Melpomene
Writer of Tragedy|Art by ROYTHEART|
To be fair... I don't think that was anyone's argument. I don't think anyone believes you have to describe how many bricks are in the wall or how many tiles are being laid on the floor. What people are saying is that what you think is an adequate description of the setting is not what others would think is an adequate description of the setting. Some people like 'irrelevant' details being mentioned. Some of us don't think of these details being fluff. To some people, there is no over-establishing the setting. I could personally read about a setting alone for a while, it is one of the reasons I enjoy reading Tolkien. If you don't like that, it is fine. But I think you are disregarding that there are people that legitimately find pleasure in reading that amount of detail.I wish there was a dislike button. Establishing the setting: good. Over-establishing the setting: boring. Why would you assume that not going deep into every irrelevant facet of a setting means one doesn't establish the setting sufficiently? That's a completely false dichotomy, a completely straight-forward logical fallacy, oh great logic human.