo.com has a lot of that information for free online, or you can get the core book in PDF form, or Amazon has the physical copy for about $30 USD. Not knowing the rules of a game only adds to frustration, while being familiar with them tends to add comfort. Either way, I want you to have fun. =)


The rest I'll say in private. =)
 
(Looks all sad n stuff) I iz poor. On Disability, and that's almost gone as soon as I get it, and getting a Job while on Disability sucks. What a government we have, penalize people who work or want to work, and reward people who can't or won't. Thanks for being Tolerating of my emotional flair ups and sillyness.
 
@killfire We're all only human, despite everything. We all have issues that mount up and threaten to overwhelm us. Sometimes, those issues get too much and we get swamped and we get emotional and we get touchy and we lash out without meaning to. It's human nature. So we also have to understand when others do it, see the frustration and worry that caused the outburst, accept it and move on. I'm happy for you to stay or leave, as you see fit. If you left, I'd be sad, but I wouldn't want you to stay if it was having a negative effect on your real life. RPing is an escape from the stresses of mundane life, a chance to do something detached from the drudgery of reality, an uplifting experience of shared adversity and triumph.


If you choose to go, go in peace and return safely. We shall wait for your return and welcome you back warmly.


Captain Hesperus
 
What they said! I totally understand about not being able to afford things, which is why I love that Paizo has apparently made the bulk of the info online (http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/gettingStarted.html). On the left is a red sidebar, which has expandable headers like "Core Rulebook" (guess what that means!) and under those headers are each chapter. Want to read up on rangers? Click on "Classes," then click on the blue "Ranger" link in the main text. (That's totally how I looked up Rangers when trying to help Wolf, since Dann had our one actual copy.) As far as I can tell, everything Paizo put in the Pathfinder core book is right there on their website, tables included (except the pretty artwork and some flavor text, but hey, they've got to keep something back for selling points!).


While you're dealing with Real Life, maybe you want to read up on things, or maybe you want to take a step back and do the reading when RL isn't so intrusive - either way, we're here for ya. :)


And I've got to say, as roleplaying rulebooks go, this is pretty easy to read. I actually read the entirety of the combat chapter, which I don't think I have ever done before because most times it's too complex and I tend to read only what I'm interested in. (The fact that I brought it to the mechanic's shop while I was getting my car worked on might have something to do with it - but not that much.) 
P.S. - Wolf and Luna are just too cute!
 
So! I wonder what kind of dating advice Sparkle will have for Luna?
 
Sherwood said:
So! I wonder what kind of dating advice Sparkle will have for Luna?
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"Don't let him see your cloaca until you're sure you like him."


Captain Hesperus
 
So it is done, then? Though some here commented positively on the following work of art, no one actually voted yes or no on the idea:


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If you're for it, I could even have Wolf present this in-character as the official suggestion for the party's identity that was long in the making - during which time they went by different names in different situations - depending on who was the first to step forward when asked! :bigsmile:


With the mercenaries today it was Luna's Grey Wardens, while not so long ago it could have been Wolf with Wild Ones :tongue:


p.s. dat logo tho... *rawrrr*
 
Oops! I totally meant to cast my vote in favor. I must have forgot. Mark me as having voted yes!
 
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