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[Kyero]

Hm...I haven't gotten a chance to sit down and crank out a post yet, but I really don't have much to say on the matter other than Karas being shocked, and I also can't crank out the R&D post while in the meeting...
By the way, would it be alright if the new Saiyan armor was a complete redesign? Chest protection is all well and good, but leaving the arms, legs, head and neck exposed just seems like a poor design choice on the part of whoever first designed Saiyan armor. Plus it could be a good excuse to allow the armor to double as a power-multiplying exoskeleton by placing ki capacitors around the limbs.


@Zuka @general ostruppen @Anime King Kaleb @Lord Zanicus

Go for it, but make it customizable. Some of the Saiyans, namely the vets of Raid Group 02A, won't care for a full body suit. They'd prefer either a tank-top style chest piece or even a general vest style chest piece. Most will opt for the legs though, but they don't like the feeling of anything over their arms so they wouldn't care too much for Karas' redesign. They'd opt for the old armor over his if there was no customization option.


Also, how long do you think it will take Karas to conceptualize and build this new armor? Because from where I'm standing it seems a lengthy process which could take up to a week and a half to two or more weeks depending on the supplies and resources he has to work with as well as the man hours he can afford to put into it with his required work on the Rejuvenation Chamber and all.

 

[general ostruppen]

Go for it, but make it customizable. Some of the Saiyans, namely the vets of Raid Group 02A, won't care for a full body suit. They'd prefer either a tank-top style chest piece or even a general vest style chest piece. Most will opt for the legs though, but they don't like the feeling of anything over their arms so they wouldn't care too much for Karas' redesign. They'd opt for the old armor over his if there was no customization option.
Also, how long do you think it will take Karas to conceptualize and build this new armor? Because from where I'm standing it seems a lengthy process which could take up to a week and a half to two or more weeks depending on the supplies and resources he has to work with as well as the man hours he can afford to put into it with his required work on the Rejuvenation Chamber and all.

Don't forget Kentan is on board with making this armor and already workin on it

 

[Kyero]

[QUOTE="general ostruppen]Don't forget Kentan is on board with making this armor and already workin on it

[/QUOTE]
True, but priorities and supplies are no joke. You don't have magical infinite resources to draw upon to just conjure up this armor. The group wasn't expecting such a change, so right now resources are tight and likely have to be ordered and resupplied before the project can be completed.


I'll never just let something from R&D come into being. It has to be done right, and magically conjuring everything you need when it was previously unexpected isn't going to fly. This is going to be a lengthy venture for the R&D department, especially since it was only just established and given leave to focus more on that than combat.

 

[Genon]

Go for it, but make it customizable. Some of the Saiyans, namely the vets of Raid Group 02A, won't care for a full body suit. They'd prefer either a tank-top style chest piece or even a general vest style chest piece. Most will opt for the legs though, but they don't like the feeling of anything over their arms so they wouldn't care too much for Karas' redesign. They'd opt for the old armor over his if there was no customization option.
Also, how long do you think it will take Karas to conceptualize and build this new armor? Because from where I'm standing it seems a lengthy process which could take up to a week and a half to two or more weeks depending on the supplies and resources he has to work with as well as the man hours he can afford to put into it with his required work on the Rejuvenation Chamber and all.

True, but priorities and supplies are no joke. You don't have magical infinite resources to draw upon to just conjure up this armor. The group wasn't expecting such a change, so right now resources are tight and likely have to be ordered and resupplied before the project can be completed.
I'll never just let something from R&D come into being. It has to be done right, and magically conjuring everything you need when it was previously unexpected isn't going to fly. This is going to be a lengthy venture for the R&D department, especially since it was only just established and given leave to focus more on that than combat.

Well, you have to consider how future tech might be helping. How did Karas build the Rejuvenation Chamber in a week from just looking at the blueprints? He's probably relying on something similar to a 3D printer to help with manufacturing the unique parts. Maybe not something as powerful as a fabricator, but it seems rather odd that the Bastion's nanotech couldn't be miniaturized.


In fact, a lot of the stuff Karas has built, especially without the Bastion, just seems odd to do in such a short timeframe. Equivalent projects would probably take months or years to complete with just one person working on them assuming they were using conventional techniques. The only real justification I can come up for how he can build things so fast is that he has future tech at his disposal.


On another note, now that we know how powerful Inecros is, don't you think we ought to transmit our findings back to Outpost-IE? And what is the rest of the Saiyan race doing right now anyway?

 

[Kyero]

Well, you have to consider how future tech might be helping. How did Karas build the Rejuvenation Chamber in a week from just looking at the blueprints? He's probably relying on something similar to a 3D printer to help with manufacturing the unique parts. Maybe not something as powerful as a fabricator, but it seems rather odd that the Bastion's nanotech couldn't be miniaturized.
In fact, a lot of the stuff Karas has built, especially without the Bastion, just seems odd to do in such a short timeframe. Equivalent projects would probably take months or years to complete with just one person working on them assuming they were using conventional techniques. The only real justification I can come up for how he can build things so fast is that he has future tech at his disposal.


On another note, now that we know how powerful Inecros is, don't you think we ought to transmit our findings back to Outpost-IE? And what is the rest of the Saiyan race doing right now anyway?

It wouldn't be a bad idea to transmit the findings to the planet. The rest of the Saiyan Race is doing what it can to maintain the new home world and keep the Saiyan population alive and flourishing in the wake of the genocide by Inecros. Sadly this is their part to play: waiting for the good news and being out of the limelight.


In short, the rest of the Saiyan Race doesn't matter anymore. Our characters are all that matters right now. They are doing what they do for the sake of their Race, but other than that the Race as a whole is no longer our concern nor is it a focal point of the RP's plot or upcoming events. When Inecros is defeated we will return home at last and then we can focus on more of a world-building and societal reconstruction effort to give the RP some variety of scenery and function, but for now they are but an afterthought.

 

[Genon]

It wouldn't be a bad idea to transmit the findings to the planet. The rest of the Saiyan Race is doing what it can to maintain the new home world and keep the Saiyan population alive and flourishing in the wake of the genocide by Inecros. Sadly this is their part to play: waiting for the good news and being out of the limelight.
In short, the rest of the Saiyan Race doesn't matter anymore. Our characters are all that matters right now. They are doing what they do for the sake of their Race, but other than that the Race as a whole is no longer our concern nor is it a focal point of the RP's plot or upcoming events. When Inecros is defeated we will return home at last and then we can focus on more of a world-building and societal reconstruction effort to give the RP some variety of scenery and function, but for now they are but an afterthought.

I like how you forgot to address the future tech stuff I brought up... :3

 

[Kyero]

I like how you forgot to address the future tech stuff I brought up... :3

Sorry. I haven't eaten at all today so my mind's a bit scattered. I need food.


But yes, we have some futuristic style tech to get the job done, but not enough to just magically start and finish everything in a few days. That's all I want to make clear.

 

[Zooks]

Well, you have to consider how future tech might be helping. How did Karas build the Rejuvenation Chamber in a week from just looking at the blueprints? He's probably relying on something similar to a 3D printer to help with manufacturing the unique parts. Maybe not something as powerful as a fabricator, but it seems rather odd that the Bastion's nanotech couldn't be miniaturized.
In fact, a lot of the stuff Karas has built, especially without the Bastion, just seems odd to do in such a short timeframe. Equivalent projects would probably take months or years to complete with just one person working on them assuming they were using conventional techniques. The only real justification I can come up for how he can build things so fast is that he has future tech at his disposal.


On another note, now that we know how powerful Inecros is, don't you think we ought to transmit our findings back to Outpost-IE? And what is the rest of the Saiyan race doing right now anyway?

Hey, Eve helped him with the Regen Chamber that's why he was so fast xP


...joking. If anything her idiotic tendancies pushed him back

 

[Zooks]

@Genon


Karas: "Pass me that screwdriver..."


Eve: *Passes him a spanner*


Karas:... "Screwdriver?..."


Eve: "Oh!" *Passes him a nail gun*


Karas: ......


Eve: "I'm helping!!!!!" Goes to grab the hard copy blue prints and messes them all around in a flurry.


Karas: .... Saiyan above *face palm* THANK YOU I'LL BE FINE

 

[Zooks]

@Genon


I'm so making her an engineer to help him out when she's unable to fight.


Poor Karas, maybe I should just have her run and get him food xf

 

[Genon]

@Genon
I'm so making her an engineer to help him out when she's unable to fight.


Poor Karas, maybe I should just have her run and get him food xf

You know I was planning to have Karas take Rakton under his wing post-punishment (YOU STILL HAVEN'T DONE IT @Kyero! xD ).


That also entails programming.


Rakton: Integer killMyEnemies not declared in this scope!? Lvalue required left of operand?! This stupid machine won't do what I tell it to! KARAS, EXPLAIN!


Karas (trying as best he can to not punch Rakton's face in, speaking in a very calm and gentle tone of voice that hides his planet-annihilating rage very, very well): Rakton, computers are dumb as Threxian Poop Mold. The only reason we use them is because they're absurdly fast, and most importantly not us organics. It only understands things that are told to it in a specific way, and cannot make sense of anything on its own. Now, I can explain where you went wrong and show you how to fix it...


Rakton: NO! A TRUE SAIYAN NEVER SURRENDERS!


Karas (rolled a 1 on his composure check): FOR FUCk'S SAKE RAKTON, SAIYAN PRIDE DOESN'T APPLY HERE! IT'S PROGRAMMING! AT A COMPUTER! WE'RE NOT IN MORTAL COMBAT--


Rakton: Speaking of which, Zarytto was pretty angry yesterday. He was yelling something about having dropped Threxian Poop Mold into the Rejuvenation Chamber while he was sleeping. Made him smell like ass when he came out. Eve forced him to wear a hazmat suit to keep the smell in.


Karas: *devilish smile* Oh, that. He had it coming to him, honestly.


Rakton: ...Remind me not to piss you off again.


Karas: *maintains smile* You already have.


Rakton: Eep!

 

[Zooks]

@Genon


I would pay to watch that xD

 

[Genon]

@Genon
I would pay to watch that xD

What? Eve forcing Zarytto into a hazmat suit, the Poop Mold incident, or the scene pictured?

 

[Zooks]

What? Eve forcing Zarytto into a hazmat suit, the Poop Mold incident, or the scene pictured?

Any and all xD the Scene probably hah

 

[Kyero]

You know I was planning to have Karas take Rakton under his wing post-punishment (YOU STILL HAVEN'T DONE IT @Kyero! xD ).
That also entails programming.


Rakton: Integer killMyEnemies not declared in this scope!? Lvalue required left of operand?! This stupid machine won't do what I tell it to! KARAS, EXPLAIN!


Karas (trying as best he can to not punch Rakton's face in, speaking in a very calm and gentle tone of voice that hides his planet-annihilating rage very, very well): Rakton, computers are dumb as Threxian Poop Mold. The only reason we use them is because they're absurdly fast, and most importantly not us organics. It only understands things that are told to it in a specific way, and cannot make sense of anything on its own. Now, I can explain where you went wrong and show you how to fix it...


Rakton: NO! A TRUE SAIYAN NEVER SURRENDERS!


Karas (rolled a 1 on his composure check): FOR FUCk'S SAKE RAKTON, SAIYAN PRIDE DOESN'T APPLY HERE! IT'S PROGRAMMING! AT A COMPUTER! WE'RE NOT IN MORTAL COMBAT--


Rakton: Speaking of which, Zarytto was pretty angry yesterday. He was yelling something about having dropped Threxian Poop Mold into the Rejuvenation Chamber while he was sleeping. Made him smell like ass when he came out. Eve forced him to wear a hazmat suit to keep the smell in.


Karas: *devilish smile* Oh, that. He had it coming to him, honestly.


Rakton: ...Remind me not to piss you off again.


Karas: *maintains smile* You already have.


Rakton: Eep!

I believe I said that Korvaiis has lifted his punishment but still hasn't given him the Zenkai in previous OOC conversation, but I have to get ready for work so I can't track it down right now.

 

[Zooks]

@Genon


Can I still use Rakton to order around? Pppllleaasseeee?

 

[Genon]

@Genon
Can I still use Rakton to order around? Pppllleaasseeee?

Sure, I guess. Keep in mind what you just saw was an absurdly exaggerated version of him. He's a bit more sane right now than before too (at least so he doesn't piss off Korvaiis further), but isn't too eager to interact with anyone.


Come to think of it @Kyero I thought Raid Group 12W was on the ship? I haven't been sure what to do with them, but I assumed that they were left to help Xol guard the supply planet. Would that be acceptable?

 

[Zooks]

Eve trying to help Karas.

 

[Zooks]

@Genon

 

[Webs Elk]

Eve trying to help Karas.

...


Really

 

[Zooks]

[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]...
Really

[/QUOTE]
Eve is in no way a reflection of me and my fear of big words....>_>


So she's kind of an idiot lol

 

[Kyero]

Sure, I guess. Keep in mind what you just saw was an absurdly exaggerated version of him. He's a bit more sane right now than before too (at least so he doesn't piss off Korvaiis further), but isn't too eager to interact with anyone.
Come to think of it @Kyero I thought Raid Group 12W was on the ship? I haven't been sure what to do with them, but I assumed that they were left to help Xol guard the supply planet. Would that be acceptable?

Yes, it would be fine.

 

[Kyero]

@Genon @Zuka @Lord Zanicus @general ostruppen @Anime King Kaleb


I'm going to push us ahead to the deserted planet now. If anything seriously important needs to be addressed, please do so in a flashback sequence once you have the time to respond.


If you are in contact for collaboration with whomever your training partner is, if you have one (R&D team is exempt from training requirement if they feel it necessary), then please let me know about your progress every so often so I know when to expect a post from the two of you regarding the battle. If I don't hear anything from you I will presume that you have nothing to add or have chosen to forgo the training and I will continue to push us forward.


Remember that being vocal is a rule in this RP.


Not to sound like a dick, but if you need me to wait then you need to speak up. If you just want me to wait but can't give me a good reason as to why I should wait, then I will move us ahead. Being silent in the OOC gives me reason to believe that I should push us forward because everyone is likely waiting for an opening to post something.


So if you need me to wait for you then speak up sooner rather than later.


A busy life schedule really is no excuse for not keeping me informed of whether or not you need me to wait for you. It takes, at most, 5 minutes out of a 24 hour day to log on, check the RP, and post in the OOC to say "I need you to wait a day or two so I can post (insert intended post material)."


So keep that in mind moving forward everyone!


But as of now, it's time to arrive at the new planet for training to begin and anything done during the 3 day trip to said planet is hereby sentenced to flashback narrative in your next post!

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[Zooks]

Hey @Kyero


I'm struggling for a drive to post for this RP, mostly because as a player honestly I'm finding it dull. The story progressing with or without my input so as a player it's kind of boring.


Why would you post if your characters don't make a difference? Literally everyone has had thousands of ideas (bar me because, no smart) but none of them ever come into practice.


I just thought you'd like to know.


Not sure how to fix it, either. You have a very definitive idea of the plot and how it will run.


It's a shame really because I really enjoy playing Eve as a character.

 

[Kyero]

Hey @Kyero
I'm struggling for a drive to post for this RP, mostly because as a player honestly I'm finding it dull. The story progressing with or without my input so as a player it's kind of boring.


Why would you post if your characters don't make a difference? Literally everyone has had thousands of ideas (bar me because, no smart) but none of them ever come into practice.


I just thought you'd like to know.


Not sure how to fix it, either. You have a very definitive idea of the plot and how it will run.


It's a shame really because I really enjoy playing Eve as a character.

First, @Zuka, this is a story driven tale and not a character driven one. Sadly the fact of the matter is that you've all presented me with character development ideas and those do not drive the story or alter it in any way. Eve and Zarytto's relationship and Karas' future building projects do not in any way change the story as it is nor do they contribute to how it will play out. Ultimately no matter how close Eve and Zarytto become and no matter what Karas builds, it's not changing the course of the Saiyan's current plight or how Inecros will respond to Korvaiis' refusal to join him.


As I mentioned in previous posts OOC, if you want your characters to be closer to where I'm putting most of the action, then you need to put them there. Korvaiis said find a partner and train, but that doesn't mean you have to obey right away. He won't be happy that the characters are disobeying, but what can he really do except give them an earful and drive the character development further (for better or worse, either of which case is good for us as role-players)? If Korvaiis can sense the strange energy that I mentioned, so could the others (barring Era and Kendra since they were distracted by their animosity for one another), and wouldn't that be reason to not train and seek it out?


But back on the main point... What ideas have you for the actual story itself, Zuka?


I'm open to hearing them if you've got them and would gladly discuss how to incorporate them if you would present them to me.


The story right now is that Inecros has known all along of our new home world despite our efforts to hide it, he knows where we are and what we are doing but chose to let us have our way due to a minor sense of respect for the bravery it took to do it, and right now has offered for us to join him but Korvaiis has declined because of his hatred for Inecros. That rejection will be taken to Inecros by his mercenary and he will likely come for us himself now as previously promised.


Ideas for story would be ideas for things like what to do about this information now that Korvaiis has it? Where to go from here? Who to communicate with next (not just Xol and his allies or Zyra and Elise) for more information and possible things to do to maybe escape Inecros' grip for real? However, will escaping his grip for real perhaps risk never seeing the rest of the Saiyan Race again and living out our character's lives far away from what they know and love and never realizing their desire and oath to destroy Inecros? Also where and when should we experience our first taste of the SS power, and how will the team react to it and what would it do to the dynamic between them experiencing power such as that?


So if you have ideas for things like this which drive the story instead of character development, then I'd be glad to hear what you have to say Zuka. But so far you've only given me character ideas.


The characters could be anyone, but they are who they are now because of who we are as players.


If you're struggling to post because you want to contribute to the story or change the story in some way to make it more interesting and more fun, then contribute ideas to the story.


The story is everything which our characters must react, adapt, and respond to. It is not what our characters say or how they interact with one another. Again, they could be anyone and say or do anything amongst themselves. The universe won't change in response to this. So what can be done to make the universe respond and thus make our characters react, adapt, and respond in kind to the universe?


By all means Zuka if you have ideas for the story rather than character development then please share them with me. I'm open to discussing them with you and anyone else if you all present me with such ideas for how the story, rather than the character development, could go.


Now that Korvaiis has declined the invite to join Inecros, and Inecros is likely to come for us himself now that we've given him no reason to let our activities go unpunished, what should we do from here? Who should our characters encounter (new alien races who could be friend or foe, new isolated individuals perhaps on the same quest as us for vengeance against the Overlord, discovery of some kind of new technology via an encounter or surveillance of a nearby forgotten and uncharted planet which could give them some kind of new ship propulsion, weaponry, further the armor venture, or what have you)?


Who should our characters communicate with for new information on how to proceed without getting themselves killed (Not just Xol, Zyra, or Elise. Perhaps an old acquaintance or comrade of one of our characters from their distant past who knows more of the finer details about what happened on our Saiyan's world 200 years ago when they first encountered and escaped from Inecros)?


Where and when should they discover their first taste of the SS power (False Super Saiyan most likely candidate or at least a brief burst into said form for a split second without a full transformation), etc?


What do you think should happen Zuka, @Genon, @Anime King Kaleb, @Lord Zanicus, @general ostruppen?


Don't tell me what our characters can say or do amongst themselves as a group. Tell me what the universe should provide, how it should shift, how it can chew them up and spit them out or put a gentle and uplifting hand beneath their dangling feet and provide them with a means of salvation or at least hope?


What should happen to the universe for them to react, adapt, and respond to?