Experiences Whats making you angry today? Rp pet peeves

[Soot]

You know, I thought that initially but I figured that someone who was dealing with so many in real life issues wouldn't be thinking about logging on to some rp site. I know I wouldn't, I've dealt with shitty, stressful situations and the last thing on my mind is this site. No, I'm talking about the folks that are obviously online on a continuous basis, and you know, using the site. That is a clear sign that I am not interesting to them and they decide to go full on danny phantom on me. Okay, I guess. It happens. But... damn it's happened 5 times to me in the last month, so I'm starting to think I'm the problem. One thing that really shits on my buttered toast is the people that say they're interested, pm you, shoot some messages back and forth then I never see them again. Before the roleplay begins. They've never seen my roleplay style before to realize that it ain't for them, they just ghost before it's even had a chance to begin. What's up with that?
Oh, and my posts. I feel like an aging prostitute. Everyone looks, but I have no clients, if you catch my drift. That is further pushing my belief that I'm the problem. Maybe it means I'm a shitty writer, or roleplayer, whatever.

It's probably bad luck more than anything, but if you do believe that it might be your fault, then you could try changing how you would normally approach someone PM-ing you. Test out different methods and see which one succeeds. As for people ghosting, I think it's usually they ...:
1. Like the sound of certain plots but then lose interest incredibly fast
2. Like the sound of certain plots but actually don't want to write it
3. Get busy
4. Forget
5. Realize they don't want to rp with you based on OOC interaction
6. Some other reason ?

As for the 'everyone looks' issue, I gotta say I'm sort of guilty of this. I tend to click on everything and back out 2 seconds later if it's not what I'm looking for. And then sometimes I click the same interest check multiple times because I forgot that I already checked it out. Also if you find that you don't have a lot of people responding, it may be because your interest is too niche?

 

[rae2nerdy]

You know, I thought that initially but I figured that someone who was dealing with so many in real life issues wouldn't be thinking about logging on to some rp site. I know I wouldn't, I've dealt with shitty, stressful situations and the last thing on my mind is this site. No, I'm talking about the folks that are obviously online on a continuous basis, and you know, using the site. That is a clear sign that I am not interesting to them and they decide to go full on danny phantom on me. Okay, I guess. It happens. But... damn it's happened 5 times to me in the last month, so I'm starting to think I'm the problem. One thing that really shits on my buttered toast is the people that say they're interested, pm you, shoot some messages back and forth then I never see them again. Before the roleplay begins. They've never seen my roleplay style before to realize that it ain't for them, they just ghost before it's even had a chance to begin. What's up with that?
Oh, and my posts. I feel like an aging prostitute. Everyone looks, but I have no clients, if you catch my drift. That is further pushing my belief that I'm the problem. Maybe it means I'm a shitty writer, or roleplayer, whatever.

People cope with stress in different ways. I mean I’m in the middle of a stressful situation and I’m still on the site after all.

Plus your honestly describing how 99% of roleplay interactions go. It’s the same for everyone. So unless we’re all shitty writers that everyone hates I think it’s safe to say it’s not personal.

 

[Daisie]

You know, I thought that initially but I figured that someone who was dealing with so many in real life issues wouldn't be thinking about logging on to some rp site. I know I wouldn't, I've dealt with shitty, stressful situations and the last thing on my mind is this site. No, I'm talking about the folks that are obviously online on a continuous basis, and you know, using the site. That is a clear sign that I am not interesting to them and they decide to go full on danny phantom on me. Okay, I guess. It happens. But... damn it's happened 5 times to me in the last month, so I'm starting to think I'm the problem. One thing that really shits on my buttered toast is the people that say they're interested, pm you, shoot some messages back and forth then I never see them again. Before the roleplay begins. They've never seen my roleplay style before to realize that it ain't for them, they just ghost before it's even had a chance to begin. What's up with that?
Oh, and my posts. I feel like an aging prostitute. Everyone looks, but I have no clients, if you catch my drift. That is further pushing my belief that I'm the problem. Maybe it means I'm a shitty writer, or roleplayer, whatever.

Yo! This sounds like the thread for you. You're not alone - everyone goes through this process at some point or another.

Other - "Why won't anyone roleplay with me?"

Or, "Why do I keep getting ghosted? Should I quit roleplaying? Is it just not for me? Is there something wrong with me?" Etc. I keep seeing a lot of ya'll getting discouraged and, heck, a lot of times I get discouraged while RP partner searching too. It's frustrating to plan out a roleplay, get...

www.rpnation.com

 

[Reid]

It's probably bad luck more than anything, but if you do believe that it might be your fault, then you could try changing how you would normally approach someone PM-ing you. Test out different methods and see which one succeeds. As for people ghosting, I think it's usually they ...:
1. Like the sound of certain plots but then lose interest incredibly fast
2. Like the sound of certain plots but actually don't want to write it
3. Get busy
4. Forget
5. Realize they don't want to rp with you based on OOC interaction
6. Some other reason ?

As for the 'everyone looks' issue, I gotta say I'm sort of guilty of this. I tend to click on everything and back out 2 seconds later if it's not what I'm looking for. And then sometimes I click the same interest check multiple times because I forgot that I already checked it out. Also if you find that you don't have a lot of people responding, it may be because your interest is too niche?

then what am I supposed to do? roleplay HS plots? same old thing? Give them a bj?
I've been roleplaying for quite a while. I've never experienced such blatant horrible "bad luck" before lol.

 

[still watching fma]

Kazami42 not to be presumptious, but perhaps having visuals will help. There are plenty of map making softwares out there that can help visualize the advance of an army and portray terrain, elevation, etc.

Second, you should probably test people's understanding of history and military stuff. I actually loved my ww1 class in college, but even then, with my understanding of how hard it was to move men, material, and guns by horseback. I won't even pretend to understand the procedures for marching an army across europe. So perhaps, try getting a feel for people's understanding first. Then adjust the realism based on what they understand.

 

[Crayons]

OK, so I'm not angry about this, but more disappointed and upset.

When one toxic player enters an RP community and fucks it all up for everyone. Like manages to cause complete discord just by existing. I was so glad when this person left, now they have come back and it's like ... ugh. Bye bye group harmony, hello chaos.

They are also a really bad roleplayer so there's no real upsides. :/

 

[Soot]

then what am I supposed to do? roleplay HS plots? same old thing? Give them a bj?
I've been roleplaying for quite a while. I've never experienced such blatant horrible "bad luck" before lol.

Well, as I said perhaps you could try and change up how you would normally respond to someone who PM-ed you? When you said you've never experienced such horrible 'bad luck', that makes me think that this may just be a rough patch for the moment, since it means normally you don't see this situation. I don't mean to imply you have to change your interests; I meant that you will probably have to wait longer to get the right person. That thread about "Why won't anyone roleplay with me" could also be helpful. I don't know what else to say since you've probably rp-ed longer than I have, but I wish you luck in the future either way.

 

[Kazami42]

Kazami42 not to be presumptious, but perhaps having visuals will help. There are plenty of map making softwares out there that can help visualize the advance of an army and portray terrain, elevation, etc.

Second, you should probably test people's understanding of history and military stuff. I actually loved my ww1 class in college, but even then, with my understanding of how hard it was to move men, material, and guns by horseback. I won't even pretend to understand the procedures for marching an army across europe. So perhaps, try getting a feel for people's understanding first. Then adjust the realism based on what they understand.

Gonna take some of your examples fully and literally here, so here we go.
Could probably work but on RPN I haven't been in any WWI RP unless you count what felt like five minutes before the rifles and runes GM upped the cap to 1920. Similar even with my altered form of resonance. Most my problems arise from the modern, then futuristic setting. In WoT I it originally was a post apocalyptic setting that for whatever reason technology didn't recover for a thousand years. About page five the most problematic guy killed off another player and developed hover tanks and mega lazers. The map one I was planning to do but all I know is pretty much just using Google maps and drawing on it. Don't know anything about the terrain stuff, unless you mean like one of those county maps where you change the color to signify where mountains, hills, and desert are.

Quite literally the problem at least for that one being "I don't find it necessary." Because they didnt find RP essentials necessary so everyone could understand what was going on, it was a clustertruck of pain and sadness, and what equated to what most people think WWI was. The only person IC intentionally being outdated with it was a certain other global territory power, who was having fun amphibious WWIIing the guy. Was pretty neat. Don't even get me started on the certain someone that writes their navy on the CS as "has a navy" then expects everyone to be okay with it in an engagement when they never state anything actually attacking you outside the summarized infantry amount. So its impossible to moderate it without seeming biased to the other guy. At least a semi-idea of what's involved the other guy may add maybe once, then list it and any casualties that should transpire during engagement as unnecessary. That alone makes me diagonal and upside down.

The realism involved that I mentioned is usually personal and I don't control those RPs. The only ones I've created or had the direct job of altering fundamentals was Resonance and whenever I make the third World of Tomorrow when Dom returns in around three months. IE: Bobette69 creates superanium that glows red and is used for bullet proof shields. Whereas Bobb bobberson creates Hartatite, which has the characteristics of a hydrocarbon, but works better as fuel for an engine that has an ungodly disastrous effect if ignited. I don't really care what others invent up there because just making things up is the point. At least in things like R&R.. Though technically the resonance one could be viewed as a WWI-esque thing, but that would of eventually reached a max cap of maybe 1945.

But when I see someone wanting to be authentic or creating such an RP setting, then making UFOs dressed up like a Panther tank, a mark IV, or a godbrams, it really grinds my planetary gears. If you say you have done any level of research, and then does the complete opposite on everything with it, then I refuse to dumb myself down to support that frankenstein's beast. I also don't support trying to kill or destroy everything in existence in one shot, then trying to get everyone to follow that ideal. Everything isn't just some MAC with the high explosive power of slamming a planet into it. I'd get more milage out of literally slamming another planet into the Earth. But I agree on the point that not everyone understands everything or exactly, but I'd more so build upon that while adjusting. IE helping them if they want and teach, but keep it at the adjusted level with potential increase over time to coincide with the learning if utilized.

Though I don't got problems with people that are actually trying and makes mistakes, even if it gets frequent. My line is drawn on damn dirty lies, several factors like the quality can be identifiers. Another being they spend half an hour yelling at you how something works, but they end up being worse with it, if they even remotely know what it is to begin with. Drawn here and no farther. It is like a game company saying they don't have those cursed lootamabobbers, and then forces you to buy one just to play the game. Or what happened to our glorious fallout with 76. My gears be grinding so fast, they are making up etch-a-sketch patterns.

 

[Kazami42]

Not so much I don't want to say a lot of these because I'd feel like a prick, but more so the RPs could continue without some troglodyte fucking it up. Usually worked. Also a lot of it is profane beyond acceptable limits to me due to accumulated rage over years and those events. Below are what I wrote in documents during the respective timeframes. I like these vent threads. Didn't have an outlet until now.

-1:Listen here you little shit, I don't care for your ideals or false entitlements. I created this goddamn RP, I made this map which you fucked up because of how you felt, I made this name that you so gleefully tried to fucking steal from me. All you've done is fuck up my work, had several players be driven off or rethink joining, imposing unapproved CS restrictions, and having the motherfucking gall to tell everyone that there was no head GM. I used to like you before you became this miserable piece of shit that makes it hard to ever take them seriously.

Pretty much everything you say is or includes a meme, you practically passively aggressively strike at the entire community, you fucking lie. What the hell happened to you? I'm am absolutely done dealing with your shit, your mod status is revoked, fuck off until you've learned to be better. ~Prior to Resonance's death. I still removed the roles from their discord, but never posted the message. Still gave whom I'll nickname Dankfort their own little rant in the form of parodying lyrics to the beat of the SAW theme. They chose to leave because "If Danzelwadadadingdong is gone, I'm gone." Believing DWDDD here was somehow the best mod we had. Not surprising behavior. Reverted back to the previous mod choices.

-2: How brainwashed are your people? How mind blowing incompetent are your high command? Everyone here is telling you that your destroying yourself. How in the hell can every single person in your fucking country watch you mindlessly throw their lives away, and still want to pridefully join your military or remain patriotic? How does your mega reliant super bots create resources out of thin air to replace every single piece of equipment, vehicle, ammo, and body protection that you keep blowing off every time you send hundreds of millions to die? How can you maintain this continental line with no weak points, and just blow off people's offensives in one post?

How can you stay up or not fall into revolution when you abandon most of your people after killing them off, radiating them all, forcing them and your own troops to get bam-blasted by landmines, you wasting all the taxpayer's money on air assaults that get taken down before reaching their targets and doing it repeatedly with no change? You're fighting against the world. You are too fucking illusioned that you're an indestructible hyperpower. Just surrender and whatever remains of you doesn't get fucked. ~Relatively more recently prior to RP death.

-3: Come on man, we told you once before. You can't just keep one-shotting every unit that marches into the arena. I don't care if you have this anti-magic god power, it doesn't affect self bodily manipulation and enhancement. These units are tiered up directly with you. If you keep doing this, I'm just going to critically maim your character for blatant godmodding and power gaming. ~During the Luxum RP. Instead, what happened was portions of this were recycled as standalone responses. It certainly didn't stop the guy though. I literally planned sending him and one other guy into a hellscape to fight endless waves of super demons, until they either died or submitted to authority. The other for trying to invent gunpowder and actual cannons/cannonball launchers. In the end, I think both these hard of reading dunces tried making up the black/gunpowder. Everyone in that RP was a stubborn hard ass on one thing or another, and I never signed up to be the head GM but got forced into it. So I'm glad it died.

The necroliker/poster strikes again y'all. Western front represent.

 

[BackSet]

There's one thing I have never, ever said, not because it would be rude, but because it's always in someone elses rp so I feel like I'm overstepping my bounds.

GM, Start! Enforcing! Your! Rules!

I've seen countless rps that died because the gm refused to enforce their own rules. You said one liners aren't allowed and that guy's doing one liners. I'm not saying outright kick him from the rp but talk to him about how he's breaking the rules or give him a warning or something. If he keeps doing it, then you should kick him out of the rp.

 

[Kazami42]

There's one thing I have never, ever said, not because it would be rude, but because it's always in someone elses rp so I feel like I'm overstepping my bounds.

GM, Start! Enforcing! Your! Rules!

I've seen countless rps that died because the gm refused to enforce their own rules. You said one liners aren't allowed and that guy's doing one liners. I'm not saying outright kick him from the rp but talk to him about how he's breaking the rules or give him a warning or something. If he keeps doing it, then you should kick him out of the rp.

If I'm allowed to technically interject without breaking the point and flow of the thread:

You'd be merely exercising valid concerns for change. It is the real GM's job to prop up the RP and pay attention to the community at least, with any backup mods to help enforce rules, mechanics, and assure/ensure that progression and minimal disruption takes place. Failure of this by all means, is perfectly legal for the player base to voice their unrest. If they're too stupid to pay attention or they're too panicked to do anything, it is their fault. Exceptions for times where GMs especially are overburdened or life makes them too busy. Then the blame gets refocused on the support hands/mods. Because of the unlikely event of all mods being exactly busy all at the same time, and with the same reason, at least one of them will be in charge and capable. If they have no idea what they're doing or refuse to take action, they are an absolute failure at their job.

 

[Kazami42]

When someone seems interested in RPing with you in a message, and while you try doing a response the internet says "nope" and never shows you posted. Thus you create a new message from the copy and pasted with an addendum, and when it posts, RPN shows the original response as well and you've effectively spammed someone's inbox. Then getting overly embarrassed about it, and feeling obligated to apologize to them for the annoyance caused. [Also apologizing to anyone that might get irked that I made this, and already had the last post. Sorry.]

 

[still watching fma]

Could probably work but on RPN I haven't been in any WWI RP unless you count what felt like five minutes before the rifles and runes GM upped the cap to 1920. Similar even with my altered form of resonance. Most my problems arise from the modern, then futuristic setting. In WoT I it originally was a post apocalyptic setting that for whatever reason technology didn't recover for a thousand years. About page five the most problematic guy killed off another player and developed hover tanks and mega lazers. The map one I was planning to do but all I know is pretty much just using Google maps and drawing on it. Don't know anything about the terrain stuff, unless you mean like one of those county maps where you change the color to signify where mountains, hills, and desert are.

Haha 5 pages, dang where are you rping? Most rp's I've tried to join got shot down after character creation. However if you want links to map making software I can show you stuff in pm. I don't want people thinking I'm shilling or something. I just love using them in my own rp's personally. Sounds like a cool setting though and one where someone can die? Wow.

But when I see someone wanting to be authentic or creating such an RP setting, then making UFOs dressed up like a Panther tank, a mark IV, or a godbrams, it really grinds my planetary gears. If you say you have done any level of research, and then does the complete opposite on everything with it, then I refuse to dumb myself down to support that frankenstein's beast. I also don't support trying to kill or destroy everything in existence in one shot, then trying to get everyone to follow that ideal. Everything isn't just some MAC with the high explosive power of slamming a planet into it. I'd get more milage out of literally slamming another planet into the Earth. But I agree on the point that not everyone understands everything or exactly, but I'd more so build upon that while adjusting. IE helping them if they want and teach, but keep it at the adjusted level with potential increase over time to coincide with the learning if utilized.

Although it was bleach, our rp'ers on a dead and gone forum used to spend time trying to one up eachother. But why would they even want ww2 tanks of that caliber? A panther is arguably a servicable tank, but the germans made them too heavy and complicated...prone to breaking. Also...ufo and realism? LOLOLOL

Though I don't got problems with people that are actually trying and makes mistakes, even if it gets frequent. My line is drawn on damn dirty lies, several factors like the quality can be identifiers. Another being they spend half an hour yelling at you how something works, but they end up being worse with it, if they even remotely know what it is to begin with. Drawn here and no farther. It is like a game company saying they don't have those cursed lootamabobbers, and then forces you to buy one just to play the game. Or what happened to our glorious fallout with 76. My gears be grinding so fast, they are making up etch-a-sketch patterns.

I'm sorry for not responding to everything. I was lost at certain points. But I found parts of it interesting lol. I think with rp, you just need structure. I've had no issues with DnD because its well organized. No need to worry about people one shotting the earth or being too weak to have fun. Because of the systems in place. though fallout 76....to invoke it which shall not be named must have made that experience terrible lol. Yelling though, are you doing this stuff in person and fighting with people lol

 

[Kazami42]

Haha 5 pages, dang where are you rping? Most rp's I've tried to join got shot down after character creation. However if you want links to map making software I can show you stuff in pm. I don't want people thinking I'm shilling or something. I just love using them in my own rp's personally. Sounds like a cool setting though and one where someone can die? Wow.


Although it was bleach, our rp'ers on a dead and gone forum used to spend time trying to one up eachother. But why would they even want ww2 tanks of that caliber? A panther is arguably a servicable tank, but the germans made them too heavy and complicated...prone to breaking. Also...ufo and realism? LOLOLOL


I'm sorry for not responding to everything. I was lost at certain points. But I found parts of it interesting lol. I think with rp, you just need structure. I've had no issues with DnD because its well organized. No need to worry about people one shotting the earth or being too weak to have fun. Because of the systems in place. though fallout 76....to invoke it which shall not be named must have made that experience terrible lol. Yelling though, are you doing this stuff in person and fighting with people lol

World of Tomorrow the first one got up to 100 pages if congress and other posts weren't deleted. The second chronologically but actually third RP also got beyond five pages before a someone bugged off and we removed it [about 7.]. It would of proceeded if another certain someone didn't kill it by refusing to respond. The second RP which was a spinoff got about three pages. The rifles and runes series I think also got over five, but that might just be the original. Those are pretty much my community on RPN's entire titles in nation building. Everyone has a passion, but goddamn do they sometimes make me want to occupy them and change their anthem to a meme song, and do ventriloquist acts with their leaders. Not everyone, but some of them. As to the last one, I've noticed RPN at least for some of its stuff isnt up to date in the scene. How can you guys tolerate some dude being inkillable at all times? Or any larger RP mostly having one player behind a state? Also to the map tech sure, as long as I ain't gotta pay some odd sub or something. I need all my money reserved for life itself.

[My device is being stupid so I can't make a spoiler outside of edits to stuff this all in. This is the response to the mid section of your post, not really pertinent to the main discussion at hand. Just a thing added because nobody else discusses this stuff.]
I'd more so say the Panther was under-engineered with some overly complicated rubbish added in them. Like the interleaved-overlap wheels. Sure it helps with ground pressure and mobility, but you got to like remove 2 wheels for one, and if the system is fubar that is 6 just to replace/get rid of the one section. This effectively combined with I believe an overburdened transmission or something, resulted in what I assume making everyone trying to replace it probably wanting to kill themselves over the frequency of it all. Side armor was goobadegook. But while never really ironed out, the problems were addressed and others worked around later. Also counting Germany having all sorts of resource problems, any elite crews already assigned to things like Tigers or dead, and a lot of the armor even later on was finicky for all tanks at best because of resource problems, Panthers and more sensible designs like later panzer IVs were doomed to become garbage regardless. I can't really say anything on the weight front, but with how inefficient German factories and all were, they can't exactly overwhelm anyone with any particular type of tank. They merely chose to make more relatively sensible designs for a job like the panther and smaller, IE later panzer IVs, but also got wrangled to make stupid shit like the Tiger II and maus. They couldn't support it and most like the panther was rushed and never resolved, but they made "bigger" and relatively endurant designs to deal with the defensive needs. I say going with the other design of the panther may of been better. Albeit move the turret back abit.

You don't need speed or much mobility if all you have to do is sit there and make sure the other guy can't flank you. They lost air superiority and got swarmed, but most heavier tanks were still blown up by themselves than other powers. Also, as long as the crew is skilled enough, and granted it gets to battle and can still move like turning, it really doesn't matter, especially in 44+, what tank it is. Another issue being even if they had the resources, they didn't have enough crews to man tanks. The panther is the most practical larger design they had, even if only slightly more mobile than the Tiger I. That makes a difference, but you won't see summarizers and basics caring about that. If the panzer IV didn't reach their limits, and didn't become pretty much obsolete around at most later 43, more of those would be better than both these two fuel hogs. Lol. If the war continued, The Pershing if fixed, Centurion, and I believe IS-3s would of all wiped the floor with the Germans regardless of how big, small, wide, spheroid, obtuse, drunken redneck on a rocket powered recliner, or advanced the tank would be. At that point just armoring up was useless, material sciences were being more thoroughly looked into, and shell designs weren't too far away from being able to break even a maus at standard combat ranges.

American 76mm shermans could already fuck up a tiger I frontally without being bizzarely close like everyone else. But don't tell the Wehraboos that. It's the reason why every vehicle or anti-tank gun of similar caliber was chosen as higher priority than all the swarms of weaker ones. Like most if not all British cruiser tanks and 75mm earlier model shermans for example. Then of course crews for Tiger Is at least could also angle themselves to make it harder to screw with. I don't see how the same crew with a Panther couldn't do just as well if not better. Granted the latter if they simplified it. It was already good enough for damn near 6,000 to be made. You also must account tanks this big were meant and more effective on the Eastern front, whereas smaller ones like panzer IVs were superior to the west and the bocage and all. Thus if one argues picking a tank, one has to account for the situation it'll be used in. Tigers, Panthers, Etc are pretty much comedic in denser, thinner, smaller environments. They also can't use their weapon's range advantage there most of the time. Thus a proper argument for any tank cannot be had unless the field and other statistics used are taken into account. Making discussions like this is also just fun to do in general. Even if a third party gets in to make up random gibberish just to keep it going. Too bad I can't do the same with most of my group on here.
[Midsection over. will maybe replace with a spoiler if applicable, to lower size of post.]

Also for the last response bit no, it's more so being hyper aggressive in written form or full on capslocking me thinking I'll be intimidated. I can't take them seriously in military matters in general, since they can pretty much be wiped out by a guy with a thousand infantry just casually walking into their occupations and then home country, effectively blasting them to bits because apparently the only way this "badass know it all" knows how to fight is wave charging them, or power and godmodding. Then they think they are so powerful that they can dictate how a person Roleplays. It's quite amusing actually. Like Monty python levels. Though sometimes I do wish it was a physical confrontation. I certainly would get more out of it than having to play silent, because they're too stubborn to listen and intentionally "ignoring" me unless the threat of force is involved. That part in quotations because they actually wait for a response to their nonsense and keeps making themselves look weird.

IE them: "Your cannon is too powerful, lower range naaaooooo." Me: "This is the weapon's actual maximum effective firing range enhanced by a fin stabilizer to keep the projectile relatively on point. It utilizes sensors such as thermal imaging as well as the ability to use standard optics to aim." Them: "So if I blow up this sensor, you cannot kill me?" Me etc etc: "No. They can still traverse the turret, aim, elevate the barrel, reload, and engage. All you're doing is pissing it off and getting rid of the main method of sighting." "Then I'll just hack your shell so you can't hit me accurately." "The round isn't even guided by itself." "Then I'll just stuff a grenade down your barrel" "Tanks go into combat supported by infantry, other vehicles, and at times air cover. Have fun." "Your tanks move slowly because of your heavy armor and size though, how?" "The main battle tank utilizes a variety of light armor schemes combined with external add ons. IE like ERA externally, and supported by spaced armor. They retain as high to higher speeds than most if not all tanks before it because, following the Abrams, utilizing [insert any modern turbine engine type here.] And the armor scheme. The transmission is designed to handle a set weight and has additional options than the tanks you are thinking of. It has a superior reverse gear, usually more than one depending, that could out speed them. The armor technically is designed around a disintegration premise as a consequence." "So if I hit this ERA a second time your tank will just die?" "You would have to hit the general spot you did last time, get closer, a bigger weapon system, or get lucky such as with a potential shot trap to bypass it." And goes on and on until I feel like wanting to bash my head into a wall, or they finally stop themselves.

Sometimes this still happened even at points where they could just as easily launched RPGs from the rooftops into the weaker top armor, and just wiping it without a problem. Mind you, imagine this dialogue being less civilized as time goes on, and appears more targeting to try and find out how to exploit it and wipe me overall than being honest to god questions, concerns, and for progression. But I didn't just tell them to fuck off because one of the few to do it at the time wasn't even an adult yet. I hope that if we meet again they at least have the courtesy to either be more civilized, or look less like they're just fighting me to try and find a way to kill me or get me in trouble so they can win by default.

And to end this response off: a reliable or adaptive system can again work, but these guys aren't the normal. They'd pretty much, at least for this one continuation to be, keep going with it until somebody goes "Hey, he can't just walk through there, I have a megajigawatt 9,000 super death ray that should make them dance to death when hit! REVOLT REVOLT REVOLT!" Not a literal example but you get the gist. It only works up until something goes against their personal vision of how their stuff works in their ideals, and anything trying to alter that is a threat apparently to them and must be exterminated. Luckily out the whole group, there is only one person that can try to do that now. Most certainly get themselves obliterated by moderation, but they'd still be a pain. One time they thought a perfectly fine event conducted entirely IC had to be known to them first. They rather than easily resolve it such as an assassinated that isn't botched, threatened leaving the RP over it. [Which after others seeing them as completely insufferable, actually begged at one instance.] They never did leave, but apparently they thought one should be giving them an opportunity to pull a "Nuking the fruitvan" maneuver and have the chance to OOC ignore everything they don't like, when you don't actually have to inform them. A similar event happened later, focused this time on a potential candidate for royalty, and to a different person. They equally so freaked out, and was explained that is not how any of this works at all. They have since mostly matured from that horrific display.

But it is harder to work around or moderate when one of them rule multiple purely local continents, and mindlessly loves throwing hundreds of millions of people to their death to achieve the smallest of objectives. Of course losing a what we can now confirm is at least a billion+, technologically nerfed to be militarily equivalent as the rest of the player base, etc lessens their shenanigans, but there will always be that guardian bond of being "MEIN FIRST" that will make them believe they are either indestructible, always in a position of power such as negotiation when they're clearly losing, or because of the first installment, feeling that their technology should be better than it actually is.

For the tech portion, outside him there is one other player that has a 50/50 of doing that but just with the Navy. The former would most likely do it with everything. Thus two people at least have to be consistently watched over or even moderated to prevent them throwing out story just to try and one up the other guy. This is why I like a RPer named Dom, they don't give a shit if they are intentionally or accidentally underpowered, prefers storyline, and is knowledgeable enough to use even the worst assets available to successfully defend themselves from a warmongerer. While the system would work, I have to go more in depth to keep the .1% from being able to do whatever if I can't be there. I even made a dice and health system for military assets, so regardless of if one or both go "MEIN IST BETTER", they'll only ever succeed based on their own merit and what's available. This making their super gondola of ghandi might mute. Though I do admit a unit training, limit, and mobilization system was invented up specifically to prevent loopholes being exploited by that one guy. It only annoys me that I have to wait three months before I can deploy the RP. So I'm just going to test it in other ways to prepare for when it finally happens.

The lack of nation builder players, or at least ones with a more of a passion for it makes it difficult, because most the RPs I've been in had my group propping it up, even when ruled by terribly incompetent mods. All I usually find are those that focus too much on personal or foreign developments, and the other type are pretty much warmongerers in waiting. A few years ago one of my guys said it was because to them "Everyone that is good are in the hosted projects" and those sometimes seemed to be more of a pain to use than it was worth depending on what project we all intended going in on. So we just accepted to stay where we were and wade through the growing diversity as time passed. Interestingly enough, at least to me it seemed as if everyone that had a true passion for it were fantasy and magic RPers. At least they tended to be more unique, and one even drew up their own firearms and resources. If there were more of them, making longer lasting NB RPs on this site and experimental sandboxes would be easier, and I could test the system properly without having to hide out in my conversations with one other person. But I guess it wouldn't be fair maybe, if people joined and enjoyed a RP only to learn it's mere existence was to test mechanics. But that's pretty much what I and some friends used to do elsewhere when applicable. At least there though it could get an actual sequel and real RP if people wanted it. Not having pre-tested and rigid mechanics is one of the various ways some of our RPs like R&R died. Though that one more so also died because it was in a perpetual state of having no idea what to do with it.

I apologize if this response seemed more like a rambling drone than anything. I only really got to do it at 1:35 AM. I keep talking, even if I don't have the intention to go over a certain point. Also I don't mind if you don't respond to everything. Alot is more like a vent history book, not really intended to be discussed but could be. Could be read, but not really necessary. I suppose it's harder though when the post isn't itself also structured. Or something. I'm just going to go back to sleep lol.

 

[Damafaud]

Me: So Bob moves to the forest.

"My character hid a magic trap there. She activated it remotely."

Me: Reads back on previous posts When did you say she put the trap? I can't find the post that says it.

"I just did."

Me: Yes, but that was after I put Bob in the forest.

"Whatever lmao. Don't roleplay with me if you don't like my bad writing."

No Karen your writing isn't bad BUT YOU CAN'T PUT A MAGIC TRAP OUT OF NOWHERE JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT MY CHARACTER TO BE TRAPPED AND NOT CHASE HER
I'm more upset he doesn't get why I'm mad than the fact he sprung a trap out of nowhere. We're roleplaying not solo writing. You can't make an action is done in retrospect and gives none of the others any opportunity to react to it. It's cheating.

 

[rae2nerdy]

Me: So Bob moves to the forest.

"My character hid a magic trap there. She activated it remotely."

Me: Reads back on previous posts When did you say she put the trap? I can't find the post that says it.

"I just did."

Me: Yes, but that was after I put Bob in the forest.

"Whatever lmao. Don't roleplay with me if you don't like my bad writing."

No Karen your writing isn't bad BUT YOU CAN'T PUT A MAGIC TRAP OUT OF NOWHERE JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT MY CHARACTER TO BE TRAPPED AND NOT CHASE HER
I'm more upset he doesn't get why I'm mad than the fact he sprung a trap out of nowhere. We're roleplaying not solo writing. You can't make an action is done in retrospect and gives none of the others any opportunity to react to it. It's cheating.

If he’s genuinely not getting it do the same thing. Just say Bob put some kind of failsafe on his character that is activated when the trap is sprung and causes his character to be paralyzed/incapacitated/killed off/whatever.

Then just be like “Well the roleplay is over because your character can’t do anything.”

And if he tries to reverse engineer his way out of it say that your action is non-reversable and keep reiterating that his character can’t do anything and the roleplay is over.

That should get the point across.

 

[CecilDMMasters]

Me: So Bob moves to the forest.

"My character hid a magic trap there. She activated it remotely."

Me: Reads back on previous posts When did you say she put the trap? I can't find the post that says it.

"I just did."

Me: Yes, but that was after I put Bob in the forest.

"Whatever lmao. Don't roleplay with me if you don't like my bad writing."

No Karen your writing isn't bad BUT YOU CAN'T PUT A MAGIC TRAP OUT OF NOWHERE JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT MY CHARACTER TO BE TRAPPED AND NOT CHASE HER
I'm more upset he doesn't get why I'm mad than the fact he sprung a trap out of nowhere. We're roleplaying not solo writing. You can't make an action is done in retrospect and gives none of the others any opportunity to react to it. It's cheating.

Yeah, that is annoying. I've been in that exact same scenario plus many that fall under that concept. The main reason people have done that are

Playing by ear/not planning actual story.
Want to play a scene out in their head and don't want it ruined by the other person playing their character in character. So don't give a chance to argue.
They are just power playing and know that if they set up a trick you will have the character notice and if they try to say anything you will be able to legit argue why that wouldn't work on that character.

Like with a hidden trap being played on a character that was already explained to be a thief trap setter themselves.

 

[Damafaud]

If he’s genuinely not getting it do the same thing. Just say Bob put some kind of failsafe on his character that is activated when the trap is sprung and causes his character to be paralyzed/incapacitated/killed off/whatever.

Then just be like “Well the roleplay is over because your character can’t do anything.”

And if he tries to reverse engineer his way out of it say that your action is non-reversable and keep reiterating that his character can’t do anything and the roleplay is over.

That should get the point across.

We compromised at the end by saying the trap (it's actually a demon summoning circle) isn't exactly where my character is but other part of the forest so the demon is summoned a bit far.

He doesn't say sorry, but the issue kinda pass and I'll only look sour if I bring that back up.

 

[rae2nerdy]

We compromised at the end by saying the trap (it's actually a demon summoning circle) isn't exactly where my character is but other part of the forest so the demon is summoned a bit far.

He doesn't say sorry, but the issue kinda pass and I'll only look sour if I bring that back up.

I wouldn’t say you look sour, it’s a serious issue and if they genuinely don’t understand the problem than the only way they’re going to learn to be better is if you put it in terms they’ll understand. Some people only learn something is bad when it negatively effects them.

And if you don’t nip it in the bud now you’ll just breed resentment. And honestly if they are the kind of person you don’t feel comfortable giving constructive criticism and you have to walk on eggshells around than the roleplay is going to get old fast.

no one wants to feel like they can’t enjoy themselves because their partner is going to be an ass if things don’t go their way.

 

[FoolsErin]

Dude, I know you well enough that it’s great that you’re able to vent through roleplaying. But is there any chance whatsoever that you could tone it down just a smidge? Please? Because I’m getting a more than a little sick of you mutilating this character’s personality just so you can let all the feels out every post. It’s kinda raining on my parade a little seeing suicidal thoughts every other paragraph.

Can’t say this because I think it‘d really hurt the person in question’s feelings, but it’s been in my mind for a while with the last two roleplays we were in together. I really appreciate that he’s able to release these feelings because he’s mentioned multiple times that he’s stressed a lot and all, but he really could’ve cooled his jets a bit with how much it was.

 

[Lil Shirou]

The most recent thing to upset me is someone plagiarizing mine and another's character sheet to create their own and only minorly changed it. Like dont rip my backstory, and personality and then call me salty because I dont want to be your partner or call you out on it.

Instead of feeding into it. I copied the cs to workshop and deleted it.

 

[M.J. Saulnier]

• If you have to have total creative freedom over the plot at all times or you complain that it's not fun, you're not a real story teller, you're a hobbyist writer, so kindly excuse yourself from this story, and take your over-used, ultimately uninteresting plug & play character with you.

• No, quirkiness and a withdrawn, introverted writing style does not make your character interesting, but rather an awkward oddball that feels as though it doesn't belong in the story.

• Have you used that character before?

• Make a unique character for a unique story, or do a spin-off.

• If your character got punched in the throat, they wouldn't be able to talk shit right now, so rewrite that post or go join a Naruto RP.

• So how do you see this character logically contributing to the story?

 

[still watching fma]

I wonder if someone has said, " we dont care because we only care about what you say". Because I certainly dont care if you're not going to speak up.

Just a random thought

 

[rae2nerdy]

No honey I’m not being a demanding shrew because I expect you to use your big person words and stand up for yourself.

(it’s kind of shitty to say it out loud but boy do I think it sometimes)

 

[Kazami42]

When you talk about or have something the other person or unrelated parties don't like, then all of a sudden you get a "So in a way, you're forgiven", when you haven't done anything. Might I ask why I have to be the one to be forgiven? If you don't like a media or piece of technology it is better to talk about it, or not try shoving your dislike down my throat and I have to be the one to apologize. Stated by a party that slowly started to shun their own likes because of the existence of somebody else.

This happened a few years ago, around late 2016 - 17 I believe. Me and a few friends on a discord used as a community server and RP ooc were discussing RP history of the factions, talking about topics from how one is overly anime and another was a hyper authoritarian state with a domination fetish for technical vassals. These shenanigans upon me practically came up out of nowhere when another person said "why does Kaz get off free?". When I was one of the few actually contributing storyline beyond trying to one up or kill someone else, and arguably the most detailed and IC entity in the entire RP, before self development was equaled or even rivaled by south america. Because someone didn't like how my look was, I'm apparently worthy of being a target without merit.

Was super cringy and awkward for the following ten minutes as we all sort of just skimmed past that. Doesn't really make me angry, but more so a little irked. Probably would of actually of been a funny moment if one party I will call "Shadow" and the other "Karen", didn't respectively be a sellout and the other taking it so seriously. Shadow selling out to state my forgiveness, the other just being not a fan but over the years continually bringing up a dislike over and over again periodically. Even then though, it is still relatively humorous with how it actually happened. I'd more so say this is probably one of my more pettier irks.