Tales of Ristafel

CallSign said:
Bro, hold up a sec. I've been following this exchange for a while, and from where I'm sitting, it looks like you've been trying to woo Emerald by coddling her - treating her like a child. You quickly jumped to violence over the issue where there was no violence. Hachi is completely right here.
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While it may seem that way, Vallen will always stand up for anyone in emerald's shoes, and coddling her was not his intention. He does however, rightly think that people like Hachi are quick to take advantage of people like her, because it's easy. Hachi also showed no signs of stopping what he was doing after the non-violent efforts of the others, and was quick to insult those two might I add. Vallen is only quick to violence against those sorts of people. And if you read Vallen's remarks before he threw the punch, he stated all the things about Hachi that angered him, the way he was treating emerald being just one of very many.
 
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No no, you seem to have missed something. Hachi merely complimented Emerald on her motherly figure. Different cultures have different ways of acting, and as a samurai, Hachi is fully justified in physically examining her as he compliments her.


If I were a less intuitive person, I'd say that Vallen is actually jealous of Hachi's forwardness.
 
CallSign said:
No no, you seem to have missed something. Hachi merely complimented Emerald on her motherly figure. Different cultures have different ways of acting, and as a samurai, Hachi is fully justified in physically examining her as he compliments her.
If I were a less intuitive person, I'd say that Vallen is actually jealous of Hachi's forwardness.
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A valid point about cultures, but rather than being jealous Vallen sees Hachi's forwardness as disgusting and uncouth. He was raised by monks who value reservedness and respectfulness, and has only recently set out and begun understanding different types of mindsets. I'm not saying that Vallen's actions are entirely justified, but that the intentions and thinking behind his actions are being misconstrued. Also most of the other characters do not seem to be approving of Hachi's behavior either, and Vallen was pissed off more by Hachi's sexist musings at the point he threw the punch.
 
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So, uh, just to clarify, the Priest was only doing what he believed was right. Gustav does not stand for these perverted things, and he is a peace maker. He did not cast a spell, he simply allotted a prayer to his god, who gives him strength to provide divan interventions. Casting a holy shield around Emerald. It may appear to be magic, but it wasn't. And if he was referring to the priest calling upon a female Goddess as weak, well, i believe it is time to prove him wrong. The shield was one of his ways of keeping peace.
 
I'm fully aware of all that Darksoul. It's about half the reason for Vallen's outburst, that whole derogatory speech Hachi gave not knowing one goddamn thing about Gustav, his religion, or his ways, along with lumping half of the earth's sentient population into a stereotype. Vallen is only doing what he thinks is right as well. He has yet to learn that lashing out every time he sees what he believes is a wrongdoing within the very strict moral code usually only monks, priests and such abide by, will have more negative consequences than do any good.
 
It's idea is to burn projectiles mid air, and such, it also protects the user. The state of the shield is purely situationanal. If it were a sword strike it would be hard, if was a spell it would be abosorbtion. The idea of it is protection from all ill-intended attacks. Also, it isnt called holy shield, it is called holy Aegis. Aegis is a support or protection.


 
So, are we officially spiting into 2 groups now? Should we attempt to combine, or maybe we should start 2 separate threads?
 
I am going to have a longer day tomorrow, so i wont be on til late, if somthing happens, adn people leave on the adventure, jsut assume i blindy follow, trying to make friends and step in whenever a fight is about to break out, and doing, ya know, druidy priest things. Hoping i can get on again before to much happens, i should be on later Saturday night.
 
Ok so I'm not trying to be an ass here but, i just read ZeroHex's character and I doubt Bravest even approved it. cuz uh:


'Through a life-long dedication, Ajax has made his entire body as resilient as any armor and as dangerous as any weapon. He is as freakishly strong and tireless as any godforsaken monster and even attacks to a human's natural weakpoints such as the eyes, the joints, the groin and so on have no special effect on him. This extends to things that destroy bodies from within such as poisons as the like.'


and if that wasn't too much versatility and reliance already:


'Proud of his superhuman body and the primitive power it represents over that acquired through money, knowledge, social influence and other roundabout ways. So much so that he is able to use his body against things that should be unaffected by mere brute force, pitting his might directly against magic and the like. This kind of pride also allows him to ignore any sort of mind-altering effects, and attempts to invade his psyche will meet with as heavy a resistance as if Ajax was fighting the person directly.'


It seems to me like he built his charaacter solely on having no weaknessness and being able to destory everything. Again , not trying to be an ass but O.o
 
Well, i didn't read the character, but so far, he is jsut Barrel-Man and that is cool by me. As long as he isn't planning on god moding i am fine with it.
 
actually gimme like a second and I'll post the PM screencap right here and then get around to discussing this. Though for the record a player has already he's fine with it, so...
 
sorry dude, i prolly overreacted. it's just that these kind of chaacters in my experiences are the ones built entirely so that the player can godmod and crush anything in thier way like its nothing and ruin the whole rp. but as long as you don;t do that its k dude. again sorry.
 
Look, let's not fight here. I don't mind as long as you role play well, and by that, i mean, you dont completely wreak everything, laugh, and never die. Because, when i was younger, i did that, and now i see why that is not as fun. Personally i love writing my characters weaknesses being exploited, but that is just me. I don't really care if you have a screenshot or what. Just don't role play stupidly over powered and we are cool. Make it fun!


We are all here to have fun and enjoy a story we are creating, just don't ruin it with piety arguments, and characters who might as well be invincible.
 
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There's the PM. Now for arguments. Because hey, even if you want to drop it I'm not really one for not expressing my thoughts.


Your main complaint is versatility and reliability. Your post says so. And yes, Ajax's powers are reliable, but so are everyone else's, and he doesn't have anything else. He's a character built entirely around taking the melee fight. He's strong and tough and can bring an ass-whoopin at close range. This is a basic fighter setup shared across characters, except mine is flavored to go unarmed. Bravest's character has a lightweight, nigh-unbreakable super metal armor, a super alloy sword, several fighting styles that give him a wealth of options beyond brute forcing threats and some magic powers to boot, including a magic barrier that nulls damage.


Hachi has armor as well, several weapons including ranged ones, a giant killer bug mount and the ability to summon bees. Ophelia has swordsmanship and her natural blood magics, with more spells to come for that. Vallen's magic kung fu can crack any armor as long as he infuses enough juice into it, you said so yourself, and that serves as a replacement for strength. He also has enhanced physicality geared towards agility rather than strength and toughness, so rather than be strong and tank, he uses magic punches and dodges to fill the same role. Except he also comes with a special chakram that he can recall and healing magics as well.


Catch my drift? Hell, Ragnvald has physical abilities and martial arts skills as good as Ajax's or better in some areas (walk on water, anything agility related), while Belladonna is a rogue type character that is also perfectly capable of filling the same role as Ajax because of natural dragonkind bonuses, along with the ability to fly, and you don't see me bitching about them.
 
yea, you have proved my points invalid. Idk it's just the way i first read it made me think "holy shit this guy can do everything" but now that i think of it you could say similar things about vallen and lots of the others. i apoligize and wish us all the best trhoughout the rp! ( :) )
 
I'd like to get in on this, but being new I haven't hit the post count for PMs yet. I'll send a sheet through once I have.
 
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