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[Quinlan63]

Attention: I have created a new special subclass Retainer

 

[Quinlan63]

Sizniche Hey you there?

 

[Sizniche]

Sizniche Hey you there?

Yis

 

[Quinlan63]

Yis

Hey can you tell me what you think of this

https://www.rpnation.com/threads/dodge-chance-and-movement-speed.334272/#post-7895471

 

[Sizniche]

Hey can you tell me what you think of this

https://www.rpnation.com/threads/dodge-chance-and-movement-speed.334272/#post-7895471

I like it, but I think having a hard cap on speed might get boring, especially since the late game is almost certainly going to be focused on high-power play. Not to mention that there should probably be a base speed. 0.5 mph for one agility is a bit of a handicap

Here's my suggestion:

Player on-foot speed=((square root)Player Agility) * 4

Speeds for various agility scores on this equation
1: 4 mph
4: 8 mph
9: 12 mph
16: 16 mph
25: 20 mph
36: 24 mph
49: 28 mph
64: 32 mph

This way, there's no hard limit, so there's still a distinction between high AGI and low AGI players in the late game, but it also gets harder to get faster as the game goes on. For example, to break 50 mph, you have to make it to 157 agility. I doubt anyone will ever break 100 mph, because you would have to have an Agility of 625 or higher.

Your dodge formula is perfect from what I could tell, though.

 

[Sizniche]

Hey can you tell me what you think of this

https://www.rpnation.com/threads/dodge-chance-and-movement-speed.334272/#post-7895471

For example, I'm going to have Max gift Toasty to Clancy until he has the Fencer class. This means that his Agility will be 27, meaning he'll be able to go about 20.8 mph.

 

[Quinlan63]

I like it, but I think having a hard cap on speed might get boring, especially since the late game is almost certainly going to be focused on high-power play. Not to mention that there should probably be a base speed. 0.5 mph for one agility is a bit of a handicap

Here's my suggestion:

Player on-foot speed=((square root)Player Agility) * 4

Speeds for various agility scores on this equation
1: 4 mph
4: 8 mph
9: 12 mph
16: 16 mph
25: 20 mph
36: 24 mph
49: 28 mph
64: 32 mph

This way, there's no hard limit, so there's still a distinction between high AGI and low AGI players in the late game, but it also gets harder to get faster as the game goes on. For example, to break 50 mph, you have to make it to 157 agility. I doubt anyone will ever break 100 mph, because you would have to have an Agility of 625 or higher.

Your dodge formula is perfect from what I could tell, though.

Ok then just what do you mean by square root

Otherwise based on what you are saying this could work much more effectively

 

[Quinlan63]

Nevermind I figured it out

 

[Sizniche]

Nevermind I figured it out

Took the liberty of graphing our agility equations for comparative purposes. Blue is yours, red is mine, purple is where yours cuts off. As you can see, they are at about the same point at 60 agility.

 

[Quinlan63]

Took the liberty of graphing our agility equations for comparative purposes. Blue is yours, red is mine, purple is where yours cuts off. As you can see, they are at about the same point at 60 agility.

Interesting and with that it doesn't have the problem of going too high based on what it would of been if I kept the hardcap

 

[Sizniche]

Interesting and with that it doesn't have the problem of going too high based on what it would of been if I kept the hardcap

Yep, it's designed to keep balance and interest at the same time.

Boy, you're lucky I took the exact same algebra class 5 years in a row for no reason other than the fact that the American school system is terrible and inefficient.

 

[Quinlan63]

Yep, it's designed to keep balance and interest at the same time.

Boy, you're lucky I took the exact same algebra class 5 years in a row for no reason other than the fact that the American school system is terrible and inefficient.

Yeah I had a feeling you were the right choice on who to ask about this matter

 

[Sizniche]

Yeah I had a feeling you were the right choice on who to ask about this matter

Also, I'd recommend having a different equation for battle mounts ( such as (square root of agility) * 8) because battle mounts would otherwise have to have astronomically high agility to be twice as fast as players.

 

[Quinlan63]

Also, I'd recommend having a different equation for battle mounts ( such as (square root of agility) * 8) because battle mounts would otherwise have to have astronomically high agility to be twice as fast as players.

True I was thinking about that after the fact and you are right.

 

[Sizniche]

True I was thinking about that after the fact and you are right.

Also you might want to have a dodge penalty for mounted enemies and players, since they are on the back of the horse and would probably be harder to hit anyways because they're moving so fast

 

[Quinlan63]

Also you might want to have a dodge penalty for mounted enemies and players, since they are on the back of the horse and would probably be harder to hit anyways because they're moving so fast

Maybe

But wouldn't you just use the battle mount numbers to figure that out

 

[Sizniche]

Maybe

But wouldn't you just use the battle mount numbers to figure that out

Yeh, but creatures are unwieldy beasts to dodge on/make dodge something, and being on a mount would be an inherent advantage anyway, since you can go full Mount and Blade and run circles around your target to lance them to death.

 

[Quinlan63]

Yeh, but creatures are unwieldy beasts to dodge on/make dodge something, and being on a mount would be an inherent advantage anyway, since you can go full Mount and Blade and run circles around your target to lance them to death.

Ok then what do you suggest?

I normally would just give a flat increase to minimize the math work (which we already have a lot)

 

[Sizniche]

Ok then what do you suggest?

I normally would just give a flat increase to minimize the math work (which we already have a lot)

Your dodge chance is slashed to half on a mount.

 

[Quinlan63]

Your dodge chance is slashed to half on a mount.

So wait we are making dodging harder?

I guess so

 

[Sizniche]

So wait we are making dodging harder?

I guess so

On a mount, because usually mounted combat is based on constant motion, so non-mounted players won't have as many opportunities to hit them.

 

[Quinlan63]

On a mount, because usually mounted combat is based on constant motion, so non-mounted players won't have as many opportunities to hit them.

Ok makes sense, especially because some of the best mounts can fly anyway

 

[Sizniche]

Ok makes sense, especially because some of the best mounts can fly anyway

Okay, don't forget to make the change so we don't forget

Also, on the subject of Max's crafting skill: does his have any chance at all to make gear from the next tier up since he has WoaM-IV?

 

[Quinlan63]

Okay, don't forget to make the change so we don't forget

Also, on the subject of Max's crafting skill: does his have any chance at all to make gear from the next tier up since he has WoaM-IV?

Changes done

Hmmmmm 5% for a Heroic Item

I need to make a better way to determine what are the odds of making anything at a certain tier

 

[Quinlan63]

Sizniche This is what I am thinking of having the crafting odds at. WoaM would increase your odds

Mythic 5%
Legendary 10%
Heroic 20%

Unique 30%
Rare 40%
Common 100%