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Haku1

Haku1

Ze Hamster of Lurkdom
Because, let's be honest... we all have our naughty thoughts regarding exalted and the lil tibits hidden here and there in our games.


This site makes absolutely no excuses. You're there, because you're adults with a Live Journal Blog or you're just damn curious and got pulled in by the power of p0rn!


In any event, I present to The NC17 Exalted LJ community. Just click on the name.


Pity, you need to be a member to do any posts. ^_-
 
*eyes* Stillborn and Joseph... oh ho? I take it then that sex as a concept does not exist in your games? And that children come because a spirit stork delivers 'em?... wait... that actually sounds quite possible...  :shock:
 
I recognize that sex exists in Exalted, I just don't have naughty thoughts concerning it.


-S
 
Haku said:
Because, let's be honest... we all have our naughty thoughts regarding exalted and the lil tibits hidden here and there in our games.
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I don't. Anyone who does needs to get a fucking life, says I.
 
Haku--Naughty is in the eye of the beholder...or at least on the shelf near the riding crop and the latex body suit paint.


While I do have the occasional naughty thought--more than occasional if you are extra vanilla like Little Joe--I don't think that editing a forum to exclude adult themes is neccessary. Most themes, I think, can be discussed fair open.


Rape. Incest. Fetishes. Adultery. All of these things can have a place in game, if they advance the story, and shying away from the themes doesn't make a chronicle any less or more "adult", it just means that the stories don't include snogging or what some might call 'perversions.'


Yes, making jokes about the Scarlet Empress' boobies can be funny, but WTF?  They put her camel toe on the cover a book already...I think that it's pretty much already there.  If folks are old enough to buy the books with their hard earned money, they can pretty much talk about themes, that's fine.


Your site might be good if folks want to put up large sized Exalted cheesecake pictures, which will eat up space. I can applaud the effort to keep Still's bills down, and keep the space clutter free. But, as for talking about naughty...how naughty is naughty?


Sex, period?  Incest?  Exalts running around in barely there armored bikinis?  Hentai inspired themes?  BD/SM Abyssals and the Infernals who enable them? Naughty is purely subjective.  Kinky is prety much there as well.  What I find pretty normal, Little Joe gets skeevied by, and what I consider vanilla could be an exciting Friday night for some folks. What I consider naughty might be a bit of dress up for others.


I think that we can probably get along pretty well without the extra effort, overall.  Unless of course you've got some excellent porn...
 
Yes' date=' making jokes about the Scarlet Empress' boobies can be funny, but WTF?  They put her camel toe on the cover a book already...[/quote']
Since when was the Scarlet Empress on a cover, much less with a camel toe?


-S
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I thought that was a shot of the SE on the cover of the new Sorcery sourcebook...
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I suppose it might be, but I still don't see a camel toe.


-S
 
Jakk Bey is right about the camel tow on Sorcerer and Savant.  In fact my Fiancee hates that book because of the cover alone.
 
I haven't seen as many  semi nude drawings in RPG books as I have seen in  any of the exalted books.  I thinkt he Main book is the only one that was clean I could be wrong though I haven't gone through and counted.
 
The gauzy, diphaneous costume with the impression of the SE's vulva framed with anime style shade toning is JUST on my copy then? I don't think so...


Mind you, I paint and illustrate. It's not accidental--cheesecake is never accidental. And I seem to recall a great deal of debate about it when Savant and Sorcerer came out.


Take your copy out again, or check it out, even on the crappy graphics from the WW site:


http://secure1.white-wolf.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=498
 
I reject that definition. The "camel toe" is so named because of it's similarity in appearance to the foot of a camel, the important feature being the cleft.


What appears on the cover of S&S is merely a scantily clad crotch.


-S
 
Reject it all you want--but you have to admit that if you call it camel toe or "scantily clad crotch"--both of which are about as unappealing and unromantic a way to describe the Gates of Heaven--you can't deny that WW is doing just a fine job of creating a game where cheesecake is a norm--as do most fantasy games.


You're not seeing any less cheesecake than you'd find on the cover of a Edgar Rice Bouroughs novel, and certainly no more either. And that is the impression that I get from WW that it's supposed to be.


High Fantasy has always had a little thrill of naughtiness to costuming--from H. Rider Haggard's She to H.G. Wells' Eloi.  There's no shame to it--considering that High Fantasy and naughty are pretty much Victorian inventions as well...
 
I ordered that book from Amazon without seeing a good picture of the cover.  Not only did it get to Afghanistan in record time from the states, but when I saw that cover I wondered if it was exalted or some sort of mix up from Things From Another World.


 As far as being the Empress though...  I thought her hair was a bit more red..  That chic's obviously blonde considering her expression, costume, and of course hair color.
 
I should note that it's not -my- site, rather it's something I'm pushing on behalf of its Creator... MUran... even if she doesn't know that I'm pushing it here... 8)
 
It's almost assuredly not the Scarlet Empress on the cover of Savant and Sorcerer, but it clearly is a ridiculous picture that does a good job pointing out why people in the video game and roleplay industries are very hard to take seriously.  Between form fitting female armor with clevage exposure, gratuitous nudity, and forcing sexual commentary into as many situations as possible, these people come off as sex-obsessed teenagers, and I can't say the quality of their writing lately has done much to discourage that idea.


"Camel toe" or no, the picture is just plain silly.
 
Little Joe--Folks are taking the video game industry seriously. It's a multi-billion dollar industry, with a better profit margin than film, and it spawns film and marketing licenses just as well. It's a cash cow, and people across the board are taking it very seriously.


And not just folks in Japan, Korea, or China either.


Is the cover silly? Yes, because it's not a great illustration. The purient nature of the imagery isn't the sticking point--it's a cootch shot with melon heavy breasts, but that's been done a lot, and not just for hentai game covers--but the poor composition. It doesn't do anything really to drive home the idea or illustrate much about the nature of the book or the subject matter. It's a girl in diphaneous costume, showing off what the Primordials gave her.


That's a long held and respected tradition in the selling of product--look at the work of Alphonse Mucha as a wonderful example.* Lots of gals, lots of diphaneous costuming, lots of selling, but the difference is not really the taste--at the time, Mucha was damn racy--but the level of competence in the execution.


I don't mind cheesecake. Man cannot live on cheesecake alone, but it's a treat and I greet it with a smile on my face. This is just poorly done cheesecake. High Fantasy has been a market for cheesecake since it began, and I think that it's been done much better.


Folks don't take RPG's that seriously, not because of covers. But the behavior and misunderstandings of the target markets. The silly covers are just as silly as the cheesecake that sells body builder magazines, romance novels, and magazines like Stuff. It's indicative that you're not going to be getting material with as much depth as The National Review, but folks don't take RPG work that seriously for reasons far beyond the goofy covers.


And yet, there are still folks who are furiously working at hammering away at a LoTR MMPORG, based on the d20 system, because it looks like a cash cow. Folks take games seriously when it means cash in pocket.


Always, in the end, people take the bottom line seriously. WotC wasn't taken seriously until they produced mad cash--then, they were serious as a bag of hammers. RPG's won't be taken very seriously until heaps of cash are made from them, and by heaps, I mean ridiculous numbers. Niegh imaginary numbers.


Cheesecake doesn't hinder an industry's credibility for creating cash. Look at pro wrestling. The Playboy magazine empire. After a bit, that cash gives it credence in folks eyes--as the billion dollar porn industry is now finding out.


*heck, just look at Mucha's work. The man was a god for illustrators then, and still today. THAT was a man who took composition seriously. Mathematical, precise. His work in chapels and cathedrals in Eastern Europe is amazing, not just for the scale of the work, but how exacting and precise it is. The cover of S&S is just poor ass composition...
 
Man cannot live on cheesecake alone
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A lot of roleplayers look like they do, though. Some of them really need to get out and exercise, or have a carrot.


-S
 
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