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The Last War (Alternate WWI)

Nations unclaimed in the role call:


Europe


Spain, Netherlands, Belgium, Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria, Egypt, Portugal, Norway


N.America


Mexico


S.America


All save Brazil, but they are unimportant and not really playable


Asia


No real major players left.  


Africa:


Ethiopia
 
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@Jolteon dozens of random countries, many of which won't even be mentioned


I agree with giving the staff the weekend to fix it, if we take too long sitting around some people could get impatient.
 
Bobisdead123 said:
Nations unclaimed in the role call:


Europe


Spain, Netherlands, Belgium, Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria, Egypt, Portugal, Norway


N.America


Mexico


S.America


All save Brazil, but they are unimportant and not really playable


Asia


No real major players left.  


Africa:


Ethiopia
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@general ostruppen You dont seem satisfied with your selection.  Take your pick form these my friend!
 
When is this rp going to start?


I haven't had any spare time to research much for Italy yet or the political climate of WW1 ;-;
 
TheIrradiatedWaffle said:
I can make you a superpower, industrialized, you can join me and my allies. I hav grand plans...
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Bro, you're weak as hell and you're still trying to settle the Midwest. The east coast and California are your only real industrial areas tbh...


Your army isn't even top 10 status. Lol Aaaaanyways
 
Proxploxtops said:
Bro, you're weak as hell and you're still trying to settle the Midwest. The east coast and California are your only real industrial areas tbh...


Your army isn't even top 10 status. Lol Aaaaanyways
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bru, no. I'm the most industrial nation,I got one of the best navies, the 2nd largest economy, and technically, neither is Britain's, with its 120,000 men in 1914.


I'm a industrial powerhouse, supplying the allies with guns, munitions, and credit to keep the war going
 
TheIrradiatedWaffle said:
bru, no. I'm the most industrial nation,I got one of the best navies, the 2nd largest economy, and technically, neither is Britain's, with its 120,000 men in 1914.


I'm a industrial powerhouse, supplying the allies with guns, munitions, and credit to keep the war going
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by 1910, I got 35.5% of the world's industrial copacity
 
I'll just stick to Spain considering it's more industrial then SA countries but not as much as the major powers. I'm just gonna focus on growing my GDP
 
TheIrradiatedWaffle said:
bru, no. I'm the most industrial nation,I got one of the best navies, the 2nd largest economy, and technically, neither is Britain's, with its 120,000 men in 1914.


I'm a industrial powerhouse, supplying the allies with guns, munitions, and credit to keep the war going
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Um I hate to break it to you but Britain had 1.5 million people in its navy with 200k in its army alone. That's just the army from Europe. But the end of WW1, it had 8 million soldiers total from around the world.


It also had 1.5 million enlisted men in its navy and was considered the best navy in the world with Germany in second place with he second best army.


Britain was well in the top 10 range with the best navy and army. The US Navy was in no way comparable to Britain's it Germany's (or even France for the late matter). 


The US was only an economical powerhouse. Their generals still used old tactics with new weapons and therefore got 200,000 people slaughtered by the end of WW1.


Even by the end if WW1, it was only decent as a military and by WW2 it had become truly a world power.


I don't want to argue but you gotta know!
 
Proxploxtops said:
Um I hate to break it to you but Britain had 1.5 million people in its navy with 200k in its army alone. That's just the army from Europe. But the end of WW1, it had 8 million soldiers total from around the world.


It also had 1.5 million enlisted men in its navy and was considered the best navy in the world with Germany in second place with he second best army.


Britain was well in the top 10 range with the best navy and army. The US Navy was in no way comparable to Britain's it Germany's (or even France for the late matter). 


The US was only an economical powerhouse. Their generals still used old tactics with new weapons and therefore got 200,000 people slaughtered by the end of WW1.


Even by the end if WW1, it was only decent as a military and by WW2 it had become truly a world power.


I don't want to argue but you gotta know!
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Interesting....


Well regardless, by the time I'm done with the rp, I'm going to rectify that. My Army will not be a mess with my tactics, I will be an influential country, and (hopefully) imperialism will be obsolete
 
TheIrradiatedWaffle said:
Interesting....


Well regardless, by the time I'm done with the rp, I'm going to rectify that. My Army will not be a mess with my tactics, I will be an influential country, and (hopefully) imperialism will be obsolete
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You do realize the US was imperialist to an extent right? Remember the Spanish-Americsn war, the war to take the Phillipines and the Mexican American war. Pretty much any industrialized country was impermissible if it wasn't colonized.
 
Proxploxtops said:
Um I hate to break it to you but Britain had 1.5 million people in its navy with 200k in its army alone. That's just the army from Europe. But the end of WW1, it had 8 million soldiers total from around the world.


It also had 1.5 million enlisted men in its navy and was considered the best navy in the world with Germany in second place with he second best army.


Britain was well in the top 10 range with the best navy and army. The US Navy was in no way comparable to Britain's it Germany's (or even France for the late matter). 


The US was only an economical powerhouse. Their generals still used old tactics with new weapons and therefore got 200,000 people slaughtered by the end of WW1.


Even by the end if WW1, it was only decent as a military and by WW2 it had become truly a world power.


I don't want to argue but you gotta know!
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While I agree with most of this, our generals didn't use 'old' tactics. Pershing is remembered today for specifically training U.S troops  to avoid the mistakes made by British and French troops. His doctrine of training American soldiers for a war of maneuvers helped greatly to make the American Expeditionary Force capable of taking on the Germans and winning. The goal was to unseat entrenched troops and flank defenses, then to keep pushing so that the enemy couldn't have time to dig new ones. Without this training and different approach to tactics, our losses would have been much higher. 


That being said, as much reknown as the AEF would earn in WW I, it was still a fraction of the size of European armies, plus, before Pershing hand-crafted it, America didn't even really have any effective fighting force. The US had men and industry, but no logistics to speak of and outdated weapons. When entering World War 1, the United States had to design new or borrow from allies most of its equipment, and because we had a navy but no merchant marine fleet, it took forever to get anything to France.


There was a really long wait from the time America declared war until the time America actually had an army in France because everything had to be learned and built from scratch than transported across the ocean. The chief complaint the other allies had about the Americans wasn't their tactical skill, but basically how long it took them to come and how undisciplined they were in parades. 


I read General Pershing's memoirs for a school project once. He was well studied on the American civil War and the current situation in World War One before leading the American forces in Europe. His primary goal going into the war was to keep his men safe and to avoid the butcher fields the French and British had in their trenches. 
 
Proxploxtops said:
You do realize the US was imperialist to an extent right? Remember the Spanish-Americsn war, the war to take the Phillipines and the Mexican American war. Pretty much any industrialized country was impermissible if it wasn't colonized.
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Not imperialist like others, it was a key point in US politics, where there was a point where  american politicans didnt want to imperialize as it might make the USA get intangled  abroad. As well, the mexican war wasnt really imperailist. Iys kinda like germany getting Alsace Lorraine
 
TheIrradiatedWaffle said:
Not imperialist like others, it was a key point in US politics, where there was a point where  american politicans didnt want to imperialize as it might make the USA get intangled  abroad. As well, the mexican war wasnt really imperailist. Iys kinda like germany getting Alsace Lorraine
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Wasnt it kind of a political thing? Like half the country was for imperialism, and half against? The Spanish-American War (when we took the Phillipines) was towards the high point of American Imperialism, then public opinion started to turn against it. 
 
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