Colt556
Three Thousand Club
The problem is you're taking the main characters and ascribing their success to the race as a whole. Goku was the first to use gravity training and only did so because of events that happened. This never happened and never would have happened to Saiyans as a whole so any benefit from this type of training should be removed since Saiyans did not, and could not, do this. Same applies to the whole "near death makes me stronger" thing. Vegeta was desperate and at the end of his ropes and bet it on a fairy tale about ancient saiyans if my memory serves me.Zuka said:DBZ saw only 2 Saiyan's feed of each other to gain power advances. Imagine a platoon of them.
@Colt556
For starter's that midget would pretty much make Gilad look like a flea in terms of PL, so to say "saiyans were killed by Freiza and therefore weak" Is like saying "Yamcha is a weak ass human" when his abilities alone to fly and do Ki blasts would dominate 99% of RL humans.
And the reason Frieza killed them because yes, they were weak, but they gained power FAST. and he was threatened.
The comparsion seems fair if you didn't understand the concept of KI and Powerlevels.
@Genon
Vegeta was at the very top, one of the strongest warriors of all Saiyans and even he was a punk-ass bitch until the events of the show. Saiyans themselves are not strong and the means to get strong are things they never knew of nor used. You mentioned Yamcha compared to other humans, well the same applies to Goku or Vegeta and other saiyans. Only an absolute tiny minority got that strong and Goku and Vegeta were the strongest. To say your characters START stronger than them goes beyond any level of comparable fandom. It'd be like saying our A-rank mages in this rp can effortlessly annihilate the four gods of ishgar from the manga. At that point it's just power-level wanking and would be required to be contained within it's own fandom.
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