Fantasy TFTNA - OOC

[Tobi Naefaerne]

In reference to the map above, maybe it's in the southwest of the Nasud Highlands, bordering Lake Ynu, not too far from the forest? It seems like a good place for trading, thus setting up a shop. Maybe it's known as a place where adventures like to settle down?

Maybe because of the way the factor works, there are magic ruins that only those with that can only be accessed by those that have the dark magic part of the factor? Y'know, something that could be used to stir up trouble with Lily XD

I feel like if the world the summoned person(s) come from is different enough and the person is in any way near the power of the summoner it causes a calamity. Which in this case teleports all living things besides plant/fungus and anything thing that they're touching. It might also wipe out non-magical man-made stuff, like no rubble sorta deal. Each calamity is different, it's just that summoning is another kind of teleportation. Maybe the town/city Thomas was in was somewhere near the Tipyon Forest, and they end up in the cold north? I feel like Thomas and his massive pool of mana would be very against her capture, given the amount of time it would take them to travel to the point where they could end up in the info network of whoever summoned her. As for being a weapon, ever thought of what would happen if you keep applying powerful healing to someone in perfect shape? Maybe extra growth, or sped up aging? Really, that healing could be as much a weapon as a blessing.

 

[Lumina]

Sounds like a good plan to me!

Ooh, that would be fun! I like that!

Hmm, okay, yeah. That makes enough sense. If they end up in the cold north, Lumina won’t do well. She would get sick and super weak in cold areas, so seeing that would especially give a reason for Thomas to help her? Oh true, almost like a battery. Maybe different parts of her do different things? Like tears, feather, fire, blood, etc all have different effects?

 

[Lumina]

Just had an interesting thought - what if a summoned phoenix, on top of having useful parts like tears/blood/feathers/Fire, can grant a wish?

 

[Tobi Naefaerne]

Sounds like a good plan to me!

Ooh, that would be fun! I like that!

Hmm, okay, yeah. That makes enough sense. If they end up in the cold north, Lumina won’t do well. She would get sick and super weak in cold areas, so seeing that would especially give a reason for Thomas to help her? Oh true, almost like a battery. Maybe different parts of her do different things? Like tears, feather, fire, blood, etc all have different effects?

Just had an interesting thought - what if a summoned phoenix, on top of having useful parts like tears/blood/feathers/Fire, can grant a wish?

It's like only a few nobles can even stand being their due to the number of commoners with great wealth XD

By the same factor, Lily would be able to understand any dark magic she uses by the second time using it, able to invoke it by name.

I was thinking the cold north so there would be more urgency to get moving and less to be able to focus on what happened at first. Personally, I thought the fire/heat of a phoenix would keep her warm that far north. As for different parts, it would depend on the mana/magic content of it. So maybe her tears only have a high magic content when experiencing strong/extreme emotion? Her feathers might always have a decent magic content. Fire would be magical, always. And blood might be meh except for rituals. As for the wish, that might be a bit out there. Magic can only do so much for the untrained, and there's no difference between a living thing whether or not it's been summoned. Maybe if it was contract summoned, but I think the person from her world before her only gave enough info for any given Pheonix.

 

[Lumina]

Hah xD

Yeah, that would make sense. But of course she would have no idea since she refuses/has refused to use it.

Ah yeah. I see there being two ways to go with Lumina and the cold: she’s either super weak to it, or it doesn’t bother her at all. Maybe it’s a mix of both? Like at first her natural affinity for heat protects her and she’s fine for a little bit (i kinda imagine her being able to stand in the cold wind completely fine) but any extended exposure hits her harder than it would other species. So she might seem fine at first but the longer they’re in the cold north the worse she gets, which would add to the urgency of moving along. Oh yeah, emotion makes them more potent. Sounds good about the fire and feathers too. I suppose my thinking about the wish came from the fact that she’s from another world, and phoenixes could be born with the innate ability to grant one non-phoenix person a single wish. Phoenixes are obviously a bitch to summon (see: the calamities that happen), so there has to be some reason other than farming items that people would risk doing something as dangerous as trying to summon them, like some big payoff. Also if phoenixes are from another world, it doesn’t seem too far off that they’d have some kind of magic that this world doesn’t. Or at least, the whole wish-granting thing is just a rumor that got spread around about them, even if it’s not true. I was just thinking it could be a kind of cool/cute moment between Thomas and Lumina where her memory is restored and they’ve traveled around for a while and to thank him for everything she grants him the one wish that she has to grant. Or something like that.

 

[Tobi Naefaerne]

Hah xD

Yeah, that would make sense. But of course she would have no idea since she refuses/has refused to use it.

Ah yeah. I see there being two ways to go with Lumina and the cold: she’s either super weak to it, or it doesn’t bother her at all. Maybe it’s a mix of both? Like at first her natural affinity for heat protects her and she’s fine for a little bit (i kinda imagine her being able to stand in the cold wind completely fine) but any extended exposure hits her harder than it would other species. So she might seem fine at first but the longer they’re in the cold north the worse she gets, which would add to the urgency of moving along. Oh yeah, emotion makes them more potent. Sounds good about the fire and feathers too. I suppose my thinking about the wish came from the fact that she’s from another world, and phoenixes could be born with the innate ability to grant one non-phoenix person a single wish. Phoenixes are obviously a bitch to summon (see: the calamities that happen), so there has to be some reason other than farming items that people would risk doing something as dangerous as trying to summon them, like some big payoff. Also if phoenixes are from another world, it doesn’t seem too far off that they’d have some kind of magic that this world doesn’t. Or at least, the whole wish-granting thing is just a rumor that got spread around about them, even if it’s not true. I was just thinking it could be a kind of cool/cute moment between Thomas and Lumina where her memory is restored and they’ve traveled around for a while and to thank him for everything she grants him the one wish that she has to grant. Or something like that.

Would the twins still be Masahi's and Kaori's kids?

Dark magic can do more than bad, it's just the application. Ayen would let her in on that.

Well, Thomas would be able to make stone shelters with magic, so until they found a town that would be a norm for each day. Probably because of the way she is, they'll need to take extended stays at inns until they get further south. Thomas would defenately be interested in buying the biggest, fluffiest clothes he would for her just so she could stay warm for longer XD And to add to why she was summoned, you had mentioned the phoenixes are rare? Perhaps she was summoned solely for what the legends said they are capable of? Like, legends are often mangled versions of the truth. Odds are she'd be the first pheonix, and the second person, from her world to be summoned. Thusly the conequences were largely unknown, and the reason for summoning her, or namely any phoenix, are just the potential for whatever the myth said they could do. As for what Thomas might do with said wish, well, I'm not sure if it would be a happy or sad moment.

 

[Lumina]

Would the twins still be Masahi's and Kaori's kids?

Dark magic can do more than bad, it's just the application. Ayen would let her in on that.

Well, Thomas would be able to make stone shelters with magic, so until they found a town that would be a norm for each day. Probably because of the way she is, they'll need to take extended stays at inns until they get further south. Thomas would defenately be interested in buying the biggest, fluffiest clothes he would for her just so she could stay warm for longer XD And to add to why she was summoned, you had mentioned the phoenixes are rare? Perhaps she was summoned solely for what the legends said they are capable of? Like, legends are often mangled versions of the truth. Odds are she'd be the first pheonix, and the second person, from her world to be summoned. Thusly the conequences were largely unknown, and the reason for summoning her, or namely any phoenix, are just the potential for whatever the myth said they could do. As for what Thomas might do with said wish, well, I'm not sure if it would be a happy or sad moment.

Hm, maybe? I mean, I suppose it depends on what we want for Kaori and Masahi? Like i think it could be cool/fun/cute to build their relationship a bit as time progresses, yanno? Like becoming friends > more than friends > lovers > more? But I suppose that also depends on the rules of the world, like if priestesses are allowed to marry and have kids. If they do have the kids, it’ll be a while before we introduce them. Otherwise they can just be twins with unknown parentage who maybe have a good friendship with Kaori/Masahi? Or even just twins that maybe are passing through the town/come across Ayen on the travels. Lots of options to choose from.

True, though she’ll still be hesitant to use it. All she knows is what she’s seen from her family/tribe/race.

Sounds reasonable. I imagine that she’ll have this radiating heat for a little bit until the cold starts to affect her. Thomas will be able to tell when it’s starting to get to her by when it’s not warm around her or she doesn’t feel warm. Then it’s probably a bit dangerous. She would kind of be intrigued by the interesting fluffiness of the clothes (since she’s not from this world she wouldn’t really be up on fashion trends). Yeah I would imagine phoenixes are rare. I also think that reasoning for summoning makes total sense. Also the prestige of summoning the first ever phoenix — any person who would want that wish for selfish purposes is probably also egotistical and prideful, too. Oh? Why’s that?

 

[Lumina]

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[Tobi Naefaerne]

Hm, maybe? I mean, I suppose it depends on what we want for Kaori and Masahi? Like i think it could be cool/fun/cute to build their relationship a bit as time progresses, yanno? Like becoming friends > more than friends > lovers > more? But I suppose that also depends on the rules of the world, like if priestesses are allowed to marry and have kids. If they do have the kids, it’ll be a while before we introduce them. Otherwise they can just be twins with unknown parentage who maybe have a good friendship with Kaori/Masahi? Or even just twins that maybe are passing through the town/come across Ayen on the travels. Lots of options to choose from.

True, though she’ll still be hesitant to use it. All she knows is what she’s seen from her family/tribe/race.

Sounds reasonable. I imagine that she’ll have this radiating heat for a little bit until the cold starts to affect her. Thomas will be able to tell when it’s starting to get to her by when it’s not warm around her or she doesn’t feel warm. Then it’s probably a bit dangerous. She would kind of be intrigued by the interesting fluffiness of the clothes (since she’s not from this world she wouldn’t really be up on fashion trends). Yeah I would imagine phoenixes are rare. I also think that reasoning for summoning makes total sense. Also the prestige of summoning the first ever phoenix — any person who would want that wish for selfish purposes is probably also egotistical and prideful, too. Oh? Why’s that?

I feel like it might more of a case to case thing with the priesthood. Like, if the person can use healing and detox magic they might make exceptions just to keep them with their given temple/church. And if that's how you want to do it with their relationship, then sure. I was just curious on your take. They might strike a conversation up on how Masahi always has to drag criminals in that resisted arrest to get healed or something like that. As for the twins, there's plenty of towns with ports.

I feel like Len might also ebb her on into using it if only against monsters/beasts they hunt. Yanno, make it feel that way she could pull her weight.

Thomas would probably be mixing air and fire magic in silence to keep a heat bubble around him, so once she starts running low Lumina might be inclined to stay near him. His idea of it would be to hide her wings and keep her warm in one move, he probably doesn't care about fashion and wears shabby clothing most of the time. Hmmm, maybe that wish is like a linchpin of their rebirth? Like, they can keep being reborn until they grant that wish? And what was said was an assumption made from an old story of a phoenix granting someone their life back? Also, as for why is could be sad, Thomas' wish could be that she'd be back with her family, in her own world, where she doesn't know how to get back to him and his world.

 

[Lumina]

I feel like it might more of a case to case thing with the priesthood. Like, if the person can use healing and detox magic they might make exceptions just to keep them with their given temple/church. And if that's how you want to do it with their relationship, then sure. I was just curious on your take. They might strike a conversation up on how Masahi always has to drag criminals in that resisted arrest to get healed or something like that. As for the twins, there's plenty of towns with ports.

I feel like Len might also ebb her on into using it if only against monsters/beasts they hunt. Yanno, make it feel that way she could pull her weight.

Thomas would probably be mixing air and fire magic in silence to keep a heat bubble around him, so once she starts running low Lumina might be inclined to stay near him. His idea of it would be to hide her wings and keep her warm in one move, he probably doesn't care about fashion and wears shabby clothing most of the time. Hmmm, maybe that wish is like a linchpin of their rebirth? Like, they can keep being reborn until they grant that wish? And what was said was an assumption made from an old story of a phoenix granting someone their life back? Also, as for why is could be sad, Thomas' wish could be that she'd be back with her family, in her own world, where she doesn't know how to get back to him and his world.

Fair enough. I wasn’t sure what your thoughts on what we should do with them would be. I’m fine with anything.

Yeah, she’s definitely gonna want to feel like she’s being useful. So that might be a good idea. Though it’ll take a bit of persuading.

Oh yeah. For sure. She might not understand intimacy like the people in the world do so she wouldn’t find it weird. I’m sure she’ll also not completely understand why she has to hide her wings all the time. Oh that could be interesting. Could have Lumina die at one point to help prove that point. Oh yeah damn, that would be sad.

 

[Tobi Naefaerne]

Fair enough. I wasn’t sure what your thoughts on what we should do with them would be. I’m fine with anything.

Yeah, she’s definitely gonna want to feel like she’s being useful. So that might be a good idea. Though it’ll take a bit of persuading.

Oh yeah. For sure. She might not understand intimacy like the people in the world do so she wouldn’t find it weird. I’m sure she’ll also not completely understand why she has to hide her wings all the time. Oh that could be interesting. Could have Lumina die at one point to help prove that point. Oh yeah damn, that would be sad.

Well, since it's the two of us, I want to find a nice middle ground between our ideas. Like, I'm never sure if my ideas are good or not, so I like bouncing them. Anyways, maybe they're from the same town/village and haven't seen eachother for years?

Len might make the push of if she's not useful they may need to drop her off at a town before she gets herself, or one of them hurt.

Thomas probably wouldn't mind terribly much, but might ask if she's okay being so close. Thomas would explain that her wings make her a rare exception compared to a lot of people. That exception might lead others to distrust, hate, or even lust after her. As such it would be best to hide them. Just to clarify, in case I had weird wording: I meant that until they use the wish, pheonixes could rebirth from ash as much as possible. But as soon as it's used, they can't anymore. Her DYING and coming back might unnerve Thomas to some level. He probably had to watch some person(s) die at some point. It would be really sad if he was going by the phrase "If you love something, set it free."

 

[Lumina]

Well, since it's the two of us, I want to find a nice middle ground between our ideas. Like, I'm never sure if my ideas are good or not, so I like bouncing them. Anyways, maybe they're from the same town/village and haven't seen eachother for years?

Len might make the push of if she's not useful they may need to drop her off at a town before she gets herself, or one of them hurt.

Thomas probably wouldn't mind terribly much, but might ask if she's okay being so close. Thomas would explain that her wings make her a rare exception compared to a lot of people. That exception might lead others to distrust, hate, or even lust after her. As such it would be best to hide them. Just to clarify, in case I had weird wording: I meant that until they use the wish, pheonixes could rebirth from ash as much as possible. But as soon as it's used, they can't anymore. Her DYING and coming back might unnerve Thomas to some level. He probably had to watch some person(s) die at some point. It would be really sad if he was going by the phrase "If you love something, set it free."

Hah, same though. Yeah, that would give them an excuse to get to know each other again.

Oof, that might get her to try it. She wouldn’t want to be left behind.

She might not completely understand his reasoning, but she’ll probably accept it because she doesn’t know otherwise. Oh yeah, I completely understood what you meant, since because she hasn’t granted the wish she’d come back, so she could die without much consequence. Yeah that might be at least a little unnerving, haha. Aw, you’re right. That is sad.

 

[Tobi Naefaerne]

Hah, same though. Yeah, that would give them an excuse to get to know each other again.

Oof, that might get her to try it. She wouldn’t want to be left behind.

She might not completely understand his reasoning, but she’ll probably accept it because she doesn’t know otherwise. Oh yeah, I completely understood what you meant, since because she hasn’t granted the wish she’d come back, so she could die without much consequence. Yeah that might be at least a little unnerving, haha. Aw, you’re right. That is sad.

Okay, so, the same hometown, what about reasons for leaving? I imagine Masahi was either taken into a military draft or ran off with some adventurers at some point. I feel like he would've spent at least a few years as an adventurer either way.

Ayen and Len both might compare dark magic to Len's polearm. It might be viewed as dangerous, but it all depends on who is using it. In one person's hands, it's only a weapon, but in someone else's a tool for helping others.

I'm sure they'd have enough time to talk while traveling that she could learn. There are probably different cultures around that world so Thomas might think she's from a small, isolated, peaceful one. Okay, just didn't want to confuse you because I confused my wording XD Maybe what age she revives at is determined by her first death? Like, upon reaching adulthood phoenixes purposely die so they don't revive at too old an age? He'd be checking her in almost every way he could just to verify what he just saw. Though, it brings to question how those wishes work. And yeah, it would be rather bittersweet.

 

[Tobi Naefaerne]

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[Lumina]

Okay, so, the same hometown, what about reasons for leaving? I imagine Masahi was either taken into a military draft or ran off with some adventurers at some point. I feel like he would've spent at least a few years as an adventurer either way.

Ayen and Len both might compare dark magic to Len's polearm. It might be viewed as dangerous, but it all depends on who is using it. In one person's hands, it's only a weapon, but in someone else's a tool for helping others.

I'm sure they'd have enough time to talk while traveling that she could learn. There are probably different cultures around that world so Thomas might think she's from a small, isolated, peaceful one. Okay, just didn't want to confuse you because I confused my wording XD Maybe what age she revives at is determined by her first death? Like, upon reaching adulthood phoenixes purposely die so they don't revive at too old an age? He'd be checking her in almost every way he could just to verify what he just saw. Though, it brings to question how those wishes work. And yeah, it would be rather bittersweet.

I'd say a military draft would make sense. And Kaori would of course study to be a priestess, and she'd end up a damn good one too. Where she can definitely hold her own. As for the twins: perhaps something happens to one of them, like Satsuki gets hurt/sick/etc, and they come across Masahi and ask for help. Masahi could bring them to Kaori who helps them out. once everything is better, Masahi and Kaori become unnofficial guardians of them, like a parental figure of sorts. And then depending on how Masahi and Kaori's relationship progresses, maybe they could adopt the twins? The twins could be fairly young when Masahi finds them as well.

True. I think Lilliana is just scared of herself and becoming just like her biological family. Like she know that Ayen and Len would be right, of course. But it's still scary. Though I imagine when she does learn how to use her powers, especially if she has the gene, that she'll be scary good at what she does and a scary good fighter.

Yeah, probably. Huh, yeah I could see phoenixes doing that. Hah, now I'm just imagining one day Lumina remembers that part about her species and she takes Thomas's weapon and just stabs herself and kills herself, coming back from the ashes and looking at a very concerned Thomas like "what's the matter?" Yeah, I'm not entirely sure on that part yet. Maybe its a part of their soul, that they give to whoever is using the wish? I'm sure Lumina wouldn't be happy at that wish. ORRRRR to be cheeky and keep Lumina around, maybe when he wishes for her to go home to her family, it looks like she's going to disappear but she just reappears right in front of Thomas, because now wherever he is is her home and he's the closest thing to family she's ever gotten.