Nightmares of the Third Age

I hate to be a dick about this, but I really do not want to play with the lunar homebrew. I don't feel like learning an entirely new book's worth of information when 3E is around the corner.
 
Ah, yeah I'll also apologize if I came off too hostile. Tired, not thinking things through properly.
 
Also, would you accept this charm:


Heretical Charm:


The Path of Thorns


Cost: - Mins: Essence 6 Type: Permanent


Keywords: Heretical


Duration: Permanent


Prerequisite Charms: Swallowing the Scorpion, Face of the Titans


The Devil-Tiger, now a completely different being from his former Yozi masters, shall never again be defined as a being related to them. For now with the power of their own shaped and unique Exaltation, they redefine themselves not as the Champions of Hell, but as a new Titan.


After learning this charm, the Devil-Tiger is no longer considered to be a Creature of Darkness. Mechanically this works by shifting the Devil-Tiger's own self as a unique entity. They no longer qualify as a Creature of Darkness since they are no longer "a servant of the Yozi". However, this charm does not prevent the Devil-Tiger from becoming a Creature of Darkness, nor the things that follow as a result of that. But a Devil-Tiger is unique and must be labeled specifically as a Creature of Darkness, adding "all Devil-Tigers" or any broad category to the list will not instantly turn all DT's into Creatures of Darkness.
 
I, also, want to stick with the Lunars I know from the book. I have my sheet 90% done, and I'm almost finished with my background. I sure do not wish to start all over from scratch with a new set of rules for my build.
 
A good question, one I might take as well if accepted. I'm no creature of darkness... just a contrary creature! xD
 
I'm pretty sure Devil-Tigers still count as Creatures of Darkness, and it's not something that any one charm, or even an array of charms, can remove.
 
Not even high essence Solars. They could inflict the condition, but I don't think they could remove it. ONLY the Unconquered Sun can do that.
 
That was why I made this charm though. The whole point of the Devil-Tiger process is, in my opinion, is to gain the ability to ascend into true power. Think of it like true freedom, the ability to determine one's own path. The mantle of being a "CoD" still says on Infernals but now after their ascension, the Devil-Tigers are just a completely different entity that are not really human, but still have an exaltation attached between their souls.


And like I said, it's not removing the designation, but rather shifting the DT's nature so the designation doesn't match so the Devil-Tiger is not technically a CoD. It's a loophole.
 
Maybe so, but you're still a baby primordial, and all primordials are CoD. Talk to the Sun if you want the label removed, otherwise it's going to stick.
 
I personally don't see it possible. You don't decide to be a CoD to begin with, as such you're not in charge of removing that condition on your own. Hell, if Five Days Darkness is a CoD I can't see a Yozi tainted Shard not being one. You might be an entirely new Titan, but you're still branded as a CoD by Sol's law.


Edit: Regarding the loophole, I don't see that possible either. If a Yozi can't do it to escape it's prison, you shouldn't be able to either.
 
Here is a backstory to chew on.

You may not believe it, but Renna was a very lucky girl. Being born blind in another family, she may have been left out in the wilderness for nature to finish off. But, her family was one of the North’s more powerful merchant houses, and they had the money to hire the nurses needed to care for the poor girl. Despite her handicap, Renna quickly grew into a lovely young woman. With her keen hearing and exceptional sense of balance, she was able to maneuver around her home with ease, and with the aid of her teachers, she became quite the skilled dancer, using her exceptional grace to amaze the people that had the pleasure of seeing her perform. Under the watchful eyes of her guides, Renna was frequently seen out and about the icy streets of Icehome, and overall, was quite content with her lot in life.


One spring day, Renna took the opportunity to go and visit family located far south in the city of Whitewall. Traveling with a group of trusted companions, her easy going life was rudely interrupted by a raiding party of Fae, out looking for easy prey. The guards of the little caravan fought for their lives with vigor, but were soon overwhelmed by the ferocity of the Fae. Renna was soon rounded up with her mother, her sister, and the three ladies in waiting that were traveling with the family. The six women huddled together, crying, wondering what was to happen to them. Finally, an idea came to Renna, a wildly crazy idea that, if it worked, might just be the ticket to freedom for her and her family.


Still under the watchful eyes of the guards, Renna made the comment, “I thought that the Cataphractoi were supposed to be graceful warriors, not a bunch of clumsy, elephant footed louts!” Her reward was a hand across the face. She spits out a mouthful of blood and laughs. “I guess that the truth hurts, huh?” She doesn’t wince as she hears the arm being pulled back for another blow, but the goblin’s had is stopped by his master. With a voice of smooth silken dreams, he asks her, “What would you know of graceful, little blind girl?” “I know enough to say that you sound more like a wounded yeddim loping around in circles instead of a skilled dancer. Hell, I bet that even I can dance better than you can!” A dangerous silence greeted the shocking challenge. The warrior-prince reached out with his mailed hand and softly stroked her face. “A bold statement from a little blind girl. You speak of bets? What could you possibly offer me that I don’t already have in my hand?” Renna smiles. “I know of your kind. You ravage those that you take. What is better for you? A captive, or a willing servant? I make you this deal. I bet that I can out dance you, right here right now, in front of all your followers. If I do, you release my family. If I don’t, I will be yours, freely given to be used as you see fit.” Renna’s mother cries out in dismay, but she is not to be swayed from her path. “So who would be the judge of this contest? You and yours, little blind girl?” “No need. Can your followers be trusted to speak the truth of what they see? Who can know true beauty better than the Fae?” Renna holds her breath in anticipation. Finally, the Cataphractoi nods in acceptance. “Very well. I agree! If nothing else, you will provide some much needed diversion for my weary men.”


She danced. But it was so much more. Renna was able to reach levels of skill that she had never known before. Moving to the beat of the drum, she flowed from one position to another, reaching deep inside her for inspiration. Finally, Renna collapses on the ground, completely spent, gasping for breath in the cold. Over the sound of her beating heart, she can hear the sounds of the goblin horde roaring their approval. She couldn’t believe her ears! She had won against impossible odds. Her family would be safe.


The leader of the band claps his hands together and the crowd fall silent. “Well done! I have never seen the like, even from our best performers! You will make a fine addition to the court of the Ice Queen!” Renna looks up from where she has fallen. “I won, and you agreed to let us go!” “No, I agreed to let your family go, not you. You, little blind girl, are mine. Take her, and leave the rest. It is time to go.”


The next several years were ones of humiliation and sorrow. Renna was kept prisoner, in the same way a parakeet was kept in a gilded cage, forced to perform for the court that held her captive. But she never gave up in her efforts to escape. Time and time again, she was tracked down and hauled back to the Fae court for her punishment. Finally, Renna’s deliverance was at hand. As she lay in bed, broken and bleeding, her room was filled with a silver light that even the blind Renna could sense. Out of the light, a beautiful woman approached her, and sat down on the bed next to her. Brushing her hair out of her tear streaked face, the woman spoke. “I have watched you, young one. From the very first steps you took to the day you challenged a Fae noble to a dance duel and won, I have watched you. Every escape attempt, every beating for insubordination, my hand was holding yours. Now, I am here with you to grant you the gift of Exaltation. Rise, my child, and show them that my Chosen are not to be trifled with.” A sudden infusion of power lifted Renna from the bed, and her already impressive senses were increased to superhuman levels. Even with her eyes still denied the light, she could see the room around her. With her wounds now closed, Renna proceeds to fight her way out, past the various guards that were tasked with watching over her.


Free for the first time in years, Renna takes to the sky and flies.
 
The Primordials are likely not CoD. Gaia and Auto are free from that distinction. All but 1 known but unnamed Primordial are Yozi which are CoD. But I see where you are going with this. The Sun did mark Yozi and their charms as long as they are running deep through you will mark you personally until well the Sun says, "You've done good," COD removal.
 
JayTee said:
Talk to the Sun if you want the label removed, otherwise it's going to stick.
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The problem is that you LITERALLY can't talk to the Sun, not unless you get really lucky. He's too busy snorting Celestial Cocaine, remember? I do have an ally up in Yu-Shan, but I'm guessing that it won't work.


But I guess it's up to the ST's decision.
 
Well, the fact that I freed Isli from the Brass Leviathan might get some Water sprits on my side, especially if she overthrows Kermit's overgrown grandma...
 
Besides the reasoning I have for it, to me it seems like a cheap way of playing a transhumanist Exalt without one of the few disadvantages of playing a creature alien to Creation, and that is being a CoD. You already have powers every other splat would kill for, being a CoD seems like a small price to pay for them.
 
JayTee said:
What.
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I was in the West and my character's motivation/urge is to "Judge if the Solars are worthy to rule Creation again". Kermit's overgrown mother is that gross frog dragon thingy.

[QUOTE="Lord-Leafar]Besides the reasoning I have for it, to me it seems like a cheap way of playing a transhumanist Exalt without one of the few disadvantages of playing a creature alien to Creation, and that is being a CoD. You already have powers every other splat would kill for, being a CoD seems like a small price to pay for them.

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I'm outside of fate, which can be an advantage. Not to mention having a CoD designation paints a big target for Solars. The moment they see me, BAM! It's like the Wyld Hunt but with ten times more damage.


Edit: Yes, yes I did. U mad bro?
 
To be fair, we only need to worry about our Circle's Holy AoE abilities. Those with holy powers beyond that circle... well that is what the Solars, Lunars, and Sidereal are for, that and long range powers, or... good decent PDs? In fact... I think that would a better use of the PD than normal soakable attacks. ^^
 
[QUOTE="Seeker of the End]I'm outside of fate, which can be an advantage. Not to mention having a CoD designation paints a big target for Solars. The moment they see me, BAM! It's like the Wyld Hunt but with ten times more damage.

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I'm gonna play an Abyssal, I don't get Out of Fate status, I am as much CoD as you can get, and I can't act at my best in Creation. I don't see a reason to complain about being an Infernal honestly.
 
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