Nightmares of the Third Age

Thank you. It did take like 4 revisions before I was satisfied with it. ^^ It probably needs a bit of refining but it was still a fun write.
 
Do you have any general guidelines on custom artifacts? And would it be possible to create a sét of artifacts (a spear and a shield) that counted as only one with respect to charms (Honoured Companion of the Sun and Protection of Celestial Bliss).
 
Esbilon: I would say two artifacts but their unique power would be to count one for some charm effects, i guess. General guidelines for custom artifacts, not really, just propose it and I'll make a call on the cost or deny it, if it is too ridiculous.


JayTee: Ah I remember now, was asked a question about crafting rules, considering how ridiculous it always was. Craft is one skill, by default all the basic crafts are included, for the other special crafts, you need to buy them as specialty and still meet their usual prerequesites. Like someone who wants to use genesis will need some occult and medicine etc...
 
Esbilon said:
Do you have any general guidelines on custom artifacts? And would it be possible to create a sét of artifacts (a spear and a shield) that counted as only one with respect to charms (Honoured Companion of the Sun and Protection of Celestial Bliss).
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For having both benefit from both Charms with only one activation/purchase... Smells like cheddar to me.
 
[QUOTE="MaHaSuchi's700]For having both benefit from both Charms with only one activation/purchase... Smells like cheddar to me.

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Why? Wielding two weapons is supremely underpowered in Exalted. It is more expensive in terms of artifact dots and commitment, the only things it gives you is (very little) versatility, rate and defense. Damage is typically substantially less.


Now that I think about it Protection of Celestial Bliss doesn't do anything for the shield when Honoured Companion of the Sun is active, so it's really just that one charm working for a pair of weapons instead of one at a time.
 
Are you kidding me? It gives you free perfect blocks. Whether you put in on the spear or shield, that benefit is still incredible. Did you make two purchases of HCotS, one for the spear and one for the shield?
 
[QUOTE="MaHaSuchi's700]Are you kidding me? It gives you free perfect blocks.

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Ah, yes, that would be overpowered and not what I meant.

[QUOTE="MaHaSuchi's700]Whether you put in on the spear or shield, that benefit is still incredible. Did you make two purchases of HCotS, one for the spear and one for the shield?

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So far I have not statted my character, so I have not made any purchases ;) But if I were to fight with spear and shield in the traditional way where the spear is only for offense and the shield only for defense, I feel it is unfair that I should pay twice for what is effectively one generalized weapon that happens to be distributed in two items.
 
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She's also a spear-fighter which could go well with or cut into your thematics, Lord-Leafar, depending on the point og view.
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Well I was going the solo spear route, no shield, but it seems we might be going for some of the same charms, so it really depends on the imagery and stunts of our actions, but there might be some similar aspects of both fighting styles, then again, I'm going for a Monster of the Void, Vlad the Impaler vibe...
 
[QUOTE="Lord-Leafar]Well I was going the solo spear route, no shield, but it seems we might be going for some of the same charms, so it really depends on the imagery and stunts of our actions, but there might be some similar aspects of both fighting styles, then again, I'm going for a Monster of the Void, Vlad the Impaler vibe...

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The imagery is going to be quite different I think. But yeah, I expect to see a large overlap in our charmsets. We'll see, and possibly tweak when mechanics hit the table.
 
Esbilon said:
Ah, yes, that would be overpowered and not what I meant.
So far I have not statted my character, so I have not made any purchases ;) But if I were to fight with spear and shield in the traditional way where the spear is only for offense and the shield only for defense, I feel it is unfair that I should pay twice for what is effectively one generalized weapon that happens to be distributed in two items.
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Shields are weapons in both that traditional style and in the mechanics of this game, though. The shield strike/shove is nothing new. HCotS is ridiculously good, and only having to purchase it once so you can cherry pick where its bonuses go seems quite a bit more unfair than being forced to spend one more of the 45 Charms you're allotted on it (ignoring the 35BP that can easily net you another 11).
 
Does anyone have any requests for charms that I pick up so I can support people? I am taking Auspicious Recruitment Drive + the entire Sail and Survival tree to help out Jay Tee. Also ST I wanted to take a 5 dot celestial manse because it would be a nice setting piece, since we need to unite the various factions of the world we can wine and dine some gods in a palace. I was thinking of a suitable hearthstone for this and the Stone of Inhuman Beauty caught my eye but its only a 4 dot hearthstone, can you think of a way to boost it up to a 5 dot stone? Maybe give it a presence bonus or something.
 
Boost it a little more, I'll think about it.


As for the shield/spear thingy, maybe Ebsilon might just want to consider making one "Armored" spear. Essentially a spear that can split itself into a shield and spear. As for how it would work...I'll leave that up to you.


Mahasuchi does have a good point that charm wise, it shouldn't really be an issue and considering that Solars have excellent ways to add to their peripheral motes and arguably the best overdrive charms out there. So you might want to consider just buying the charm twice. Frankly with 45 charms, especially if you only use melee, you will quickly find out that you don't have many charms that you need to buy.


The dragonblooded rules for the fae folks, yeah sure.
 
[QUOTE="Kaji-Oni]Does anyone have any requests for charms that I pick up so I can support people? I am taking Auspicious Recruitment Drive + the entire Sail and Survival tree to help out Jay Tee. Also ST I wanted to take a 5 dot celestial manse because it would be a nice setting piece, since we need to unite the various factions of the world we can wine and dine some gods in a palace. I was thinking of a suitable hearthstone for this and the Stone of Inhuman Beauty caught my eye but its only a 4 dot hearthstone, can you think of a way to boost it up to a 5 dot stone? Maybe give it a presence bonus or something.

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You can have a a 5 dot Manse generate a 4 dot stone, it just siphons off the excess levels into Manse powers.
 
ST, I assume most of the game will happen in Creation, so I would like to point your attention to this custom Abyssal Hearthstone for your approval, any changes or input is welcome:


Abyssal Hearthstone •••• | Underworld's Blood Gem


This gemstone it's a rather ugly rock the size of an eye ball with a dull grey color. In itself the stone provides no effect other than the usual essence recovery, but the wielder discovers greater benefits if he carries one or more hearthstones from the Underworld. If any such gem is attuned by the wielder along with this stone, the normally grey stone turns a dark vibrant red, allowing any Underworld gemstones to function normally in Creation as they do in the Underworld, while providing the wielder a necrotic aura that counts as being surrounded by the trappings of the dead.
 
They look alright actually. If I have a problem later on with some of the charms, I'll let you know. But right now, I consider them to be okay.


As for the sutras rework, I'm still thinking about it.
 
Ok so as a Solaroid we can buy up to Essence 6, but only through the Essence cap expander charms am I right?


Also, would you be ok with an Abyssal Mirror version of Honored Companion of the Sun named something like Terrifying Slave of the Void?
 
SGambits.


HoCS mirror for abyssal, it should be okay but give me a little bit to double check why they didn't make a mirror of it for Abyssal.
 
I'm putting the final polish on my character. I should have her done later today.
 
Goddamnbatman said:
As for the shield/spear thingy, maybe Ebsilon might just want to consider making one "Armored" spear. Essentially a spear that can split itself into a shield and spear. As for how it would work...I'll leave that up to you.
Mahasuchi does have a good point that charm wise, it shouldn't really be an issue and considering that Solars have excellent ways to add to their peripheral motes and arguably the best overdrive charms out there. So you might want to consider just buying the charm twice. Frankly with 45 charms, especially if you only use melee, you will quickly find out that you don't have many charms that you need to buy.
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I fail to see how "you're rich, just go ahead and throw money out the window" is a convincing argument, but it's not a big deal. I like shield and spear for the traditional imagery, not for the +2 DV it nets me. But it's not a big deal, I'll just get a shield that has secondary powers that makes it worthwhile.
 
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