L5R interest check

Am I locked into the Tsuruchi Archer? That is my first idea, but maybe I will find something else as I do more reading?
 
[QUOTE="Silent Wayfarer]Are you using the Hiruma Scout or Bushi? The new Hiruma Bushi combines elements of both, although the Scout in the Book of Earth(?) seems to be truer to the Scout route.
And yes - jade fingers are always acceptable.

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Oh good question let me stew on that one awhile--I kind of like both so i am kinda open. Do you think the party would be better of with a Bushi or do you care either way.
 
hellrazoromega said:
Oh good question let me stew on that one awhile--I kind of like both so i am kinda open. Do you think the party would be better of with a Bushi or do you care either way.
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We have a lot of bushi, but off the top of my head I don't know what's the diff between the 4e Hiruma bushi and scout.


In 1e the Hiruma Bushi was incredibly hardcore as a defensive combat style (especially with Hummingbird Wings) but it was a "lost" school since all the sensei died when Hiruma Castle got eaten by the Shadowlands. Though apparently SOMEONE managed to reconstruct it because we have the rules for them in 3e and 4e. I'm not sure when this was, though. Probably not yet in the 10-11th centuries, but I'm willing to handwave this detail if you really want to play a Hiruma bushi.
 
I think I may go with scout it fit the character I am making. I assume the Book of Earth Scout is like the Scout in the 3e book. I don't have Book of Earth but can barrow a copy tomorrow. But I know the 3e version well as I have that book.
 
Awww :(


How about arrows, do you agree with the exorbitant prices in the core book, or could you be persuaded to lower them and/or include a bunch with a bow?
 
Every bow comes with a quiver of 20 normal arrows. That's one.


Think of your mon as an expense account for getting stuff essential for serving your lord, as long as you proudly and clearly declare your identity to whoever you're taking them from. Within your lands, actual money is used for luxuries like sake, geisha, joro and buying seven monkeys named after each of the Kami.


The prices listed in the book apply for getting stuff outside your lands, where the merchants are all too happy to gouge needy bushi. But in general, obtaining ammunition and minor life conveniences are not things I'm interested in playing out unless it's of particular interest to me that you not have underwear today.
 
Oh man, we don't have a change of underwear. ;)


Okay, that's good to know that there is an armoury that we can draw from in our lands. I guess the question is, what happens when we are away from our lands? Do we just run out of food, shelter, and equipment? Or can we bill things back to our lord?
 
solyrflair said:
Oh man, we don't have a change of underwear. ;)
Okay, that's good to know that there is an armoury that we can draw from in our lands. I guess the question is, what happens when we are away from our lands? Do we just run out of food, shelter, and equipment? Or can we bill things back to our lord?
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Yes, you die of starvation and hunger with empty quivers and broken swords.


Actually, I covered that in my reply above. "The prices listed in the book apply for getting stuff outside your lands, where the merchants are all too happy to gouge needy bushi."

[QUOTE="Shining Lotus Sage]God damn it. Okay, how many books am I going to need to buy to be ready for this (apparently quite rich) setting?

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All of them?


You can start with just the corebook, though. I think we have at least one veteran player here to hold your hand.
 
So, my other idea is to go with an Otomo Family that enters the Bayushi School because of a loss of a bet and the family could only save face by actually sending a child to the school to prove a point and pay off the bet.
 
[QUOTE="Silent Wayfarer]The L5R 4e Hiruma Scout school is in Imperial Histories, not Book of Earth. My mistake.

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Can anyone tell me if the Scout in Histories is fictionally the same as the one in the 3e corebook. I see from the character generator that some of the names of the abilities match up, but I have no idea how close the text of the abilities is.
 
I haven't figured out the detail of the bet, but it occurred at court where an Otomo family patriarch was commenting on the depravity of the Scorpion Clan, trying to get them removed as a clan. A Bayushi family patriarch said that a Bayushi samurai could be just as honorable as any other samurai.


A disagreement started and soon the two came to an agreement that one of the students of the Bayushi Bushi school present at court had to demonstrate his honor to be at the same excellence as a samurai from the Otomo family. The contest was set for the next morning to prevent the Scorpion to bring a ringer from home for this contest.


The next morning two samurai met face-to-face. At the end of the contest not one judge could claim one was better than the other. Without a clear winner it seemed that the bet might lapse, until the Bayushi stated that the wager had to prove that the Bayushi school was inferior. Since it wasn't proven, that the Otomo had to allow his son into their school. The Otomo patriarch countered that since there was no victor, that the wager was unfulfilled.


However, stories of the contest circulated court and the Otomo family were suffering questions about having a Scorpion equal one of their own samurai. In the end, the Otomo were not willing to have a scorpion-born samurai in their school, but did relent and offer to send one of their children to the Bayushi school. A minor child of a distant cousin, a daughter at that, to become trained in the Scorpion ways. She could then prove whether the Bayushi school was honorable or not.


This has brought some attention to the Bayushi Bushi school. Having an imperial daughter attend the school brings them more honor, but if she proves to become dishonorable, the scandal could rock the school and the clan itself. Many eyes are watching this from afar. Some say the Emperor himself has turned an ear to this development.
 
hellrazoromega said:
Can anyone tell me if the Scout in Histories is fictionally the same as the one in the 3e corebook. I see from the character generator that some of the names of the abilities match up, but I have no idea how close the text of the abilities is.
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It seems similar enough, but my 3e book is at home so I can't fully confirm the details. However, the 3e Scout's emphasis was on stealth, mobility and endurance and the 4e Scout seems to have upheld that tradition.

solyrflair said:
I haven't figured out the detail of the bet, but it occurred at court where an Otomo family patriarch was commenting on the depravity of the Scorpion Clan, trying to get them removed as a clan. A Bayushi family patriarch said that a Bayushi samurai could be just as honorable as any other samurai.
A disagreement started and soon the two came to an agreement that one of the students of the Bayushi Bushi school present at court had to demonstrate his honor to be at the same excellence as a samurai from the Otomo family. The contest was set for the next morning to prevent the Scorpion to bring a ringer from home for this contest.


The next morning two samurai met face-to-face. At the end of the contest not one judge could claim one was better than the other. Without a clear winner it seemed that the bet might lapse, until the Bayushi stated that the wager had to prove that the Bayushi school was inferior. Since it wasn't proven, that the Otomo had to allow his son into their school. The Otomo patriarch countered that since there was no victor, that the wager was unfulfilled.


However, stories of the contest circulated court and the Otomo family were suffering questions about having a Scorpion equal one of their own samurai. In the end, the Otomo were not willing to have a scorpion-born samurai in their school, but did relent and offer to send one of their children to the Bayushi school. A minor child of a distant cousin, a daughter at that, to become trained in the Scorpion ways. She could then prove whether the Bayushi school was honorable or not.


This has brought some attention to the Bayushi Bushi school. Having an imperial daughter attend the school brings them more honor, but if she proves to become dishonorable, the scandal could rock the school and the clan itself. Many eyes are watching this from afar. Some say the Emperor himself has turned an ear to this development.
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So how do you measure honor ICly? Iaijutsu duels? It should also be noted that the Otomo are a courtier family, and their niche is pretty similar to the Scorpion in that they are willing to take unsavory measures to serve the Emperor. The Scorpion use the full gamut of treachery and skullduggery while the Otomo generally limit themselves to making the Clans fight among each other so they can't gang up on the Emperor like in the days of the Gozoku. And even then, none of this is overt; it's just accepted wisdom not to mess with the Emperor's own puppetmasters or the Clan of Secrets. So even if said daughter were to be "dishonorable"... well, nobody would really care. They're still serving the Emperor.


It might be better to phrase the daughter's posting to the Scorpion Clan as a concession of sorts. Maybe the Scorpions made a deal for political pressure against some Cranes and the price was letting an Otomo daughter learn their techniques. Or the Otomo want to steal Scorpion secrets and they're arranging for a castle or two to go to the Scorpions to secure her place there. Either way, the Bayushi-ryu has nothing to prove. She will also never be fully trusted by the Scorpion because she is not of the blood, although she might win the personal loyalty of a few Scorpions. Of course, the Otomo might think their daughter has been compromised, or not fully educated (after all, the Scorpions keep the best stuff for themselves).


You decide.
 
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I have a couple of assignments to finish up, and I'm the RPG coordinator for a con this weekend. I'll try and get my character done between all that, but I probably won't be done til Monday/Tuesday.
 
[QUOTE="Silent Wayfarer]Every bow comes with a quiver of 20 normal arrows. That's one.
Think of your mon as an expense account for getting stuff essential for serving your lord, as long as you proudly and clearly declare your identity to whoever you're taking them from. Within your lands, actual money is used for luxuries like sake, geisha, joro and buying seven monkeys named after each of the Kami.


The prices listed in the book apply for getting stuff outside your lands, where the merchants are all too happy to gouge needy bushi. But in general, obtaining ammunition and minor life conveniences are not things I'm interested in playing out unless it's of particular interest to me that you not have underwear today.

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That all sounds reasonable. Except for the seven monkeys. Is there a law against naming your monkey Hantei? Like you can't name a pig Napoleon in France?


Your interest in our characters' underwear has been noted.
 
HairyDM said:
I have a couple of assignments to finish up, and I'm the RPG coordinator for a con this weekend. I'll try and get my character done between all that, but I probably won't be done til Monday/Tuesday.
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No worries. I won't be rushing you guys.

Esbilon said:
That all sounds reasonable. Except for the seven monkeys. Is there a law against naming your monkey Hantei? Like you can't name a pig Napoleon in France?
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Well, like all laws, don't get caught breaking them. ;) Calling the brave monkey using a stick for kendo "Akodo" in front of a Lion is really asking for it.

Your interest in our characters' underwear has been noted.
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Interesting underwear always distracts me from thoughts of Satsujinko no Oni.
 
[QUOTE="Silent Wayfarer]Well, like all laws, don't get caught breaking them. ;) Calling the brave monkey using a stick for kendo "Akodo" in front of a Lion is really asking for it.

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Mmm, now I want 8 monkeys, just so that Shinko can ride one of the others without riding a Kami. That would be too disrespectful even for me. Mmmmm, although it would be a great way of pissing people off... Nah, doesn't fit my character by a long shot, she's way too respectful for that.


So, any idea when this may go live? I like not being rushed, but deadlines or semi-deadlines can be very useful.
 
For what it's worth, one of the NPCs will have the aforementioned seven monkeys, an irreverent Mantis.


I'll be putting the application for the forum in tomorrow. Can someone guide me on how to properly apply for the game? I took a quick peek at the system and it's subforums all the way down.
 
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