TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
So bos guy, I killed LP. GG, so the USCR and the bos hav strained relations.
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Fallout based Nationbuilding
- Thread starter TheIrradiatedWaffle
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Sigh...What you may have forgotten with all this is that the Brotherhood would also have used the Prydwen in such a war. And most likely, they wouldn't easily fall for such a trap. So either the Prydwen would have also been destroyed or the Brotherhood would have won the war by destroying the only thing that could destroy the Prydwen reliably.
Also, your argument of Liberty Prime being too op doesn't really work if you allow yourself to have a factory of weapons that can easily destroy him and everything else.
Oh, and by the way: Your 'capitalist' nations would probably be very interested in not going to war with anyone, but keeping people fighting between each other and profiting from supplying both parties. I don't see a reason for them to attack the Brotherhood and neither do I see a reason for the Brotherhood to attack them without better preparation.
And I would like it if you could just look at my post about the Power source and Beryllium accelerator that solves the problem just as well without having to strain the relationship between two parties even before the RP begins.
(And thanks for using up his patience before I could even talk.)
Also, your argument of Liberty Prime being too op doesn't really work if you allow yourself to have a factory of weapons that can easily destroy him and everything else.
Oh, and by the way: Your 'capitalist' nations would probably be very interested in not going to war with anyone, but keeping people fighting between each other and profiting from supplying both parties. I don't see a reason for them to attack the Brotherhood and neither do I see a reason for the Brotherhood to attack them without better preparation.
And I would like it if you could just look at my post about the Power source and Beryllium accelerator that solves the problem just as well without having to strain the relationship between two parties even before the RP begins.
(And thanks for using up his patience before I could even talk.)
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
The Pydwenmost likely would have been used, but not for offensive measures, itd be a base cause the bos wouldnt put there most prized possession in harms way. And Its likely they would as they had before. As a hurried retreating force would lure the bos as it has once with lyons amd with maxson's overconfidence.
And no, I cant just build a bunch. I dont hav the resources to do so. Not enough, steel production to do so. If I wanted to do so, I couldnt. Rationing would happen and even then, not a chance of mass production. Plus the problem of mobilizing the thing.
Also they probably would fight cause of the arsenal in the first place and how the USCR wouldnt let them scavenge through the land. The capitalist states wanna keep their land and the USCR has given them a place to flourish, as well as patriotism.
Look, Im open to this conversation, I wanna make sure that you are heard and not just stuff to weaken another faction. Plus, the death of LP wouldnt really affect you.
Well, if Liberty Prime were to get destroyed, he would just be rebuilt again by Ingram and Li. Maybe not finished as of yet, but the Brotherhood wouldn't leave him dead.
And the reason I think the brotherhood wouldn't attack as soon as that is that at least the Commonwealth branch needs to establish peace and order in the Commonwealth regarding the gunners, gangs, Railroad remnants and Goodneighbor. I don't think Maxson would be that reckless.
And the reason I think the brotherhood wouldn't attack as soon as that is that at least the Commonwealth branch needs to establish peace and order in the Commonwealth regarding the gunners, gangs, Railroad remnants and Goodneighbor. I don't think Maxson would be that reckless.
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Its a bit different than last time though, an armor piercing shell ripped through his unprotected torso. Would take longer and is a good enough excuse to keep him out of the rp. Plus, say that the war killed of an over 10,000 man chapter, 2,000, thered be a brain drain as USCR troops would hunt scribes and paladins.
Maybe, but Maxson has shown his recklessness before, taking on a deathclaw alone, sending the bulk of the arm and their top secret weapon into a hostile enviroment where if they lose, he'd hav crippled the bos and their future.
Well, I can understand that Liberty Prime will be out longer now, but I don't think the brotherhood will lose sribes in a matter that is disproportionate to their total losses since they have very good discipline and technology. Also, the brotherhood would most likely still have remaining warheads for Liberty Prime in the glowing sea which would fall under commonwealth territory and could probably be used by vertibirds.
That is, IF Maxson would do that.
That is, IF Maxson would do that.
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TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Just an end to means to make LP out of the rp. And depends how lomg it takes LP falls. Cause if late in the war, The bos wouldnt have created a way to drop the bombs. But even then, as seen in fo4, launchers and guns work well against vertibirds. That of course would lead to a two front war, where the bos forces are split on 2 sides, (3 if you include the gangs in the commonwealth) the Prydwen unable carry mass amounts of the bombs cause they are cut off and the vertibirds only able to carry 2 or three each. Then, its likely the USCR woild deploy the caliber guns to be used as AA-guns in important places. Look, Im not saying it'll be a pretty war, with the bos' losses in the thousands and the USCR's in the tens of thousands.
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TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Perhaps one of those moments where each side claims victory, cause for the bos, they cause much more damage, but for the USCR, they crippled the bos, with 20-30% losses plus LP.
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Well, they arent really states, persay. They are like the german empire, all timy states who see themselves as Bavarians and Prussians, but through war, are unified as german. After the war, the natiob does fall into a depression after the communist party seizes the necessary number of seats to control the country, but in the most recent election of 2299, the Capitalist party and their states take charge. They go about ing stuff.
Boethiah
Prince of Plots, Queen of Shadows
The German Empire saw themselves as Germans. You're thinking of the Germanic Federations and Holy Roman Empire.
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
No, I mean 1880s, German Empire.
Except for the fact that they came to an agreement between each other. The Socialist States would allow a free market if and only if the State controlled the natural resources of the country so that theyd be no exploitation, in theory.
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
No I mean like in the formation of the German Empire, they were all split but by unification and war, nationalism and belief that they were all german came to be.
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
So I was thinking in the peace agreement, the USCR would motion for trade agreements of allowing companies to mine in the bos' areas and demand war reparations in return for lower prices and giving a 30,000 caps credit for resources.
So you're telling me that they want to lend them money, get reparations and get resources? I don't think Maxson would do that. He wouldn't settle on something at least fair if not in his eyes beneficial to the brotherhood. Don't forget that your country is the one where tensions would probably arise.
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Theyd pay you for the resources, and finally, a 11 percent stake in the arsenal. An allowance of small numbers of troops to cross through our land too
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So there's weapons for the brotherhood, access to their lands, money in the long run against access to trade, resources and reparations. I don't know if the reparations are too much, but it seems balanced to me. After all the Brotherhood can further their influence and salvage for technology. Maybe even an something like an embassy comparable to New Vegas and the NCR?
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Oh, no, you can buy the weapons but you dont get any for free. Also, you are allowed sceduled movements of troops, not blatant access to my land .So now that I know what you want, what are you ging to give me?
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Well, one thing you get are the resources of the Commonwealth as well as access to the market of probably both the Capital and the Commonwealth tax free for five years. Since the brotherhood is granted limited military access they will help keep peace in the region by exterminating supermutants and ghouls in exchange for rights to all technology that they find. Is that enough?
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
No military actions unless for self defense and you have to check out all pieces of tech you find, still meaning you get it but I just wanna know what you get. As well, only a small number of about 20 hunts for a tech a year for 5 years before you have to pay tax, as like us with access to the tax free markets.
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Follow this and all on leave bos soldiers get a barracks to stay in new york city and they bills below 10,000 caps a year paid by the USCR for 3 years
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TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Make that cash money for non government items, like cakes and cookies.