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I don't know. Marena can toss really big rocks at people and she's already thinner than Karen.Brickwall said:
SomeoneInCreation
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Ribus, your excerpt has helped me realize that Karen's caste mark morphed into Cross Popping Veins (see TVTropes) in that last panel. Another sign of Jukashi's awesomeness.
merle
Member
Oh wow, I never would have noticed that! Great little punchline there.SomeoneInCreation said:
And yeah, how about them demons, huh?
Arrghus
Junior Member
Actually, when you go back to the comic and check, you notice that Jukashi himself didn't do that, it was all Ribus. Credit where credit is due.SomeoneInCreation said:
Not that Jukashi isn't awesome, of course.
merle
Member
...hm. Credit to both Jukashi and Ribus, then, for a great comic and a neat joke added to it.Arrghus said:
krrackknut
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I'd pretty much be reacting exactly how Misho is.
Aasharu
Member
See, the last three panels here exemplify the things I love about Exalted. I'm assuming that Karen is around Essence 3, so by game standards, she's still "low level." In other RPGs, a low level character coming up against a demon equals rending, tearing, mauling, and bloody, bloody death of the character at the hands of the demon. In Exalted, a low level Solar, (especially a Dawn Caste,) comes up against a demon, it's a minor scuffle, (for the Exalt,) followed by a bloody decapitation of the aforementioned demon at the hands of the reborn God-King.
Quantum Toast
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Hmm. Maybe this is why the word "Erymanthoi" kept popping into my head last week.
Ascension1
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While your point certainly stands, we know her sister, who Exalted only slightly before Karen did, was Essence 4 at the beginning of the comic. I wouldn't put Essence 4 past Karen. Although it probably depends largely on how she spent her bonus points what she was up to before she entered the comic.Aasharu said:
*Don't go off on a tangent about how few PCs you've seen actually start at Essence 2, don't go off on a tangent, don't go off on a tangent...*
Kyeudo
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I've seen a ton start at Essence 2. You get so much more milage if you wait and spend your bonus points on Charms or Abilities.Ascension said:
ShadowDragon8685
Elder Member
Mileage doesn't help you much if you don't have the horsepower and torque to outrun the ravening hordes behind you at the start.Kyeudo said:
It's like the question of starting as a Wizard or a Fighter in a D&D game. If you're starting at first level, you're nuts to be a Wizard, since a housecat can kill you if it ambushes you. If you're starting around level 10 or so, good luck convincing anybody to play the beef unless they're using a Clericzilla build where they can go around all day with their uberbuffs up.
In Exalted, it's a question of which will serve you better: the fact that starting at Essence 2 optimizes your experience expenditure later in the game by letting you start with more abilities (and even attributes) high, or the fact that starting at Essence 3 gives you a decent chance of surviving a fight with an Immaculate Master if you dump everything into combat.
I always go for the latter. If you come Loaded for Chung, you can blunder through non-Chung. If you come "realistic" and not Loaded for Chung and get Chung, you just got Chunged.
Kyeudo
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You've never seen what low level wizards can do if you let an optimizer have at them. I run a pvp arena over on the GitP forums and I've seen some crazy stuff. DC 17-18 Color Sprays, no-save-just-die spells, 40 damage nuke spells, 30 Strength wizards, and other absurdities. You'd be surprised what a first level character can do.ShadowDragon8685 said:
For me, coming Loaded for Chung is taking Seven Shadows Evasion and comboing it with Hungry Tiger Technique and the Second Melee Excellency. Costs me 3 bonus points and Immaculate Masters can just eat my Grand Daiklave. Immaculate Masters don't have perfect defenses.
Thanqol
Elder Member
Take a look at Terrestrial Dodge Charms, and weep quietly (Except safety amongst enemies which is the best charm ever)IanPrice said:
Kyeudo
One Thousand Club
It has a flaw the size of a mack truck. I have a Grand Daiklave that is considerably smaller. Put the two together and you have Immaculate Master Shishkabob.IanPrice said:
Water Dragon Style's perfect, on the other hand, has no flaw in its defense, just in its cost. It will kill you if I don't. I will kill you if it doesn't.
Thanqol
Elder Member
If your perfect defense can be countered by a bucket of water then it's not very perfect.IanPrice said:
FluffySquirrel
Member
If your perfect defense can be countered by moving then by that reasoning it's not very perfect either.
They have flaws, and there's no reason you couldn't buy it with a different aspect to surprise your enemies
They have flaws, and there's no reason you couldn't buy it with a different aspect to surprise your enemies
Kyeudo
One Thousand Club
You've read the Temperance Flaw backwards. It can always be activated, but then you are unable to move from your location. Not much of a drawback when I've got a Power Bow.FluffySquirrel said:
FluffySquirrel
Member
Still can't move if you plan on using it a lot.. it is far from perfect, is the point. None of them are, it's kinda why they're flawed
Good luck getting that bucket of water onto the fire aspect through his anima flux. Come back when you try something epic, like dumping a rooftop water-basin on him - that might suffice to leave him open for one attack.Thanqol said:
Besides that, how many warriors do you know who go around carrying buckets of water? Not to mention the fat lot of good it'll do you when the immaculate turns out to be an earth aspect, or air, or water.
Joe_Mello
Junior Member
Well, it should work on Earth Aspects (my pokeymans tells me so). Wood aspects, not so much.IanPrice said: