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[0stinato]

Since we now have five people ready to participate, do you guys want to set up some sort of posting order? 


Another possibility might be that everyone waits for at least two people to post after them or for 24 hours to pass (whichever is sooner) before posting again. Do y'all think that would help keep things organized as things pick up, or would y'all prefer we left it as it is?

If we organised it a little bit, we'd be able to make sure no one rushed ahead. And all the characters would be acting at roughly the same time of day. You know, it breaks the immersion a bit if one minute a character is getting ready to turn in for the night, and someone else is enjoying the noon breeze at the same time.


So yeah, maybe the rule of two-posts-or-24-hours. It seems sensible, and will hopefully mean important plot points won't happen when all of us aren't ready for it.

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

If we organised it a little bit, we'd be able to make sure no one rushed ahead. And all the characters would be acting at roughly the same time of day. You know, it breaks the immersion a bit if one minute a character is getting ready to turn in for the night, and someone else is enjoying the noon breeze at the same time.


So yeah, maybe the rule of two-posts-or-24-hours. It seems sensible, and will hopefully mean important plot points won't happen when all of us aren't ready for it.

That's kinda what I was thinking. I think it would be a bit more fair by making sure everyone had a chance to post and keep everyone involved.


The 24-hour thing was really an arbitrary number, it was just the first that came to mind. Does that seem like a good number? A day might be frustrating to someone itching to post, but that should give everyone else plenty of time without making the others wait too long. I think replies will probably be more frequent than one-a-day, though, so maybe that won't be an issue.


I'm not really sure what to do about time of day or figuring out what to do if two people post at once, though...

 

[0stinato]

That's kinda what I was thinking. I think it would be a bit more fair by making sure everyone had a chance to post and keep everyone involved.


The 24-hour thing was really an arbitrary number, it was just the first that came to mind. Does that seem like a good number? A day might be frustrating to someone itching to post, but that should give everyone else plenty of time without making the others wait too long. I think replies will probably be more frequent than one-a-day, though, so maybe that won't be an issue.


I'm not really sure what to do about time of day or figuring out what to do if two people post at once, though...

I'm confident of everyone's ability to 'judge' if they should post or not.


You know, like, if people post and it's a bit vague according to the rules, they can make their call based on a) what their character's actions will be (if it's something just like travelling from point A to point B it's probably fine, but if it's a plot point, they might hold off until others post and catch up to them), and b) what other characters' actions are (if nothing's happening with one character, and they're alone, they could get involved with said character, to add more to character-to-character relationships. Character).


So, I'd say don't sweat it too much. The rule's a good thing to have, but, if it's not able to be completely followed, we leave it up to the poster's judgement.

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

I'm confident of everyone's ability to 'judge' if they should post or not.


You know, like, if people post and it's a bit vague according to the rules, they can make their call based on a) what their character's actions will be (if it's something just like travelling from point A to point B it's probably fine, but if it's a plot point, they might hold off until others post and catch up to them), and b) what other characters' actions are (if nothing's happening with one character, and they're alone, they could get involved with said character, to add more to character-to-character relationships. Character).


So, I'd say don't sweat it too much. The rule's a good thing to have, but, if it's not able to be completely followed, we leave it up to the poster's judgement.

That's a good point.

 

[Abdel featherfall]

Since we now have five people ready to participate, do you guys want to set up some sort of posting order? 


Another possibility might be that everyone waits for at least two people to post after them or for 24 hours to pass (whichever is sooner) before posting again. Do y'all think that would help keep things organized as things pick up, or would y'all prefer we left it as it is?

Most places I RP at its the second rule. And it's smoother especially if say someone is busy and can't post as much. The RP can keep rolling and nobody is really left waiting for several days.

 

[Dragonix975]

I personally would prefer no restriction.

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

Most places I RP at its the second rule. And it's smoother especially if say someone is busy and can't post as much. The RP can keep rolling and nobody is really left waiting for several days.

I personally would prefer no restriction.

Both noted. I'll wait for Beta and figure something out then. I do think that would help things at a good speed, not too fast and not too slow. Maybe we can use it as a guideline like Nat said and see how it all goes. If things are going slow, we could remove the restriction, or step it up if things are too fast.

 

[Jellyon]

From what I can tell these are intresting ideas to say the least. But here is what I think. A system where people are required to post in set amount of time is nice considering it keeps a nice flow, but for people like me who need to keep up with real life makes it quite diffcuilt. My general rule of thumb is when I am engaging with someone in terms of characters I make sure that I have the time and courtesy to reply at a reasonable rate. But if I find myself not becoming available I try to break away and make up something that requires a certain amount of time to pass.


Another reasoning because I am the slowest writer in the world since I try to make my posts intresting to others.


In conclusion, I say we find a middle ground to satisfy everyone.


What say?

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

Well, things seems to be doing alright for the time being. I figure we can go on as we have been for the moment, then have that plan for if things get hectic.

 

[Jellyon]

Well, things seems to be doing alright for the time being. I figure we can go on as we have been for the moment, then have that plan for if things get hectic.

So winging it?

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

So winging it?

Sure, why not? (x

 

[Dragonix975]

I am waiting for a post by Never or Abdel FYI.

 

[Jellyon]

Doot doot doot doot.

 

[Dragonix975]

Hmm. Now that we are all in the Hall, should we conduct full meetings in my room?

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

@Dragonix975 Hey Dragon, I just posted a reply to your last post. It took me a bit to figure something out, but I got it.



I noticed you still seemed to be having a bit of trouble fleshing out your posts and I wanted to see if I could help you out, maybe show you some things you could think about when writing. Personally, I find writing to be much more fun when I can get into the heads of the characters and see the world from their eyes, and then telling their story to everyone else. I think you would enjoy it too. There are lots of questions you ask yourself to learn more about your character or show your readers more about them. To kind of show you what I mean, I wrote a bit from your character’s perspective regarding your last post (at least as far as I understand him and with some improv of my own) and will make note of the questions I asked or thought about when writing. You don’t have to do this, but it may be a fun way to get to know your character and learn new things.

Spoiler

Veryon was walking along the path to Candlehearth Hall, eager to get in from the cold and meet with the Khajiit fellow he’d met the other day. He had been busy with his plans that morning and thought the Khajiit would be interested to know about its progress. The person in front of him was hooded, so he couldn’t see their face, but from their hurried gait and tense posture, he thought they seem worried about something. He looked around to see what might be concerning them, but saw nothing.
Then it happened.
He could feel the fit coming on had it often did, as it would incessantly do until he could be free from his curse. Why, oh why did he make that agreement? Hadn’t he known it could only lead to ruin? It had seemed so reasonable at the time, but now he knew he’d made a huge mistake. That mistake had to be mended, and that was why it was so crucial that he find this Silas before it was too late.
He gasped and stumbled to the ground, his head throbbing, vision swimming and finally fading, and he collapsed. He was vaguely aware of the snow cold against his scales and of a shadowy form leaning over him.


As he drifted in and out of consciousness, he began to see strange things in his mind. This was another effect of his pact, but the one he had asked for. At least, it was mostly what he had asked for. He could see the future, yes, but it wasn’t always what he wanted to see and almost never when he wanted to see it. The visions would come in a wave, often at the most inconvenient times, and incapacitate him until they were over. While he was in them, he could see snatches of the future, but a future that could potentially be changed. However, the images were often so scattered and disorganized that he often had little idea of what was happening in them, much less what needed to be done to make sure the events did or didn’t happen. 



In this one, he could see grey skies covered in clouds over the walls of a stone city. A red-haired man wearing a crown stood at the head of an army standing outside the walls, shouting up at a gilded figure flanked by disciplined archers on each side, but he was too far away to see their faces or hear their words. The next image was of a battlefield strewn with carnage. It seemed that every inhabitant of all Skyrim lay wounded or dead in the aftermath. As he floated over the bodies, he noticed the red-haired man from earlier lying dead surrounded by a group of soldiers. One of the bodies was that of an older Nord man, one was of a Khajiit woman, and one was some sort of race he’d never seen before. He looked away to the east and saw the sun beginning to rise. It grew larger and larger, closer and closer, until it shone brighter than any mortal could bear. Finally, it engulfed him and his eyes flew open with a start.



He was laying on a wooden floor, looking up at two strange faces hovering over him. It took him a moment to process everything, but when it hit it, he sat up with a jolt. The visions always left him perfectly strong and back to normal when they passed, but he cast a healing spell on himself for the benefit of the onlookers. Couldn’t have them suspecting he was immortal. Once he was to his feet, he began walking toward the rooms, motioning to the two Khajiit to follow him. It was very important that he speak to them, for they were the faces from his vision. But there was one more, the Nord man. Where was he?

So, first off, I’d just like to apologize for any mistakes I may have made regarding your character. I don’t know much about him or your plans for him, so I just made up what I thought seemed appropriate. Obviously, this is in no way canon to the story, this was just an example I made up. Anyway, the point isn’t really the way I portrayed Veryon in this case, but the sorts of questions involved and the story thel tell. These are some of the things I asked myself or explained to the reader.



What was he doing as he came to Candlehearth Hall? Was he really following Saorat like she thought he was? What did he experience as the fit came over him? Are these fits predictable, or are they not? Where do they come from? What does he feel about his deal with the daedra? Why is it so important to find Silas? What are his visions like? What does he see for the future? Why does he recover so quickly from his fit? What misconceptions do other characters have about him? Why does he want to speak to the two Khajiit? What might his next step be?



Of course, not all of the questions are included here and not all of them are really required for the story to progress. But, they do make the story much more interesting and let you show more about your creation. It also provides all sorts of fodder for other people to build off of. Of course, our characters wouldn’t be able to see what was going on in his mind or understand what was going on, but we as readers can. So, we can then build on that and develop a side quest to help him be rid of his curse, figure out how to use his visions to create an advantage, determine whether the future he saw was a fixed point or something that could be changed, how events will reach that point, whether or not their actions cause it to happen, etc. As far as the characters are concerned, this provides us with more detail to determine how our characters should react, gives little things for characters to notice or think about/comment on, and gives a better visual picture of the characters interacting.



Anyway, I don’t know if this helped at all, but I hope it did. I had a lot of fun writing that up there, and this isn’t even my character! I bet you would have even more fun. And, if this seems a bit intimidating, it’s alright. You don’t have to make something perfect or spectacular, especially if you’re new to this. Just keep pushing yourself, stretching to include a little more each time, and soon enough I’ll bet you’d be pleasantly surprised with what you can come up with. It does take work, but it’s a lot of fun and very rewarding. I hope you’ll give it a shot!

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

Just so y'all know, I'm getting a bit close to my data allowance, so I'll probably not be around quite as much. I'll still try to check in at least once a day and post replies while I'm able, but may be a bit spotty. @Beta✯ can take any questions or issues that come up. I'll be back regularly in a couple weeks when I have a good computer instead of my phone.

 

[Jellyon]

Oh #$!@#!


Forgot to make my post. My bad!

 

[Abdel featherfall]

Sorry for my not posting I just have NO idea what to say in my situation.

 

[Dragonix975]

@Dragonix975 Hey Dragon, I just posted a reply to your last post. It took me a bit to figure something out, but I got it.



I noticed you still seemed to be having a bit of trouble fleshing out your posts and I wanted to see if I could help you out, maybe show you some things you could think about when writing. Personally, I find writing to be much more fun when I can get into the heads of the characters and see the world from their eyes, and then telling their story to everyone else. I think you would enjoy it too. There are lots of questions you ask yourself to learn more about your character or show your readers more about them. To kind of show you what I mean, I wrote a bit from your character’s perspective regarding your last post (at least as far as I understand him and with some improv of my own) and will make note of the questions I asked or thought about when writing. You don’t have to do this, but it may be a fun way to get to know your character and learn new things.

Spoiler

Veryon was walking along the path to Candlehearth Hall, eager to get in from the cold and meet with the Khajiit fellow he’d met the other day. He had been busy with his plans that morning and thought the Khajiit would be interested to know about its progress. The person in front of him was hooded, so he couldn’t see their face, but from their hurried gait and tense posture, he thought they seem worried about something. He looked around to see what might be concerning them, but saw nothing.
Then it happened.
He could feel the fit coming on had it often did, as it would incessantly do until he could be free from his curse. Why, oh why did he make that agreement? Hadn’t he known it could only lead to ruin? It had seemed so reasonable at the time, but now he knew he’d made a huge mistake. That mistake had to be mended, and that was why it was so crucial that he find this Silas before it was too late.
He gasped and stumbled to the ground, his head throbbing, vision swimming and finally fading, and he collapsed. He was vaguely aware of the snow cold against his scales and of a shadowy form leaning over him.


As he drifted in and out of consciousness, he began to see strange things in his mind. This was another effect of his pact, but the one he had asked for. At least, it was mostly what he had asked for. He could see the future, yes, but it wasn’t always what he wanted to see and almost never when he wanted to see it. The visions would come in a wave, often at the most inconvenient times, and incapacitate him until they were over. While he was in them, he could see snatches of the future, but a future that could potentially be changed. However, the images were often so scattered and disorganized that he often had little idea of what was happening in them, much less what needed to be done to make sure the events did or didn’t happen. 



In this one, he could see grey skies covered in clouds over the walls of a stone city. A red-haired man wearing a crown stood at the head of an army standing outside the walls, shouting up at a gilded figure flanked by disciplined archers on each side, but he was too far away to see their faces or hear their words. The next image was of a battlefield strewn with carnage. It seemed that every inhabitant of all Skyrim lay wounded or dead in the aftermath. As he floated over the bodies, he noticed the red-haired man from earlier lying dead surrounded by a group of soldiers. One of the bodies was that of an older Nord man, one was of a Khajiit woman, and one was some sort of race he’d never seen before. He looked away to the east and saw the sun beginning to rise. It grew larger and larger, closer and closer, until it shone brighter than any mortal could bear. Finally, it engulfed him and his eyes flew open with a start.



He was laying on a wooden floor, looking up at two strange faces hovering over him. It took him a moment to process everything, but when it hit it, he sat up with a jolt. The visions always left him perfectly strong and back to normal when they passed, but he cast a healing spell on himself for the benefit of the onlookers. Couldn’t have them suspecting he was immortal. Once he was to his feet, he began walking toward the rooms, motioning to the two Khajiit to follow him. It was very important that he speak to them, for they were the faces from his vision. But there was one more, the Nord man. Where was he?

So, first off, I’d just like to apologize for any mistakes I may have made regarding your character. I don’t know much about him or your plans for him, so I just made up what I thought seemed appropriate. Obviously, this is in no way canon to the story, this was just an example I made up. Anyway, the point isn’t really the way I portrayed Veryon in this case, but the sorts of questions involved and the story thel tell. These are some of the things I asked myself or explained to the reader.



What was he doing as he came to Candlehearth Hall? Was he really following Saorat like she thought he was? What did he experience as the fit came over him? Are these fits predictable, or are they not? Where do they come from? What does he feel about his deal with the daedra? Why is it so important to find Silas? What are his visions like? What does he see for the future? Why does he recover so quickly from his fit? What misconceptions do other characters have about him? Why does he want to speak to the two Khajiit? What might his next step be?



Of course, not all of the questions are included here and not all of them are really required for the story to progress. But, they do make the story much more interesting and let you show more about your creation. It also provides all sorts of fodder for other people to build off of. Of course, our characters wouldn’t be able to see what was going on in his mind or understand what was going on, but we as readers can. So, we can then build on that and develop a side quest to help him be rid of his curse, figure out how to use his visions to create an advantage, determine whether the future he saw was a fixed point or something that could be changed, how events will reach that point, whether or not their actions cause it to happen, etc. As far as the characters are concerned, this provides us with more detail to determine how our characters should react, gives little things for characters to notice or think about/comment on, and gives a better visual picture of the characters interacting.



Anyway, I don’t know if this helped at all, but I hope it did. I had a lot of fun writing that up there, and this isn’t even my character! I bet you would have even more fun. And, if this seems a bit intimidating, it’s alright. You don’t have to make something perfect or spectacular, especially if you’re new to this. Just keep pushing yourself, stretching to include a little more each time, and soon enough I’ll bet you’d be pleasantly surprised with what you can come up with. It does take work, but it’s a lot of fun and very rewarding. I hope you’ll give it a shot!

Can I use it? 

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

Can I use it? 

That particular post? I'd rather you didn't, but if you want to build off it in some way or use elements from it (for example, if you like the idea of his visions being of the future but very difficult to interpret, almost like a dream, or if you think finding Silas is a good way to get rid of his curse and that's why he's looking for him) that's okay. It doesn't really help any if you just take what someone else wrote. For one thing, that doesn't help you improve, and for another, it keeps you from being able to use your own writing style. But if you would like to use those questions or some others you think of to inspire your post, that would be perfectly fine. (:


@Abdel featherfall That's okay, no worries! Your character is about to speak with Veryon? Maybe you can talk about what she's expecting to hear, what she's seeing and feeling about the city, what she thinks about him or the other inhabitants of the inn, etc. You mentioned that she was also looking for Ulfric, right? Maybe she's heard rumors of a rebel resistance and you can show her thoughts on that or experiences in the past. Or, maybe something happens so that she never gets to have her meeting, maybe something distracts her. Or, you could have her follow and explain her thoughts, or have her initiate the conversation. Any of those give you ideas? (:

 

[MorgathosTheRussian]

Is this still open?

 

[Dragonix975]

Is this still open?

IDK

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

Is this still open?

Yes, it is. But I don't have a whole lot of phone data left, so I'll be spotty until the 16th or 17th. Beta can take care of any questions or issues, though.

 

[AlbaGuBrath]

Okay, so trying to sort out where everyone is, since I think we're all a bit scattered at the moment.


Ria and Veyron are speaking together in one of the rooms.


Saor is upstairs trying to drop some eaves on them.


Kumi is next-door (or in a nearby room) writing a letter.


Dren is... Still outside somewhere? Or has he entered the Hall?


Is that right? I think that's all the characters that have been introduced so far, but if y'all that haven't made your intro yet want to start planning it here, that would be fine.


As far as what I was thinking about bringing the five of us together as it stands, I had two ideas.


One was that Saor would catch enough of Veyron and Ria's conversation to warrant an investigation (depending on what it was about, of course. She's not getting involved with any daedra, but would be interested in news touching on the rebellion) and come down to see about it. Since Kumi is nearby, he might hear something interesting as well and go investigate, or he could be walking out to send off his letter and run into Saor or Dren in the process (if he's there then).


The other was that she wouldn't hear anything useful and would begin circling the inn again to gather information and wait for Dren. That might be a good way to introduce new characters, if needed. If he doesn't show up after a while, she will probably go out looking for him.


What do you guys think of those? Anything you'd like to change or add? Any other ideas?


I think if one of the rebels was able to speak to Ria for a bit, they would be able to talk about the resistance since she's already trying to find Ulfric herself. They might each have information to share, though they might want to go somewhere else to speak. Saor might could speak with her briefly, then they could go together to find Dren and speak more openly while they search.


Saor would also probably speak to Kumi if she was ever convinced that he really was from Riften and could have a good gossip about that. That could be fun... (x


As far as Veyron, it would be a little more difficult. She's already a bit suspicious of him because she suspects that he was following her and that his earlier collapse was a trick, and just has a vague sort of uneasiness about him. If it comes out that he's connected to daedra in someway, she won't have a thing to do with him, and may even consider calling for him to be arrested. If it doesn't and he seems to be just a regular guy, she may be willing to set aside some of that wariness for the sake of civility or to learn something.


By the way, Dragon, that was a good job on your last post! I was gonna ask, what do you have in mind for this conversation or your character's future? It sounds like it would be interesting.

 

[explosiveKitten]

Hellooo? Are we still accepting here??? I love Skyrim and it sounds great~


@AlbaGuBrath