Dreams of the First Age pushed back (?)

So, what'd be your first choice for secondary aspect? The obvious one for any martial artist, for example, is Water (if they aren't already), though Fire or Air would also be handy there. More sciency research types would go wood... thoughts?


Personally I think everyone should take water as a secondary, if only because their anima powers are useful as all hell.
 
well if it isnt allready your natural aspect I'd defintately go for wood


though an idea


Fire would be useful if your a meleeist who isnt fire aspected
 
This will probably come as a surprise to noone, but I thought I'd note that Dreams of the First Age has been pushed back (yet again) to April 16th.


... and on that note, Manual of Exalted Power: the Abyssals is due on the same date, and Scroll of Kings as well as Compass of Celestial Direction: YU-Shan is set to April 2nd.
 
Well, at least everything moved this time (save Abyssals)...wonder what the issue is. Sigh. Someday they'll release another book...


I'm probably being overly optimistic, aren't I?
 
Is this a consistent problem across all of WW's lines or just Exalted? I've not really been paying any attention to the other WW series, but if this is a reflection of the whole company I don't think we're gonna see many more WW publications.
 
What are you talking about? No, its just this thing. It keeps getting pushed back because its a box set. Box sets are always clusterfucks waiting to happen.
 
Its not just Dreams of the First Age, thats just the worst one. Its seemed to me that all of the Exalted books have been getting pushed back. I know that boxed sets are a pain, although I hadn't thought about it until the livejournal post from the developer, but hasn't Scroll of the Kings been pushed back a time or two, and CoCD: Yu-Shan as well?
 
Yeah, but the other lines like WoD and the others are well on track. Only Exalted has been kicked because of the ripple effect of the box set.
 
/shrug/ Like I said, I haven't been paying any attention to the other WW lines. I know the RPG market has been hurting recently and I was just concerned that my favorite publisher was sinking. Glad that I was mistaken.
 
I think it has something to do with the whole merging of EVE; seems once that was in place they havent been able to do anything on time.


But consider this, for an entire quarter they have released no new material, that has to damage their financial forcasting and bottom line hard; I would be surprised if there arent major changes in the works
 
Quite true. Then again, mortal panic hasn't really let fly on the LJ yet except in John Chambers' articles. And that pretty much spells it out there. Overall, I think things will pick up soon enough. Not like their current books aren't hurting for sales.
 
Malekith said:
I think it has something to do with the whole merging of EVE; seems once that was in place they havent been able to do anything on time.
But consider this, for an entire quarter they have released no new material, that has to damage their financial forcasting and bottom line hard; I would be surprised if there arent major changes in the works
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They haven't released any new Exalted material, true. But Exalted is not their only game.  This quarter saw the release of new supplements for Scion (God, primarily) and WoD 2.0 (Fall of the Camarilla, notably).  Their upcoming release schedule for this month doesn't list any Exalted books until April, but there are several expansions to the VTES game and a new CCG coming out in two weeks.


I doubt their finances are in jeopardy.
 
Not like their current books aren't hurting for sales.
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That is very true. Changeling was a runaway success (sold some 8 thousand units I hear) and scion was in the same league.


I doubt if anything then white wolf cemented their position as market second this year.
 
Safim said:
Not like their current books aren't hurting for sales.
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That is very true. Changeling was a runaway success (sold some 8 thousand units I hear) and scion was in the same league.


I doubt if anything then white wolf cemented their position as market second this year.
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Scion's success was out of left field, from what I understand.  White Wolf published it, but didn't expect it to do as well as some of the WoD 2.0 venues.  Their initial projections on the project were conservative, and while it's not as successful as Exalted, it still had returns far above what was expected.  It's why they're pushing the Companion and Scion: Ragnarok so quickly after the initial releases of the three core books.
 
Indeed, but still, success is success wherever they find it. Scion is tearing itself a niche in WW, long as that may be, right along side the other venues. Hell, even Promethean did fairly well by most accounts.
 
Promethean is a very interesting game. I have heard multiple people on the internet praise it as one of the best PnP RPGs of late, I not being one of them: not out of dislike, just lack of knowledge.
 
P:tC gave me this feeling that I got when I first saw M:tA... and M:tA is the first RPG I played. It also shattered this misconception of gaming I had before.


So I guess that's saying a lot about P:tC.
 
It is actually a very indie game, not as in independently published but as in "has mechanics that focus the play on the story". By milestones it gives the storyteller some excellent tools for developing the story of the "ascension" of the prometheans together with the players.
 
True all these other games may be successful, but when you miss big deliveries that you are expecting to be large sources of income, it is very stressful to any corporation. Imagine sitting in a budget meeting:


Scene: last quarter 07


Development manager Joe - expect to spend $700K per quarter in expenses, salaries, benfits, and future development costs for 08


Finance guy Jim - We expect to see 1000K in income for nWod, exalted, scion and etc. for 08


CEO Alice - great job, 30% contribution margin makes a healthy company, bonus for all in 08!


Present day


Joe - production delays have pushed out launches of exalted product out 1 Q


Jim - expenses have not changed,  we make 0 EBIT for this quarter; this quarter is bad,


Alice - Bonuses are in jeapordy, Jim, Joe, put together contingency plans for headcount reductions if we cant recover...
 
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Malekith said:
True all these other games may be successful, but when you miss big deliveries that you are expecting to be large sources of income, it is very stressful to any corporation. Imagine sitting in a budget meeting:
Scene: last quarter 07


Development manager Joe - expect to spend $700K per quarter in expenses, salaries, benfits, and future development costs for 08


Finance guy Jim - We expect to see 1000K in income for nWod, exalted, scion and etc. for 08


CEO Alice - great job, 30% contribution margin makes a healthy company, bonus for all in 08!


Present day


Joe - production delays have pushed out launches of exalted product out 1 Q


Jim - expenses have not changed,  we make 0 EBIT for this quarter; this quarter is bad,


Alice - Bonuses are in jeapordy, Jim, Joe, put together contingency plans for headcount reductions if we cant recover...
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Of course that would be bad, but as long as you can't prove that happened you are pulling stuff right out of your arse   :P
 
It probably also over estimates how much Exalted makes up of WW's total income. I only raised the point that if WW's other lines were lagging as bad as Exalted there was serious trouble looming. Yeah, the delay of 4 books probably had an impact on this quarter, but I also imagine that intelligent managers also realize that it simply moved that revenue into the next quarter.
 
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