Nation Building Second Dawn OOC

[Yang Xiao Long]

Terrifying if you knew what I had.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

Probs, most factions with kit like that have less that 1500 soldiers

I was smart enough to prioritize main military and fighting force in an apocalyptic world full of unknown mutants and intense radiation....is that the problem?

 

[Yang Xiao Long]

I was smart enough to prioritize main military and fighting force in an apocalyptic world full of unknown mutants and intense radiation....is that the problem?

Question do you have the ability to manufacture over 8000 Prewar rifles, cause scavenging them would be really difficult.

 

[General Deth Glitch]

...are you trying to nerf me?

I have done it with every other faction. I am trying to create a balance without removing creativity. When you can have expansive nations with bullet sponges for militaries facing 100 soldiers with advanced training. Balance is difficult and dynamic.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

I have done it with every other faction. I am trying to create a balance without removing creativity. When you can have expansive nations with bullet sponges for militaries facing 100 soldiers with advanced training. Balance is difficult and dynamic.

Ok, so what if I take out the modified version of my main gun, and only give police force various firearms.

 

[Yang Xiao Long]

Ok, so what if I take out the modified version of my main gun, and only give police force various firearms.

Modified how?

 

[CharmingCthulhu]

I chose my handicap of having small manpower and a weakness to firearms, but when a nation has that good of equipment and 4x your manpower in only the "standard" army, maybe some balancing could be in order.

 

[General Deth Glitch]

Ok, so what if I take out the modified version of my main gun, and only give police force various firearms.

you have 15,000 soldiers all equipped with prewar Assault Rifles
Removing the police just lowers that to about 13,000

 

[Yang Xiao Long]

I chose my handicap of having small manpower and a weakness to firearms, but when a nation has that good of equipment and 4x your manpower in only the "standard" army, maybe some balancing could be in order.

I honestly thought you army was like 10x or more when I saw it's equipment

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

you have 15,000 soldiers all equipped with prewar Assault Rifles
Removing the police just lowers that to about 13,000

Ok, so I'm not willing to give up the numbers, so what if I give them apocalypse made assault rifles? Like pipe guns and crap. (What kind of nerf would I need to include).

 

[Yang Xiao Long]

Ok, so I'm not willing to give up the numbers, so what if I give them apocalypse made assault rifles? Like pipe guns and crap. (What kind of nerf would I need to include).

The sounds like decent alternative no? Also that's what Moscow has and they have a standing army of 68k

When it comes to Prewar tech, my military does use exclusively Prewar tech. But I only have 250 Marines.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

The sounds like decent alternative no? Also that's what Moscow has and they have a standing army of 68k

When it comes to Prewar tech, my military does use exclusively Prewar tech. But I only have 250 Marines.

Only Deth can decide. Also be careful, you might have it balanced, but expansion will be tough with only 250 soldiers.

 

[General Deth Glitch]

Only Deth can decide. Also be careful, you might have it balanced, but expansion will be tough with only 250 soldiers.

If all your guns are inaccurate and prone to jamming then we will probably be ok. But you cant have them be prewar military guns because... they are neither.

 

[CharmingCthulhu]

Only Deth can decide. Also be careful, you might have it balanced, but expansion will be tough with only 250 soldiers.

Not everything is shooty shooty blow up bang bang, I mean sure it might be the apocalypse and radiation covers the majority of the Earth, but diplomacy still exists.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

If all your guns are inaccurate and prone to jamming then we will probably be ok. But you cant have them be prewar military guns because... they are neither.

Alright, and I can keep the training/advanced training, correct?

 

[Yang Xiao Long]

Only Deth can decide. Also be careful, you might have it balanced, but expansion will be tough with only 250 soldiers.

The military expansion tough yes. The territory and Militia expansion not really.

Compared to most of the others people would jump to join me.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

Not everything is shooty shooty blow up bang bang, I mean sure it might be the apocalypse and radiation covers the majority of the Earth, but diplomacy still exists.

Yea, but to mutants, it's shoot shoot bang bang.

 

[Yang Xiao Long]

Yea, but to mutants, it's shoot shoot bang bang.

12g slug will put down most anything.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

The military expansion tough yes. The territory and Militia expansion not really.

Compared to most of the others people would jump to join me.

I mean, fighting mutants and other bandits and deasiese and radiation with 250 soldiers= hard territory expansion.

 

[General Deth Glitch]

Alright, and I can keep the training/advanced training, correct?

Both those terms are pretty loose, to be honest. They also change with time. But yes. Though when it comes to hitting a target with a sub-par weapon, training only achieves so much.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

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Both those terms are pretty loose, to be honest. They also change with time. But yes. Though when it comes to hitting a target with a sub-par weapon, training only achieves so much.

That's where Moscows logic comes in.

 

[CharmingCthulhu]

General Deth Glitch When did you say this RP would get going?

 

[General Deth Glitch]

General Deth Glitch When did you say this RP would get going?

Possibly tonight. Just trying to realise who is actually accepted and do some MATHS.

 

[CharmingCthulhu]

Possibly tonight. Just trying to realise who is actually accepted and do some MATHS.

Sweet, when it goes up will there be rules and such so we know what we can and can not do when expanding, diplomatic(ing), and such.

 

[General Deth Glitch]

Rules:
1. Site Rules
2. No Godmodding
3. No Meta. NO META!
4. Wars are to be run via a moderated Honour System. Effectively you control it and I just make sure its alright. Stop you being silly and, when needed, I can help decide outcomes.
5. Expansion will be managed thusly, you can increase you area by about 50% a 'page' each page will be equivalent to about two weeks. This continues until the land you wish to claim is within 100km of another players border. (How that works I will explain [and totally not figure out] later.) When you are expanding over a city I may or may not have some obstacle (Or reward) lying within for your benefit.
6. Diplomacy is more or less up to you. Provided you don't choose to quit by literally giving your nation away (Which is a just BS way to leave.) you can do more or less what you want. Treaties over land borders (Which will play into the near border expansion), forming an alliance or confederation or even 'lending' troops to each other for various reasons. They are all OK so long as there is an IC reason for those interactions.
7. 11
(Will add more as I think of them or feel new ones are needed, thoughs and opinions thusfar?)