Dice Inside the Great Maker

[Sherwood]

@Sherwood, please edit this post to include any OOC information

 

[Sherwood]

Here is our OCC board. I understand that it will be some time before everyone can have a sheet ready, and recruitment is still open for more to arrive. Take your time and talk amongst yourselves for what you want to do with your Circle.

 

[vinom]

I'm hoping to either play a crafting character (Orichalcum or Starmetal) or social character (Moonsilver or Starmetal). Preferred method of combat being either Essence Pulse Cannon or Gyroscopic Chakram.


A few questions for Sherwood. Not pressing but would like to know for char-gen.


1) If we have a good backstory reason for being in Kamak currently, could our alchemical come from another of the eight nations?


2) Can sub-modules be purchased at character creation, and if so, at what ratio of BP to XP?

 

[Sherwood]

There are a few nations that are unfriendly to Kamak right now, but if you can come up with a story why you would be there from one of the friendlier nations, that will be fine.


Sub modules can be bought with BP at a 2 for 1 cost.

 

[Random Word]

I'll probably go Starmetal or Soulsteel.

 

[vinom]

Sub modules can be bought with BP at a 2 for 1 cost.

Is that 2 XP worth of Sub-module per 1 BP or 1 sub-module no matter the XP cost per 2 BP?

 

[Sherwood]

If the module costs more than one xp, pay for every point at a 2-for-1 cost, using two BP to purchase 1 xp worth of module.

 

[vinom]

If the module costs more than one xp, pay for every point at a 2-for-1 cost, using two BP to purchase 1 xp worth of module.

Ouch... that's steep. It's basically saying that 2 XP worth of submodule is worth the same as an a unfavored attribute dot.

 

[Sherwood]

Well, you do have an extra 18 points to play with.

 

[vinom]

Well, you do have an extra 18 points to play with.

I get that... But I would have to either blow all 18 to get the sub-module for Transcendent Multimodal Artifact Matrix for the 3 dot Essence Pulse Cannon I'd like... or not start with what I was thinking might be my primary weapon until I could afford to drop 9 xp on it.

 

[Sherwood]

I get that... But I would have to either blow all 18 to get the sub-module for Transcendent Multimodal Artifact Matrix for the 3 dot Essence Pulse Cannon I'd like... or not start with what I was thinking might be my primary weapon until I could afford to drop 9 xp on it.

Hmmmm. Well, I suppose I could make it 1 BP per Xp

 

[vinom]

Hmmmm. Well, I suppose I could make it 1 BP per Xp

While I would be willing to spend that, I can't help feel that there is a noticeable bit of imbalance between spending 1 BP to get 1 XP worth of sub-module versus spending 1 BP and getting 6 XP worth of charm on retainer in the vats.

 

[Sherwood]

You have a point. We will go ahead and make it 1 for 2 in cost. How is that?

 

[Esbilon]

1 bp is generally worth at least 3 xp. Maximally, it's worth 18 xp when used to buy the 10th dot of Willpower. Things are a little bit different for Alchemicals since they don't have favored abilities which give excellent xp/bp value, but since you can buy an unlimited number of Charms at the rate of 1 Charm per bp (without slots, though), I feel the fair rate would be the same as for (possibly favored) Charms. I don't have book with me atm, so I can't check that.

 

[vinom]

1 bp is generally worth at least 3 xp. Maximally, it's worth 18 xp when used to buy the 10th dot of Willpower. Things are a little bit different for Alchemicals since they don't have favored abilities which give excellent xp/bp value, but since you can buy an unlimited number of Charms at the rate of 1 Charm per bp (without slots, though), I feel the fair rate would be the same as for (possibly favored) Charms. I don't have book with me atm, so I can't check that.

Charms cost a flat 6 XP, the difference in favored/unfavored is that General Charm slots [can hold any charm] cost 12 XP [or 6 BP] and Dedicated Charm Slots [which can only hold charms tied to Caste/Favored Attributes] cost 10 xp [or 5 BP].


A one BP to three XP exchange is what I would think would be fair. If you think that people might over invest at that, a cap such as people not being able to spend more than six BP on sub-modules would probably work well.

 

[Sherwood]

I think @vinom has the answer with the 3 for 1 cost but a cap of spending a total of six bp on sub modules.

 

[Random Word]

I don't suppose there's any equivalent to the Hardy keyword or other Ox-Body/Stamina fixes in this game? I've been in some games with free Ox-Body per stamina dot, but with Alchemicals that would just fill a huge number of Charm slots unless free Ox-Bodies no longer took up slots. I may be slightly biased in this request, as I have Stamina 7.

 

[vinom]

I'm thinking of crafting a custom martial arts style.

 

[Sherwood]

I have seen the list of Hardy Charms, and they do include the Alchemicals. Honestly, I had forgotten about that. I'll leave it up to a vote; do you want to include the Hardy keyword and get some free Ox Bodies, taking into account that the bad guys will have them, too?

 

[Sherwood]

Here is the list of Hardy Charms for the Alchemicals


Alchemicals


Survival


Pain Suppression Nodes


Subcutaneous/Exoskeletal Armor Plating (any and all installments)


Transitory Invulnerability Engine


Essence Shield Projector


Alloyed Reinforcement of Flesh


Body-Reweaving Matrix


Bodily Integrity Field


Aegis Integration System


Enshrined Divinity Apparatus


Industrial Survival Frame


Biofunction Inhibitor


Sustenance Replication Engine

 

[Esbilon]

I'm in favor of not dying, but I'm not dedicated to the idea

 

[vinom]

Um... I checked the errata and Ink Monkey's collection, and failed to find the Hardy keyword, what is it?

 

[Sherwood]

Charms on the Hardy list give character a free Ox Body, up to a maximum of your Essence. For Alchemicals, they waive the need for a slot and the essence installation cost.

 

[Sherwood]

I typed into Google "exalted hardy charms" and got the list I put up earlier.

 

[Random Word]

I'm planning to buy a lot of those Charms, and going for the whole unkillable nightmare thing, so I'm definitely in favour.