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[Hall Kervean]

I think that what hitler did was shitty and that if I could run a facist country I could do shit tons more than hitler did. i wouldnt TRY to exterminate a race, I WOULD exterminate a race.

I hope you mean a species of deadly spiders...

 

[t e r m i n a l]

Of course. Not just some spiders need to be exterminated, but ALL of them. Im like bug hitler, on a mission to kill ALL bugs. Those creeps are disgusting and need to be eradicated.

 

[ViciousVip3R]

I hope you mean a species of deadly spiders...

Please keep your hands away from the fence and refrain from feeding the trolls. Your help is much appreciated.

 

[t e r m i n a l]

I also think that the american government shouldn't allow these anarchists to continuously get away with the shit they're doing. In my opinion, this makes the government seem like a pushover, which leads way to countries with leaders such as Kim Jong Un thinking that America is now a pushover.

 

[Hall Kervean]

Please keep your hands away from the fence and refrain from feeding the trolls. Your help is much appreciated.

Unless...
*strips off mask*
I AM A TROLL
*runs off into the night singing the Soviet national anthem*

 

[ViciousVip3R]

Unless...
*strips off mask*
I AM A TROLL
*runs off into the night singing the Soviet national anthem*

Gasp! I've been bamboozled.
*Realizes the fence actually puts me in the cage while the trolls are outside.

 

[t e r m i n a l]

Fuckin communist trash! As a faithful Kekistani, it is my national duty to eradicate not only communism, but those who are loyal to communist countries such as the USSR or China.

 

[ViciousVip3R]

I also think that the american government shouldn't allow these anarchists to continuously get away with the shit they're doing. In my opinion, this makes the government seem like a pushover, which leads way to countries with leaders such as Kim Jong Un thinking that America is now a pushover.

Now, continuing with the theme of this thread. What justification does America have to interfere with foreign affairs? Sure, you might say it there is a moral obligation, but there are many instances where America's intervention has made the situation worse, or the people being "helped" did not want it. Now, consider this on a much smaller scale. If you believed that water was beneficial to all, would you be allowed to go around forcing people to drink it? Or if you saw a person in unfortunate circumstances and forced them to accept your help even when they clearly said no? Now, in America, people have rights that allow them to decide for themselves what happens to them, so why can America go around "helping" people without their consent? Are you suggesting these people are some how lesser compared to Americans? Or do you believe that it is acceptable to violate their personal freedom?

 

[t e r m i n a l]

I dont think America really has justification, and i think it should cease relations with several countries in favor of looking after the people who inhabit it.

 

[ViciousVip3R]

I dont think America really has justification, and i think it should cease relations with several countries in favor of looking after the people who inhabit it.

Hmm, how do you think that will benefit the people of that country? By relations I am assuming you mean economic relations, can you imagine what would happen to the country if America was a major trading partner? I can assure you that if worst comes to worse, the government will not be the first ones to suffer, the populace will be bearing the brunt of the poverty,

 

[t e r m i n a l]

I mean military relations. I dont think we need military bases in every single place, and i think that focusing on removing the governments debt, reducing unemployment and keeping inflation in check are more important than having military bases in corner of the globe.

 

[t e r m i n a l]

And where's my cookie for finding your secret message?

 

[ViciousVip3R]

I mean military relations. I dont think we need military bases in every single place, and i think that focusing on removing the governments debt, reducing unemployment and keeping inflation in check are more important than having military bases in corner of the globe.

Ah ok, good discussion.

And where's my cookie for finding your secret message?

Wow, I'm impressed. Here:

 

[t e r m i n a l]

Thank you.

 

[Sunbather]

Anakin as a 9 year old child has more of an excuse for flying his starfighter than Rey does for the Millennium Falcon.
Kylo Ren is not only an unimpressive villain, but they tried to force character development we've already seen in Avatar: The Last Airbender inside of Zuko that was implemented stellarly while Kylo's isn't even that good compared to his.
Finn goes through a very strange character arc and in the end we have no better idea of what his goals are or who he is as a person, and even fails in his basic motivation.
Every emotional moment is not; either by the fault of the actors for not portraying it properly, the director for not showing it right, or the writers for not making us feel bad. Even Han Solo's death was poorly handled.
Every action sequence in the movie was boring and uneventful. I normally love action, even bad action. This was just pretty pictures. Even Attack of the Clones, which was also pretty pictures, had far better fights. And that's widely considered the weak link.
The lightsaber duel was the worst ever. It was so forgettable that I forgot it. Maul v Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon
Obi Wan and Anakin v Dooku
Yoda v Dooku
Obi Wan and Anakin v Dooku (2)
Obi Wan v Grievous
Council v Sidious
Yoda v Sidious
Anakin v Obi Wan
All of these are better than TFA's by a long shot, visually. And most of them, emotionally. Think of it like the Vader v Ben of the new sequel.
Aside from the copy and pasted plot, the fact they literally got rid of the EU for this, and the fact that all of the accomplishments achieved in episode 6 are completely nullified.

Aside from numerous plot holes, like how the First Order isn't a terrorist cell and is instead a dominant power, when they're not a dominant power.

No.

 

[The Gunrunner]

Most melee fights in movies look like shit. Star Wars and Highlander are included.

Compare!

Spoiler

Or

Better yet!

Spoiler

Or

Fiction should look better, not worse.

 

[welian]

... I like pineapple on pizza, and I put ketchup directly on my French fries.

 

[The Dark Wizard]

... I like pineapple on pizza, and I put ketchup directly on my French fries.

Get out.

 

[welian]

Get out.

But it's delicious! So sweet and tangy!

 

[Axel The Englishman]

Begone, foul creature!

 

[Hall Kervean]

No.

Anakin spent years pod racing, had years of experience in crashing said pods, had a copilot, had the hardest part of flying (takeoff and landing) taken care of with autopilot, when he was on the spaceship he had spent every moment he could up in the front with the pilot learning how everything worked (assuming also that the Naboo fighter and the queen's ship had similar controls), and he was the chosen one.
Rey had spent her whole life riding on a (relatively) slow speeder, if riding at all. She had never flown a ship and, in fact, had no reason to have even stepped inside a functioning spaceship before, since she never wanted to leave the planet. She was nowhere near as force-sensitive as Anakin, and is nowhere near as attuned as he was when she was flying it. She did not have a copilot, she had to undergo the hardest part of flying (takeoff), and she had no knowledge of what each system on the Falcon did and, in actuality, shouldn't know what any of them does.
Now, you may claim that because Rey had experience as a scavenger, she had an intricate knowledge of ship parts, and could piece together knowledge about hoe to fly a ship. It's untrue, but if we pretended it was, Anakin has the exact same excuse in addition to the others.
Now, let's compare other information:
Anakin is facing between three and five computer-operated droid fighters. These are the absolute weakest Star Wars fighters on film, and relatively low in the EU. He is also being sporadically and occasionally fired on by the Trade Federation ship's point-defense turbo lasers, which, as seen in the movies, the EU, and the TV shows, are all relatively poor against fighters of any sort.
Rey has to compete with two trained TIE Fighter pilots, each of which has presumably received some of the best pilot training in the galaxy given the First Order's status, each equipped with one of the finest pieces of military equipment in its time.
Anakin's starfighter is on the same level as if not a few levels above the fighters being used by the Trade Federation, given that this was the total quantity of Naboo's space power.
The Millennium Falcon was outdated and obsolete 30+ years before TFA. It'd be even worse there.
Anakin's piloting path consisted of the autopilot flying to the fray and then circling the Trade Federation ship. Since the Trade Federation ship was automated, it was focusing its fighters and guns on those fighters that posed an imminent threat, not the on circling it. Eventually, a small wing of fighters did break off, and as Anakin began to fly over the ship itself, the turbo lasers took aim and fired on him.
Rey's flight path involved loop the loops, expert maneuvers we haven't seen from anybody; Jedi, Sith, Han, etc.; threading the needle multiple times, incredibly narrow flight paths and windows of escape.
Anakin's flight time once he's actually engaged (in in-universe time) is about 30 seconds, after, despite some pretty decent maneuvers and the will of the force, he is shot down by one of the trailing fighters.
Rey's flight time after being engaged starts at takeoff and lasts well over three minutes of engagement, and several minutes after said engagement.
Let me set it out for you:


The chosen one has a free takeoff and presumably a free landing, assistance from a copilot, the might of the force, years of pod racing experience, years of working with parts that could be used to fly, days in the cockpit doing nothing but learning how everything works, is up against three-five of the easiest straighters in EU, not to mention canon, and AA point-defense, which is also generally ineffective in Star Wars, in one of Naboo's best fighters. Once engaged, he uses basic maneuvers and is generally unobstructed by obstacles. He lasts 30 seconds.
Rey has not had the call of the force yet, she must take off on her own, she has no assistance, years of riding to work on a speeder over generally flat terrain, years of working with parts that could be used to fly (actually throwing a bone here; if as shown, then she only knows about parts on Star Destroyers, which are very different from fighters and freighters), never been in any spaceship aside from the one she was dropped off on, and is up against two relatively thoroughly trained pilots with, at the time, state-of-the-art military fighters while she was in something that was obsolete 30 years prior, much less now. Once engaged on takeoff, she uses advanced maneuvers and takes flight paths that are incredibly difficult to undertake even for trained pilots that are in no way unobstructed. She lasts the full engagement of well over 3 minutes.

 

[Hall Kervean]

Get out.

no u

 

[Sunbather]

Anakin spent years pod racing, had years of experience in crashing said pods, had a copilot, had the hardest part of flying (takeoff and landing) taken care of with autopilot, when he was on the spaceship he had spent every moment he could up in the front with the pilot learning how everything worked (assuming also that the Naboo fighter and the queen's ship had similar controls), and he was the chosen one.
Rey had spent her whole life riding on a (relatively) slow speeder, if riding at all. She had never flown a ship and, in fact, had no reason to have even stepped inside a functioning spaceship before, since she never wanted to leave the planet. She was nowhere near as force-sensitive as Anakin, and is nowhere near as attuned as he was when she was flying it. She did not have a copilot, she had to undergo the hardest part of flying (takeoff), and she had no knowledge of what each system on the Falcon did and, in actuality, shouldn't know what any of them does.
Now, you may claim that because Rey had experience as a scavenger, she had an intricate knowledge of ship parts, and could piece together knowledge about hoe to fly a ship. It's untrue, but if we pretended it was, Anakin has the exact same excuse in addition to the others.
Now, let's compare other information:
Anakin is facing between three and five computer-operated droid fighters. These are the absolute weakest Star Wars fighters on film, and relatively low in the EU. He is also being sporadically and occasionally fired on by the Trade Federation ship's point-defense turbo lasers, which, as seen in the movies, the EU, and the TV shows, are all relatively poor against fighters of any sort.
Rey has to compete with two trained TIE Fighter pilots, each of which has presumably received some of the best pilot training in the galaxy given the First Order's status, each equipped with one of the finest pieces of military equipment in its time.
Anakin's starfighter is on the same level as if not a few levels above the fighters being used by the Trade Federation, given that this was the total quantity of Naboo's space power.
The Millennium Falcon was outdated and obsolete 30+ years before TFA. It'd be even worse there.
Anakin's piloting path consisted of the autopilot flying to the fray and then circling the Trade Federation ship. Since the Trade Federation ship was automated, it was focusing its fighters and guns on those fighters that posed an imminent threat, not the on circling it. Eventually, a small wing of fighters did break off, and as Anakin began to fly over the ship itself, the turbo lasers took aim and fired on him.
Rey's flight path involved loop the loops, expert maneuvers we haven't seen from anybody; Jedi, Sith, Han, etc.; threading the needle multiple times, incredibly narrow flight paths and windows of escape.
Anakin's flight time once he's actually engaged (in in-universe time) is about 30 seconds, after, despite some pretty decent maneuvers and the will of the force, he is shot down by one of the trailing fighters.
Rey's flight time after being engaged starts at takeoff and lasts well over three minutes of engagement, and several minutes after said engagement.
Let me set it out for you:


The chosen one has a free takeoff and presumably a free landing, assistance from a copilot, the might of the force, years of pod racing experience, years of working with parts that could be used to fly, days in the cockpit doing nothing but learning how everything works, is up against three-five of the easiest straighters in EU, not to mention canon, and AA point-defense, which is also generally ineffective in Star Wars, in one of Naboo's best fighters. Once engaged, he uses basic maneuvers and is generally unobstructed by obstacles. He lasts 30 seconds.
Rey has not had the call of the force yet, she must take off on her own, she has no assistance, years of riding to work on a speeder over generally flat terrain, years of working with parts that could be used to fly (actually throwing a bone here; if as shown, then she only knows about parts on Star Destroyers, which are very different from fighters and freighters), never been in any spaceship aside from the one she was dropped off on, and is up against two relatively thoroughly trained pilots with, at the time, state-of-the-art military fighters while she was in something that was obsolete 30 years prior, much less now. Once engaged on takeoff, she uses advanced maneuvers and takes flight paths that are incredibly difficult to undertake even for trained pilots that are in no way unobstructed. She lasts the full engagement of well over 3 minutes.

Nah

 

[Hall Kervean]

Nah

How so lel
tell meh
where I was wrong
what I had wrong
how it was wrong
what the right answer was
and why that was the right answer

 

[Sunbather]

Honestly, I'm guessing somewhere in the 29239829382 points you made, I'm sure there's 1-2 I agree with, but it's so much arguing over "I like this better". Like, Force Awakens could have revealed Rey was a unicorn that found all the Dragonballs and became Satan in the end, and it wouldn't matter. If I like a movie more than others you can't argue against that. It's like if you said "I like rock better than pop" and I went "No, you don't, that's not true."

Like...

wat

PS: Protip; If you want people to reply seriously to a lot of trivial arguments, present your points in nicely digestible bulletpoints, not in poorly and inconsistently formatted walls of texts. Ain't nobody got time for that.