Nation Building 2028 A World of Strife (Modern)

[Archon]

[QUOTE="The Elusive Shadow]Alright I get it , but now i think we should discuss if there is any way of winning this war , the only way I see is if France backs out , taking Germany and other European countries with him

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Unless Russia does sail East, and Canada+Australia do support them, and the Anti-Russian coalition doesn't form, and France+Germany do back out. Victory is essentially not possible. Not without devastating losses that'll make playing U.K boring.


Even with the criteria met, it'll be very, very not-fun warring U.S.A, I mean throughout the RP I was of the belief they were in a similar situation to China, so IC have been repeatedly saying they aren't a superpower like they once were. I was wrong, and the U.S is completely stable despite the civil oppression, and religious discrimination.


(France and the U.S really need to suffer some sort of consequence for these imo)


TLR lose-lose situation.

I have no problem with you playing another nation. It does stink that the world turned against you. The truth is that French and British Relations where already high everyone was a little PO'ed at France for Monaco but they pulled out. But in Ireland you invaded after everyone warned you not to invade. Also this is probably reinforced by the fact you are a Dictator. Though this is not always bad It does paint you as a nefarious figure. Sorry things didn't turn out well in Britain but that's many nations fall. Feel free to change to any non played nation of your choice. I know you wouldn't but I would like to add just for future clarification when you play a new nation try not to hold grudges or previous notions based off your last country.

I have no dispute with the reasons, I agree that my declaration of war was quite weak (although only you and U.S told me not to go to war) but I mentioned in an above post that I didn't have much of a choice from an IC opinion. Still not understanding the 'dictatorship=tyrant' stuff. ;-;

 

[Elucid]

Unless Russia does sail East, and Canada+Australia do support them, and the Anti-Russian coalition doesn't form, and France+Germany do back out. Victory is essentially not possible. Not without devastating losses that'll make playing U.K boring.
Even with the criteria met, it'll be very, very not-fun warring U.S.A, I mean throughout the RP I was of the belief they were in a similar situation to China, so IC have been repeatedly saying they aren't a superpower like they once were. I was wrong, and the U.S is completely stable despite the civil oppression, and religious discrimination.


(France and the U.S really need to suffer some sort of consequence for these imo)


TLR lose-lose situation.


I have no dispute with the reasons, I agree that my declaration of war was quite weak (although only you and U.S told me not to go to war) but I mentioned in an above post that I didn't have much of a choice from an IC opinion. Still not understanding the 'dictatorship=tyrant' stuff. ;-;

Then the only way i see this turning out is maybe a white peace .

 

[lcomstock4]

Unless Russia does sail East, and Canada+Australia do support them, and the Anti-Russian coalition doesn't form, and France+Germany do back out. Victory is essentially not possible. Not without devastating losses that'll make playing U.K boring.
Even with the criteria met, it'll be very, very not-fun warring U.S.A, I mean throughout the RP I was of the belief they were in a similar situation to China, so IC have been repeatedly saying they aren't a superpower like they once were. I was wrong, and the U.S is completely stable despite the civil oppression, and religious discrimination.


(France and the U.S really need to suffer some sort of consequence for these imo)


TLR lose-lose situation.


I have no dispute with the reasons, I agree that my declaration of war was quite weak (although only you and U.S told me not to go to war) but I mentioned in an above post that I didn't have much of a choice from an IC opinion. Still not understanding the 'dictatorship=tyrant' stuff. ;-;

The US is struggling with some serious Domestic issues that have not been addressed very well and will only get worse if they do not provide a solution. France has transitioned out of Martial law and held elections and overall its people are happy. No one wants a huge bloody war especially the American people.

 

[Archon]

The US is struggling with some serious Domestic issues that have not been addressed very well and will only get worse if they do not provide a solution. France has transitioned out of Martial law and held elections and overall its people are happy. No one wants a huge bloody war especially the American people.

That's fair enough, I'll stick with it for now; but whether I change to Japan is largely dependent on France. If they join, you join. From that point...


Well, let's just say it becomes 1945 for Britain.

 

[Elucid]

That's fair enough, I'll stick with it for now; but whether I change to Japan is largely dependent on France. If they join, you join. From that point...
Well, let's just say it becomes 1945 for Britain.

Why not just get a white peace?

 

[Serenade]

I do believe a white peace would be most beneficial for both sides.

 

[Spacekitty]

Fear not fellow muslims, the Defender of the Faith shall eliminate Western oppression from our land!

 

[Archon]

@DaManofWar[/URL] doesn't seem like the negotiating type, neither does @Shireling in my case. (:'()

 

[DaManofWar]

I am willing to negotiate under the understanding Ireland goes free.

 

[Archon]

I am willing to negotiate under the understanding Ireland goes free.

No, that's not a white peace. That's a surrender, Ireland goes free > IRA attacks continue > Public turn on me> coup d'tat.


Look at this as if YOU were running the country. Maybe you'll see my predicament.

 

[lcomstock4]

Read my post it will be up in about 10 minutes

 

[DaManofWar]

I would understand better IF THE IRA WASN'T DISBANDED!

 

[Serenade]

I would say, a coalition against the IRA would be most plausible. Britain's people know there government is working hard, less people die, USA also gets the feel of MURICA by helping its ally.

 

[Shireling]

I'm also willing to negotiate. But you do understand we have the bigger gun so we get to make bigger demands. That's just statecraft.

 

[DaManofWar]

Yeah, the IRA is dead. It splintered apart.

 

[Shireling]

PIRA is a terrorist organization. The "true" IRA kind of toes the line in my opinion because "terrorism" isn't a cut-and-dry term anymore.

 

[Archon]

I would understand better IF THE IRA WASN'T DISBANDED!

No offense...


But have you ignored the mod posts?


An assassination attempt was made on my leader by a renewed IRA,supportedby the IRISH government.


You should know that, this is the future.Not reality now, China splintered, Isis grew, IRA reformed.

I'm also willing to negotiate. But you do understand we have the bigger gun so we get to make bigger demands. That's just statecraft.

I'm not accepting my surrender, or demands. White Peace or war. This is just incredibly unfair, and I'd rather do some damage and just be destroyed. Then switch countries with a grudge.

 

[lcomstock4]

Yeah, the IRA is dead. It splintered apart.

There was a resurgence in this timeline after Britain turned into a dictatorship and began militarizing. I realize your from Ireland. It seems Plausable with all the crap that has happened in the last 10 years that the IRA might reform

 

[Elucid]

Anyone see the similarities between Austria-Hungary in WW1 and UK in this RP.

 

[Archon]

@lcomstock4[/URL] made the same reference. Haha.

 

[DaManofWar]

Oh, I see.

 

[Elucid]

PIRA is a terrorist organization. The "true" IRA kind of toes the line in my opinion because "terrorism" isn't a cut-and-dry term anymore.

P.S the main goal of the IRA now could be to unite Ireland North and south? although i don't know how plausible this is considering the Catholic , Protestant divide.

 

[Shireling]

We don't want to destroy Britain. Be a good chap, now. But we would like to see her military power diminished and perhaps see North Ireland ceded to the Irish. You see, my good man, if the French help Ireland, they're indebted to us, and it could be useful to have a friend across the Channel. So you see, old sport, it's nothing personal. We wouldn't like to see London burn. But war is war, you see. Atrocities do happen.

 

[Elucid]

We don't want to destroy Britain. Be a good chap, now. But we would like to see her military power diminished and perhaps see North Ireland ceded to the Irish. You see, my good man, if the French help Ireland, they're indebted to us, and it could be useful to have a frien

Ok let's just take a deep breath and relax before taking any rash decisions....

 

[Shireling]

I'm sure Canada will take your government in exile if it comes to that.