General Discussion [Dreams of the Third Age]

[QUOTE="MaHaSuchi's700]Wait, so to clarify - do the dots granted by Caste training stack with general Sidereal training? Or do those traits represent cumulative, total values for each ability? (e.g. stacking would mean the Melee 1 from general Sid benefits stacks with the Melee 3 from Battles Sid benefits, resulting in Melee 4; the cumulative total would mean you only get Melee 3, with the general Sid dot going to Melee and being useless or going to Archery or Thrown instead)

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N0t stack, The dots in the caste are there, so you actually can do your caste job correctly. Like Melee 3 for example is minimum for chosen of battles.
 
Actually funny enough, compared to the others castes , Chosen of battles are the ones who end up spending the most dots before they even get to distribute their own dots in regular ability chargen. Chosen of Endings end up with like 19/35 and Chosen of Battle is 24 or 25 out of 35, which I always found weird.
 
Oh, huh, I had used the training dots from lords of creation. Is there something else DBs should use? Oblvs, the schools listed didn't exist back in the day...
 
Yeah, DotFA DB training may actually be superior for what you get in comparison to Realm training requirements.
 
So I created a torment, but not Urge Archtype, since... not really needed. DT's Urge is derived from Motivation. Done. xD


Anyway I got a person to look at it and said it was okay, but how about you guys:


Torment of the Ebon Serpent Dancer


Ever loving of attention, ever loving of love, ever loving of being love, Syrenica thrives on these. But superficial love is a concern that she keenly dislikes as it sits very close to betrayal. Still when she is pressed beyond her limits she wants nothing more than attention and acceptance. When a Character with this torment reaches 10 limit her essence lashes out at her. Increasing her need for attention, love and acceptance, but none will be coming as all people that interact with her whose MDVs are less than her (Essence + Primary Virtue) will be struck with a compelling desire as dictated by the Overindulgence Limit Break (Exalted pg 105), while the Infernal is compelled to find a meaningful lasting relationship. This is a wide area compulsion effect that can be resisted if succeed with 1 wp doing so allows a Partial Control of the Overindulgence Limit Break.
 
Interesting. I'm not a huge fan of the contagious aspect of Torment, but you seem to have made it work... literal pheromones from Hell. I like how you're basically forced to be the only person looking for more than a quickie.
 
Thankies. ^^ I wanted one that kinda made some sense to me. Whether it did I was worried the contagious aspect would have some dislikes. And I'm open for suggestions if this makes people unhappy. (Granted... all my Infernals... never have hit Torment. xD )
 
I think you need to add some sort of tag that defines the matter of influence you exert on others with that torment, Compulsion or Emotion most likely.
 
Mmm you'd be right I think. (I note a lack in the Infernals book but no one said things were written for clarity.
 
This torment would make you quite popular at the Cynis parties ;) .


I'm not particularly familiar with Infernals, but all instances of unnatural influences need to be clear on their effects, since that determines the manner of defense they can be resisted with. I'm thinking you might need to add a willpower cost as well, either to resist the whole effect altogether, or suffer only a partial limit effect. Take Sanity-Eroding Diatribe for example, from Abyssals book:


The Abyssal makes a social attack in which her player rolls ([Charisma or Manipulation] + Presence) against the target’s Dodge MDV. If the target can gain Limit or Resonance, every three threshold successes increase her Limit or Resonance total by one, though the target may spend two Willpower each rather than gain the points. Other targets instead lose one Willpower for every three threshold successes. Any victims reduced to zero Willpower by this Charm—even those who spend their last Willpower points resisting Limit or Resonance gains—suffer the effects of a Solar Limit Break selected by the Storyteller from those associated with the target’s highest rated Virtue (see Exalted pp. 103–105). Mortals cannot partially control induced Limit Breaks, though other victims can.


Of course this is only a guideline, perhaps someone else with a better grasp on social mechanics can give you a better feedback.
 
I was thinking a WP cost would be handy. I'm just not sure if 1 or 2 would be appropriate. Maybe 1 and have it be reduced to Partial Control of Overindulgence.


And yes, likely quite popular at such parties. xD
 
Goddamnbatman how easy will it be to get social backgrounds in game with the backing of Solar Socialize and Presence charms? Would you be fine with me buying, say, three dots worth of spies over a month of downtime?
 
Yeah some kind of a definition or limit on it on the torment would be appropriate, check out the example in the books, like the Malfeas one doesn't affect people who have more MDV than the infernal (Essence+virtue) forgot which virtue it was for Malfeas and making them berserk.


It varies, if you are trying to get people from a place run by exalt , it could prove fairly difficult, some small town/villages in the middle of nowhere are relatively easy.
 
Goddamnbatman said:
It varies, if you are trying to get people from a place run by exalt , it could prove fairly difficult, some small town/villages in the middle of nowhere are relatively easy.
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I want Connections, Allies and Spies on the Blessed Isle.
 
Goddamnbatman said:
That will be very tough. Bronze faction siddies are all over the place.
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I don't plan on flashing my anima and demand they bow down. But using Understanding the Court to find out who's important, Wise-Eyed Courtier Method to influence the rank and file and Irresistible Salesman Spirit to win over the leaders. Plus, going after those who already don't like Mnemon seems like a winning strategy.


What I'm asking is mostly whether you'll let me build such backgrounds up during downtime, or it is something we have to spend playtime doing.
 
It could be possible with some good montage like explanations and Feantari could probably help with it being an old and wise dragon-blooded.
 
There is useful comment on limit in the Scroll of Errata:


Infernal Limit


(p. 80)


Theoretically, any creature be affected through an Infernal’s


intimacies. Think of it operating similar to the way and arcane


link does. Also, take the story into account. Don’t just inflict


it on a supernatural being because it is possible to do so, but


because it in some way advances the story to do so.


So it's ST call who is affected and how much.
 
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