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RubyRose said:
@SpookySableye


1st. I think Garo was already in the courtroom. Are you thinking that he was outside and it was just Lyra and Mikey? Because I was picturing Lyra being in like... the defense place in a courtroom and then Garo and the others being in the 'supporters' section behind her. Though I do envision Emma to be in the seat next to her. Just wanted to point out, but otherwise Shane's pose was good. 


2nd. Oh my goodness Eddie's response! Priceless! I'm so excited to write Victor's response because I can already picture how he's going to feel about that look. There's no question he's going to notice it. 


Victor: Uh oh, someone feels threatened. *inner laughter* 


3rd. Robin made me feel so bad for Lanna. Like... I get upset writing Lanna's post but Robin's concern for her just brought all of that sadness right back. She's such a sweetheart, I love her so much. 


Really good post Spooky :)
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Aww, thank you so much Ruby! I had fun writing Eddy and Robin in that post, so it's nice to know that I did a good job with it. Not going to lie, Robin's post made me a little sad too; I FEEL SO BAD FOR LANNA :(


Btw, with Shane I thought most the NCMT was inside (something similar to what you said); I just thought Garo wasn't there for some reason. I'll get to editting that after I'm done with my Yuri Bros post.
 
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@SirBlazeALot


I will get my post out as soon as I can but even if I didn't have a badgering family, it'd be bad for me to write right now seeing as I'm completely ticked off. But I have set up my post to get ready to reply and I plan on getting it done today. By the latest some time tonight. Scouts honor (or maybe farm girls honor because I was never a scout ;D). 
 
RubyRose said:
@SirBlazeALot


I will get my post out as soon as I can but even if I didn't have a badgering family, it'd be bad for me to write right now seeing as I'm completely ticked off. But I have set up my post to get ready to reply and I plan on getting it done today. By the latest some time tonight. Scouts honor (or maybe farm girls honor because I was never a scout ;D). 
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Hype hype hype :D Hopefully you calm down a bit before you start writing :3 
 
Sorry guys. That post... I dug deep to write it and I feel like it's fallen short of my usual standard of writing. Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. 


@Maki


You know Maki, I actually can't even remember what your name used to be. Anyway, back to point when you first wrote Delilah's character I was not entirely sure you could make her as cruel as you made her sound in the CS. And yet there are moments where I really love/hate that character (in the good way. Not because she's badly written, but because she's written well enough to be disliked). Sometimes I don't understand her motivation (She seems like a spoiled kid with toys sometimes. When she gets tired of a toy, she tosses it, despite the detriment that would bring to her group) but you don't always have to understand a character to appreciate them. 


Her haughty attitude is really very fitting and the way she accepted Victor's request but very obviously on her own terms made me grin because of course that's how she's respond. And I wouldn't put it past her to laugh at Victor if he had confessed in the typical way (and I'm very interested to see how she responds to his 'Victor' type confession XD) but I think that warning you gave made me rethink Victor's post. Not that Victor would ever just be like 'Hey Delilah. I love you. Choose me.' it's not in his nature. But I was so concerned about her laughing at Victor (and the mess that would end up being) I was very careful about what I had him say and not say. Perhaps that was your intentions... but that's what happened. Sometimes I think you write a little bit too much of what you know as a writer into your posts. 


The quality of your posts and characters have continued to grow as the rps have continued Maki, and I am very fond of all the characters you write. There's a different flavor to them then other characters and it adds something important to this rp. I couldn't imagine anyone else writing Delilah, or anyone else leading the Nightmares. I'm glad you had her give Victor a chance... and also, that really was Victor's roundabout saying 'I don't know exactly where they are this minute but I'll give a guess and go find them for you if you'd like.' xD


Ellie is... a much stronger character then I originally gave her credit. She continues to remain kind and caring when a lot of other people would have stopped. They would have become bitter or broken... and yet Ellie is still 'I'll protect the kids. I care. You could still be a good person.' I also appreciate the way Ellie still treats the other gang members as equals at times. Like the way she spoke to Charles when fixing Lotus' finger. Sure, there was a pleading in her tone but there was more of a command in there and I thought that was cool. And though it's too bad that she had to give in to Helga to get the kids fed, I think it takes a special strength to do that as well. I just hope things pick up for her soon, I'm really rooting that she and the kids escape soon xD


@theglassangel


Because you just wrote Brennan this time I wanted to go over him before Blaze's post. I think I've told you before how great I think Brennan is as a character. Talk about the strong, silent type! Except some of his thoughts can be so dang suggestive... sorry Xera, I did read way too much into them xD Still, I think he's great. He is a deep thinker and it shows in what he does and says. The strength comes out so obviously when his fam is in danger and when someone needs support. Just... Brennan always seems like a character that would be overlooked because he can be so quiet but you write him so well that he has a presence even when he's not talking. I never have a problem picturing his voice (I hear like a softly spoken Baritone that just happens to carry) and I'm glad you had the time to post for him. Thanks for that, angel!


@SirBlazeALot


My goodness where to start. 


I suppose starting with the first one is a good place, right? Alright, I am going to dig deep on this okay? I am going to give this my absolute best like I have everyone elses because I always say that it's a great post, but never say all of the whys. All of the responses. How much reading your replies effect my day. So here it goes: 


Mikey. Even when he's doing something absolutely cruel, I never really get a sense of 'evil' from him. Like... I know he's a very mean, very dangerous character but evil never comes from him for me. (Not saying he isn't, or that he is. I just never feel that he's evil, emotionally). I have, however, ended up feeling frozen inside after reading a post from him. Especially when I put myself in Lyra's shoes because I can't imagine many intelligent people who wouldn't have a healthy fear of Mikey. He doesn't inspire fear in people in the normal way either. Like a wolf in sheep's clothing, his danger comes from the moments he actually bears his teeth. And he is most definitely one of the scariest characters I've ever read. Oh my god I've gotten chills just from imagining the scene. Which Blaze, I'm sure you realize this but I'mma say it anyway, you are amazing at setting a scene. Your characters moving around, the actual layout of whatever room or area they're in becomes visible in the mind's eye. 


On to the post you made specifically this last round. Mikey's body language often spoke just as loudly as his words did. Like when he had turned away from Lyra 'I don't see you as a threat' and then when he turned back towards her 'I see you need my attention. I will give it to you. You can't leave yet.' And the way he speaks... he's so damn charismatic. I'm sure he could convince a fish that it could breathe air if he had the mind, and the fish would give it a shot and die trying. And when he tells his metaphorical stories, I can imagine grand gestures and a man that once upon a time would have been a good audio book voice. You put inflections on the words you type at the right words to hear the inflections he says. 


The story itself that Mikey told to try and get the idea across was interesting. I don't really agree with the metaphor personally but then I never have anything to do with catching men so it doesn't make sense to me. Viewing it from Lyra's standpoint I think she actually would understand the explanation, and so going from her angle it's a very good metaphor. Also, whereas talking so much can be a bit of a detractor from posts it really fits Mikey's character to go on and on. Sometimes all that is a bit hard to read, but it's really worth reading and I wouldn't want you to change it. I'm just... digging as deep as I can to find somethingbut the problem is even the things I personally had some minor issue with I still the reason for it. This is ridiculous. Like trying to find a valid reason that there's a flaw in Beethoven's music (I'm a small fan of Beethoven) and there's just. How do you pick apart art? Oh my god, how dare you describe something blue when you could have used navy or pale blue etc etc. What can I say, Blaze? There aren't many people who could be so genius as to write a character like Mikey and pull it off. There just... there isn't. No one I've known... you're a very talented writer. So there, I tried. I'll keep trying because good critisism can make people better but I don't know what I can promise here >.< You don't give me much to work with! xD


Helga is the absolute definition of sadistic and cruel and you always write her character to that, except that you also add in lovely little quirks so that she's not deplorable. She's kind of like... Hannibal Lector in my opinion. Like... eating people is so not okay. But otherwise he's such a cool character. If it weren't for Helga liking to cause people pain, she'd be like super adorbs. I also really like how there is minute changes in her personality. Nothing really big but just... tiny little hints, especially when they're emphasized by who she's around. 


Take the current scene with Ellie for example. From what I see I don't think Helga doubted for an instant that Ellie would put the collar on eventually. It was a matter of time and she knew it and Ellie is truly in the palm over he hand. And you know she's going to take advantage of that every chance she gets. And though I'd never call Helga 'nice' she does do little things that could be called 'kindnesses' by some as well. Like giving Ellie a choice in food (Though I wonder if she isn't just going to pull the 'oh, you want to feed them chili? Lets feed them this other thing you looked over instead'). I think Helga's character is a serious shoutout to how well crazy people can mask their craziness except when hidden away. Then again, she doesn't really need to anymore... not when the world has pretty much reached it's end. 


The only thing that I have to say is something that was pointed out to me by someone who is apparently a novel author (I don't know how famous yet. I will find out eventually.) but that I kept doing the whole 'my characters know. My characters know. My characters know.' There is a writing style to that of course, and it sets a certain mindset, but at the same time it's also a weakness writing like that. Telling the audience what your character is or isn't doesn't let them discover it themself and that takes away some of the fun. Some of the 'getting to know' the character. i really can't say much because I'm still doing the same thing. I'm showing the audience a picture of an apple and then saying 'this is an apple' as if they didn't know. 


Also, that's my two cents of digging super deep and I think the way you write is amazing so. That's just advice someone else gave me. I have passed it on. Job done. -Now to actually learn when to use it and when not to use it myself >.< -


Chewie is a character that... kind of backgrounds for me. But not every character can be a favorite and so she falls down the ladder a bit because she doesn't draw the super strong emotions. I find her interesting to read, though. And she's a very useful character too with her engineering smarts. The quirk you have where she speaks so quickly used to really bother me at first because I had trouble reading it buuuuut I figured out how to read it and now I can just hear her chattering away. I'm glad that she's of the mind of giving the little group outside the theater a chance, and I have a feeling if it really wasn't logical to do she wouldn't. She is a sensible character and her responses also make sense. Her idea to bring Lilly is a bit questionable but, you know; backup is good. That Chewie actually had the patience to explain about the discomfort I end up wondering if she did because of the kids. The way she spoke made me think like she was speaking to children almost. Still, it was pretty cool that she take the time to explain it and I think it was the smart thing to do because it kind of smoothed down everyone's hackles. The explanation that she would take care of them was also a nice touch... 


As usual Blaze, your post was phenomenal and it made my day better reading it. 


Sorry about my post just not living up to it >.< 
 
Mikey? More like Negan


im watching the new episode, and everytime Negan does something I think "man, that's something Mikey would do"
 
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RubyRose said:
Sorry guys. That post... I dug deep to write it and I feel like it's fallen short of my usual standard of writing. Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. 


@Maki


You know Maki, I actually can't even remember what your name used to be. Anyway, back to point when you first wrote Delilah's character I was not entirely sure you could make her as cruel as you made her sound in the CS. And yet there are moments where I really love/hate that character (in the good way. Not because she's badly written, but because she's written well enough to be disliked). Sometimes I don't understand her motivation (She seems like a spoiled kid with toys sometimes. When she gets tired of a toy, she tosses it, despite the detriment that would bring to her group) but you don't always have to understand a character to appreciate them. 


Her haughty attitude is really very fitting and the way she accepted Victor's request but very obviously on her own terms made me grin because of course that's how she's respond. And I wouldn't put it past her to laugh at Victor if he had confessed in the typical way (and I'm very interested to see how she responds to his 'Victor' type confession XD) but I think that warning you gave made me rethink Victor's post. Not that Victor would ever just be like 'Hey Delilah. I love you. Choose me.' it's not in his nature. But I was so concerned about her laughing at Victor (and the mess that would end up being) I was very careful about what I had him say and not say. Perhaps that was your intentions... but that's what happened. Sometimes I think you write a little bit too much of what you know as a writer into your posts. 


The quality of your posts and characters have continued to grow as the rps have continued Maki, and I am very fond of all the characters you write. There's a different flavor to them then other characters and it adds something important to this rp. I couldn't imagine anyone else writing Delilah, or anyone else leading the Nightmares. I'm glad you had her give Victor a chance... and also, that really was Victor's roundabout saying 'I don't know exactly where they are this minute but I'll give a guess and go find them for you if you'd like.' xD


Ellie is... a much stronger character then I originally gave her credit. She continues to remain kind and caring when a lot of other people would have stopped. They would have become bitter or broken... and yet Ellie is still 'I'll protect the kids. I care. You could still be a good person.' I also appreciate the way Ellie still treats the other gang members as equals at times. Like the way she spoke to Charles when fixing Lotus' finger. Sure, there was a pleading in her tone but there was more of a command in there and I thought that was cool. And though it's too bad that she had to give in to Helga to get the kids fed, I think it takes a special strength to do that as well. I just hope things pick up for her soon, I'm really rooting that she and the kids escape soon xD


@theglassangel


Because you just wrote Brennan this time I wanted to go over him before Blaze's post. I think I've told you before how great I think Brennan is as a character. Talk about the strong, silent type! Except some of his thoughts can be so dang suggestive... sorry Xera, I did read way too much into them xD Still, I think he's great. He is a deep thinker and it shows in what he does and says. The strength comes out so obviously when his fam is in danger and when someone needs support. Just... Brennan always seems like a character that would be overlooked because he can be so quiet but you write him so well that he has a presence even when he's not talking. I never have a problem picturing his voice (I hear like a softly spoken Baritone that just happens to carry) and I'm glad you had the time to post for him. Thanks for that, angel!


@SirBlazeALot


My goodness where to start. 


I suppose starting with the first one is a good place, right? Alright, I am going to dig deep on this okay? I am going to give this my absolute best like I have everyone elses because I always say that it's a great post, but never say all of the whys. All of the responses. How much reading your replies effect my day. So here it goes: 


Mikey. Even when he's doing something absolutely cruel, I never really get a sense of 'evil' from him. Like... I know he's a very mean, very dangerous character but evil never comes from him for me. (Not saying he isn't, or that he is. I just never feel that he's evil, emotionally). I have, however, ended up feeling frozen inside after reading a post from him. Especially when I put myself in Lyra's shoes because I can't imagine many intelligent people who wouldn't have a healthy fear of Mikey. He doesn't inspire fear in people in the normal way either. Like a wolf in sheep's clothing, his danger comes from the moments he actually bears his teeth. And he is most definitely one of the scariest characters I've ever read. Oh my god I've gotten chills just from imagining the scene. Which Blaze, I'm sure you realize this but I'mma say it anyway, you are amazing at setting a scene. Your characters moving around, the actual layout of whatever room or area they're in becomes visible in the mind's eye. 


On to the post you made specifically this last round. Mikey's body language often spoke just as loudly as his words did. Like when he had turned away from Lyra 'I don't see you as a threat' and then when he turned back towards her 'I see you need my attention. I will give it to you. You can't leave yet.' And the way he speaks... he's so damn charismatic. I'm sure he could convince a fish that it could breathe air if he had the mind, and the fish would give it a shot and die trying. And when he tells his metaphorical stories, I can imagine grand gestures and a man that once upon a time would have been a good audio book voice. You put inflections on the words you type at the right words to hear the inflections he says. 


The story itself that Mikey told to try and get the idea across was interesting. I don't really agree with the metaphor personally but then I never have anything to do with catching men so it doesn't make sense to me. Viewing it from Lyra's standpoint I think she actually would understand the explanation, and so going from her angle it's a very good metaphor. Also, whereas talking so much can be a bit of a detractor from posts it really fits Mikey's character to go on and on. Sometimes all that is a bit hard to read, but it's really worth reading and I wouldn't want you to change it. I'm just... digging as deep as I can to find somethingbut the problem is even the things I personally had some minor issue with I still the reason for it. This is ridiculous. Like trying to find a valid reason that there's a flaw in Beethoven's music (I'm a small fan of Beethoven) and there's just. How do you pick apart art? Oh my god, how dare you describe something blue when you could have used navy or pale blue etc etc. What can I say, Blaze? There aren't many people who could be so genius as to write a character like Mikey and pull it off. There just... there isn't. No one I've known... you're a very talented writer. So there, I tried. I'll keep trying because good critisism can make people better but I don't know what I can promise here >.< You don't give me much to work with! xD


Helga is the absolute definition of sadistic and cruel and you always write her character to that, except that you also add in lovely little quirks so that she's not deplorable. She's kind of like... Hannibal Lector in my opinion. Like... eating people is so not okay. But otherwise he's such a cool character. If it weren't for Helga liking to cause people pain, she'd be like super adorbs. I also really like how there is minute changes in her personality. Nothing really big but just... tiny little hints, especially when they're emphasized by who she's around. 


Take the current scene with Ellie for example. From what I see I don't think Helga doubted for an instant that Ellie would put the collar on eventually. It was a matter of time and she knew it and Ellie is truly in the palm over he hand. And you know she's going to take advantage of that every chance she gets. And though I'd never call Helga 'nice' she does do little things that could be called 'kindnesses' by some as well. Like giving Ellie a choice in food (Though I wonder if she isn't just going to pull the 'oh, you want to feed them chili? Lets feed them this other thing you looked over instead'). I think Helga's character is a serious shoutout to how well crazy people can mask their craziness except when hidden away. Then again, she doesn't really need to anymore... not when the world has pretty much reached it's end. 


The only thing that I have to say is something that was pointed out to me by someone who is apparently a novel author (I don't know how famous yet. I will find out eventually.) but that I kept doing the whole 'my characters know. My characters know. My characters know.' There is a writing style to that of course, and it sets a certain mindset, but at the same time it's also a weakness writing like that. Telling the audience what your character is or isn't doesn't let them discover it themself and that takes away some of the fun. Some of the 'getting to know' the character. i really can't say much because I'm still doing the same thing. I'm showing the audience a picture of an apple and then saying 'this is an apple' as if they didn't know. 


Also, that's my two cents of digging super deep and I think the way you write is amazing so. That's just advice someone else gave me. I have passed it on. Job done. -Now to actually learn when to use it and when not to use it myself >.< -


Chewie is a character that... kind of backgrounds for me. But not every character can be a favorite and so she falls down the ladder a bit because she doesn't draw the super strong emotions. I find her interesting to read, though. And she's a very useful character too with her engineering smarts. The quirk you have where she speaks so quickly used to really bother me at first because I had trouble reading it buuuuut I figured out how to read it and now I can just hear her chattering away. I'm glad that she's of the mind of giving the little group outside the theater a chance, and I have a feeling if it really wasn't logical to do she wouldn't. She is a sensible character and her responses also make sense. Her idea to bring Lilly is a bit questionable but, you know; backup is good. That Chewie actually had the patience to explain about the discomfort I end up wondering if she did because of the kids. The way she spoke made me think like she was speaking to children almost. Still, it was pretty cool that she take the time to explain it and I think it was the smart thing to do because it kind of smoothed down everyone's hackles. The explanation that she would take care of them was also a nice touch... 


As usual Blaze, your post was phenomenal and it made my day better reading it. 


Sorry about my post just not living up to it >.< 
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Maki's old name used to be Kayzo. I still think Kayzo in my mind but I've gotten used to translating it to Maki when I'm talking to you guys so I'm not the one asshole still calling her by her old username lmao.


Alright I got some time for an analysis response before bed so lets do this. Starting with Mikey.


Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you, I didn't copy and paste any of those thank you's I'm just kind of typing off the top of the dome because the praise of his character is definitely appreciated. Especially in the age of Negan being on the walking dead now. I know it's just the bat and the general strategy that draw the comparisons, but as I lamented to you, I really really really want Mikey to have his own identity. His biggest flaw was giving him the bat man. Lol Batman. I've got a few tricks up my sleeve for escaping the Negan comparisons and I'm sure that by the time Arc 1 is said and done he won't be getting them anymore. So in 35 years Mikey and Negan will be incomparable lmfao.


So much to say about Mikey, but for the purpose of not spoiling anything and just giving a glimpse more into his development, I want to touch on him not coming off as evil. When I was talking to you about him and the people/characters that inspired him, I mentioned the Antichrist, and that's the whole evil but not evil element. The Antichrist is a very interesting character in abrahamic tradition, because the whole thing about him is that no one's going to see the antichrist coming and that they will be well liked and followed by many. So it's great to see that coming through, because the thing about Mikey is that he's reasonable and he's forward thinking. He knows that civilization can make a comeback, but that civility has to be enforced just like it was before the apocalypse. So I'm glad to see that Mikey doesn't strike you as a mustache-twirling villain, that's something I really wanted to avoid with him.


One more thing about Mikey, I really don't like how sometimes I'll just let him talk forever. I know that it's very in character for him because he fucking loves to talk, but I just feel like whenever he does that, it's not so much a detriment to the writing of the RP, but just like the mechanics. Because whenever he really starts going off like that, all any other character can do in his vicinity is listen. And from just a pure "this is how roleplays work" perspective, that isn't good. I've no idea how to fix it though, because Mikey really writes himself, so I just try to make sure it isn't something that happens all the time. Luckily, it really doesn't, Mikey's had some pretty short posts, and he's even had some short posts that are mostly dialogue. But still. It's something to think about for sure.


Enough about Mikey, onto Helga. Well, not necessarily Helga, because I don't have anything to say about her that I haven't said to you already. Except maybe that dog motifs are a big thing with her, but I think most people could probably pick up on that. Most of her quirks are based off of canine behavior which is why I think she comes off as adorable, and even funny at times. She's also totally based off of Aubrey Plaza's character in Parks N Rec/Aubrey Plaza's character in everything/Aubrey Plaza in general, what with how she talks and stuff. But mostly dogs. Which brings Mikey and Marcy into play again (dammit just can't escape that guy). I feel like their dog-like characters are perfect reasoning for why Helga gets along with them so well and why she's willing to follow their leadership.


But what I really want to talk about with Helga is with the advice the novelist gave you, because I've been hearing the same advice pretty much my entire life and I agree with it completely. It's definitely hard to do for RPs though because like... RPs are RPs. And I'm not really talking about Helga's post, because the part about the beginning talking about what Helga knew and stuff was just to do a repetition thing with the sentence structure. I just mean the idea as a whole can be weird for RPs, because a lot of the time you want to be crystal clear with what's going on in your post, because you don't want the other 6 or 7 players to be confused. It's the concept of showing and not telling. Definitely in solo writing you want to show people stuff, not lay it out for them flat like "this is an apple." But with RPs, sometimes you really do have to be like "This is an apple" on the off chance that someone might think it's a pomegranate. Idk if that metaphor follows, but I think you guys get what I mean.


OKAY. Onto Chewie. Yes, I have the same feelings about Chewie as being lower on the character ladder both for myself, and I get the vibe others myself. Now at first (by at first I mean like way back when, when explosive was still in this RP), I was like "Aw damn, I gotta fix that somehow." But now I'm like, "Oh dude that's great. The most popular pokemon in the world isn't the most well-liked character in the RP that's ironic as fuck." And she had all the makings for it too. Like with her speech, it's fucking annoying, and purposefully so. Whenever she starts really rambling like that, my goal is to make you guys, the actual players, just give up on trying to read what she's saying to a certain extent, so that your characters can respond as if they didn't hear her properly. Because with as fast as I imagine her speaking, it's supposed to be very difficult to understand her at times. We have the luxury of having her dialogue written out for us to interpret, but the characters don't. It's a meta-asshole thing I do with her. So all in all, it's not that I don't like her, and it isn't that I don't enjoy writing her because I definitely do, but she isn't my favorite either. But you're totally right, she makes up for it by being a utility character, and I think the theater really needed that.


As for her explanation, it wasn't so much that the kids were around. It was more like she could see the flaws in her demands, but she's really just flying by the seat of her pants at this point. She isn't the leader of the theater, she wasn't the leader of the Drifters, she isn't used to making calls like this, so she was unsure of herself. And that's rare for her. She only ended up in the position of spokesperson because she had to stop Lilly from just opening the door. So she had to walk herself through her own logic, and she even lied a bit to them (she has no idea if the theater's actually been as successful as she implied in fending off zombie attacks) just to get them to cooperate. Deep down I think she knows like, alright these guys aren't the worst guys, but she doesn't want to be wrong about that. Because being wrong about them would be a massive blow to her ego, since she's always like "I know what I'm doing, you guys are garbage."    
 
@Lotusy


I find the way Talon talks now fitting to his character a little more. Not that the broken English was a bad thing; you wrote it well and it was interesting to read but I think either way you write Talon is going to work because you know the character best. I think it's absolutely fantastic that you threw in 'And you know how to use all the parts' (definitely more of an indian thing then a farmer thing, but I've personally known some farmers who know how to use the whole cow. Not that I do... I look at a cow and I'm like 'hamberger, steak, and everything else' XD) The way you describe Talon and his way of speech really set the stage and scene for him; I'm excited to see more of him!


'there's a lot of cooties going around'... I love Daniel so much. He's freakin' adorable and that's saying something because I'm not a fan of kids. I think you Sam with the twins pretty well but you're also right about the 3 way blue being a little hard at times. It was a really cute post, and Sam's thoughts are so spot on about Chewie! 


I'm glad you gave a small update on Tyler and Dahlia. It brought them back into the circle of attention without disrupting anything which I think is important. It's nice just to see them, really; I'm debating if I want to do something similar with Charles. Anyway, nice post Lotusy :D It got me giggling! :D  
 
@Maki


Delilah has come such a long way, she's so interesting to read! I think the dynamic and the trouble Delilah and Eddy cause are one of the things that make the Nightmare group, the Nightmares. They cause about as much trouble for one another as they do the outside world, and yet the group still survives. Her smooth talking was rather impressive and I hope you don't mind that I had Victor remain a little suspicious. I just... I want him to continue his obsession with Delilah, but I also want Zai's words to have actually inspired a 'I can have Delilah if I try' response. I think that's the only way he'd become crazy enough to run to another group with the deal of killing Eddy. Anyway, Delilah's dailogue was very well thought out and very her in my opinion. Her snarky attitude was there, but so was her intellect. 


This continued situation with Ellie really wants makes me want to make a hero character to come rescue her. Or force Gabe into rescuing her. I just... she's so innocent! I like how you continue to have a kind of ignorant determination there to stand u pto Helga because it makes Ellie more interesting to read. And that the nurse side of her shows through at times, or perhaps it's the motherly side? I'm referring to the whole 'kids need to eat healthy' thing. And that Ellie also had the audacity/courage to ask for as much as she did... It's interesting seeing a character that is so strong in some ways and yet so weak in others. She's not your stereotypical softhearted girl, she has a backbone and just enough ignorance to be cute. 


@SirBlazeALot


How did you come up with Mikey's plan? DId you just have it figured out from the beginning? It's really rather genius and I was rather impressed with it. 


Mikey's speech had me nodding along before I realized that he was a fictional character plotting and I should be thinking of how Lyra would respond. Thanks for mentioning Charles, by the way; I considered writing in an 'what he's observed so far' but when it came to prioritizing I realized I'd rather get this written out. Maybe next time I'll be able to. I do appreciate you throwing that in, though; Charles probably straightened at the mention and got an all important look about him. I still can't get over the 'you've got to get rid of the dead bodies' though. That was amazing :) Very Mikey. 


Way to make Helga even more Helga with 'you earned a treat but not as big a one as you think you have.' I find it amusing how Helga keeps kind of shutting Ellie down and Ellie doesn't really notice, or purposely doesn't notice. That's probably one of the things that makes it fun for Helga, though, right? Because people that are automatically obedient are pretty boring (at least in my opinion XD). Also, when she sighed and told Ellie she couldn't have meat and fruit, I could just picture Helga's shoulders dropping a moment with an expression of 'seriously? is she actually serious'. It was awesome! 

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Also... so... the colors with Glacier, Chewie, and Lilly make me think of candy. The colors were bright and amusing and I think you melded the three characters together quite well. Honestly Blaze I think you do a great job of reading situations; knowing when to push a character more into the background or to bring them to the point of interest. I also think it's hilarious that even Glacier had a comment on the wedding, granted the procession went from skipping to being dragged so... xD And Lilly's response to Daniel and Vanessa has opened up a lot of possibilities in getting to know the twins better which I think was super smart!! 


And of course, Oran. A very short, sweet, to the point post that's just like the character. Thanks for that soft notice of Lanna but it's true to character for Oran to focus on the immediate situation and not stop everything to comfort someone. Especially because I kind of feel he's on the side of 'expecting more' from Lanna. Anyway, Oran's comments brings to attention if Talon will remain with the group or not which I think is important because a smart group wouldn't just drive a stranger to their base and if we don't make a note of 'you staying or going, Talon' they will kind of end up driving in Johanna forever. So way to get those wheels in motion. 


Good post, Blaze. Long and short, neither post is always better then the other. Your post was well thought out and helped a few points move along :)


@theglassangel


I'm GLAD you got the time to get Brennan and Emma in! It was great seeing the both of them! 


From the beginning, having Emma as a strong presence next to Lyra made so much sense and honestly I think Lyra's responses would have been bad if she didn't have Emma there beside her. I ohpe you didn't find Lyra's response rude at all; I think even if Mikey were across the room Lyra would be concerned about him overhearing anything. It's also good to see a character that's not being completely swept away with Mikey's words. THen again, Garo probably isn't either... I keep trying to show Lyra getting swept up and then reminding herself that Mikey is the enemy. Because I think for some people that's how it would work... just like how being around some people, they can somehow convince you to believe what they believe. But once you leave them, then you realize that you don't actually believe the same thing. (I don't know how better to explain it outside of my dad talks about religion and convinces me to his beliefs until I'm no longer in his company and I realize that I don't actually agree with half of what he's said XD) 


Brennan can be ridiculously nice, sometimes. He's very... benevolant, I guess. He cares about other people, though he's strong enough not to just welcome anyone into his group. It's fascinating to see his posts. Also, does anyone else get a kind of yin/yang feeling from Brennan and Oran. The two compliment each other so well... If Xera weren't around I think that Oran would be the second. Or at least an unlabeled second. It's wonderful having a caring character in a world full of people who have survived through being careless. And Brennan has such a big heart... makes me just want to hug him :P
 
RubyRose said:
I'm GLAD you got the time to get Brennan and Emma in! It was great seeing the both of them! 


From the beginning, having Emma as a strong presence next to Lyra made so much sense and honestly I think Lyra's responses would have been bad if she didn't have Emma there beside her. I ohpe you didn't find Lyra's response rude at all; I think even if Mikey were across the room Lyra would be concerned about him overhearing anything. It's also good to see a character that's not being completely swept away with Mikey's words. THen again, Garo probably isn't either... I keep trying to show Lyra getting swept up and then reminding herself that Mikey is the enemy. Because I think for some people that's how it would work... just like how being around some people, they can somehow convince you to believe what they believe. But once you leave them, then you realize that you don't actually believe the same thing. (I don't know how better to explain it outside of my dad talks about religion and convinces me to his beliefs until I'm no longer in his company and I realize that I don't actually agree with half of what he's said XD) 


Brennan can be ridiculously nice, sometimes. He's very... benevolent, I guess. He cares about other people, though he's strong enough not to just welcome anyone into his group. It's fascinating to see his posts. Also, does anyone else get a kind of yin/yang feeling from Brennan and Oran. The two compliment each other so well... If Xera weren't around I think that Oran would be the second. Or at least an unlabeled second. It's wonderful having a caring character in a world full of people who have survived through being careless. And Brennan has such a big heart... makes me just want to hug him :P
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no, i'm glad! the weekends only system is really working for me ^-^


i had a bad day today, but this has helped me out! (personal news is in the spoiler, both good and bad)

god, group projects suck, and i'm planning on asking to do it alone. it's only a 3-5 minute presentation, so the load isn't too much. it's seriously... ugh. at least the person i'm working with knows i'm really particular about my grades and who i work with. he's not... the sharpest tool in the shed. he says he's 'smart', but only pulls about an 85% gpa on top of the fact that he kisses up to teachers more than i do. on top of the fact he thinks getting good grades equates to being intelligent, when his grades/social skills/willingness to learn aren't all too impressive either. tl;dr, he gives off an air of arrogance.


i just don't agree with what his values are and the way he approaches life. everything he seriously does annoys me, but he respects the fact that i'm willing to put that aside. he isn't a bad person, and it doesn't help that i'm just antisocial, nitpicky and just neurotic. >////<


at least i got into that exec position i told you about! haven't heard back from the hospital yet, but at least i have something that will last me for the rest of my year.



i've typed all of my characters according to their mbti type. emma came up as an isfj, which i completely agree with. i intended her to be as 'strong and silent' as brennan, but definitely less logical and more selfless for others. i think the prime difference between her and brennan is that brennan is selfless because it aligns with his own moral right. emma is more selfless to maintain the peace and keep others happy. emma senses that everyone else feels tense, espeically garo, which helps affirm to her that this isn't the right thing to think/agree with. i never thought of lyra's response to be rude, and i don't think emma would either. she's good at picking up on those things.


i'm not personally religious myself, nor is anyone in my family. my relatives in asia are definitely more spiritual than religious, if anything, so i've never had to go through people pushing their beliefs onto me. i consider myself to be quite stubborn in that regard so it doesn't happen to me often, though i do get some cracks in resistance until i think on it a little more. like, "what if this really was the case and what makes them believe this is the case?" in the middle of a conversation. if i don't agree with them, i move on. typically, i ask them what makes them think so. i ask lots of questions all the time, and with something that isn't very logical and more personal emotions, you kind of start to notice that they begin to crack or run out of things to say. at that point, i just tune it out and dismiss it. most of the time, i'll smile and nod on the exterior if i know it definitely isn't worth arguing.


i'm definitely not used to writing quieter characters like brennan and emma. brennan is an istj, btw. i think brennan and oran have a silent mutual respect for each other even if they do disagree on some things. more often than not, finding a middle ground comes rather easily to them. if i did have to type oran, i think he'd be an estj. can you tell i love typing people? xD


very true! i think he's already an unlabeled figure of authority within the drifters.
 
Hey guys,


So I'm writing Talon's post right now, and I'm not going to have him immediately ask to join the group without a really strong reason, since that doesn't really feel in line with what he's done so far, but of course I still want him to join the Drifters. So I just want to ask, which option sounds better?


1. He offers to help prepare hamburgers (I'm actually looking up stuff about that now, and apparently there's some fatty stuff around the spine (Tallow) that's used to hold a burger together, so that sounds like Talon-harvests-the-cow job, right?


2. His herd wandered near the Drifter Base while everyone was fighting. He sees them and chases them to the base, then sticks around to make hamburgers. (Or he could get shot, idk).
 
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Lotusy said:
Hey guys,


So I'm writing Talon's post right now, and I'm not going to have him immediately ask to join the group without a really strong reason, since that doesn't really feel in line with what he's done so far, but of course I still want him to join the Drifters. So I just want to ask, which option sounds better?


1. He offers to help prepare hamburgers (I'm actually looking up stuff about that now, and apparently there's some fatty stuff around the spine (Tallow) that's used to hold a burger together, so that sounds like Talon-harvests-the-cow job, right?


2. His herd wandered near the Drifter Base while everyone was fighting. He sees them and chases them to the base, then sticks around to make hamburgers. (Or he could get shot, idk).
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I'd say 1. 
 
@Lotusy Hey I like orange for Sam. Coming from someone who's extremely anal about making sure his characters don't have similar colors, I think using a pokemon's secondary color is a good idea. I had to do something similar with Oran because at the time I had hella blue dudes (Garo + some Arc 2 guys I haven't reposted) so I used red and I think it worked out pretty well. Matches his aggressiveness. 
 
@SirBlazeALot


I'm all for pushing the scene on, personally, but that's more because I want to see how the fight goes down and less anything else. 


Also, dude, we have to do Gar and Zai because I want to know how awkward and unhappy I should be writing Gar after this xD  


But I mean, no rush... it is something I want to do before the fight tho :P But like, 2-3 more rounds is 2-3 weeks right? So yeah, no rush. Just thought I'd mention it. 


Also, also, also I still plan on writing posts on everything so yeah. Count me in this week man :D  On allll of the rps. 
 
RubyRose said:
@SirBlazeALot


I'm all for pushing the scene on, personally, but that's more because I want to see how the fight goes down and less anything else. 


Also, dude, we have to do Gar and Zai because I want to know how awkward and unhappy I should be writing Gar after this xD  


But I mean, no rush... it is something I want to do before the fight tho :P But like, 2-3 more rounds is 2-3 weeks right? So yeah, no rush. Just thought I'd mention it. 


Also, also, also I still plan on writing posts on everything so yeah. Count me in this week man :D  On allll of the rps. 
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We can totally start that rapid fire now I have very few that are running rn. Still need to do Shua & Tonyo's though. I know this is probably better saved for Yuri Bro conversation but I totally wanted @theglassangel's Officer Bradley to be among one of the police officers pulling up to them but she's hella busy :T


But basically yeah, Gar & Zai lets do it. Do you wanna start or shall I?

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I'm pretty packed this week so I'll post on the weekend. If I'm lucky I'll post earlier than that. 
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Does that go for Yuri Bros too?


How do you feel about the timeskip?
 
SirBlazeALot said:
We can totally start that rapid fire now I have very few that are running rn. Still need to do Shua & Tonyo's though. I know this is probably better saved for Yuri Bro conversation but I totally wanted @theglassangel's Officer Bradley to be among one of the police officers pulling up to them but she's hella busy :T


But basically yeah, Gar & Zai lets do it. Do you wanna start or shall I?


Does that go for Yuri Bros too?


How do you feel about the timeskip?
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Timeskip? I'll reread the post. and yeah YB too
 
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SirBlazeALot said:
We can totally start that rapid fire now I have very few that are running rn. Still need to do Shua & Tonyo's though. I know this is probably better saved for Yuri Bro conversation but I totally wanted @theglassangel's Officer Bradley to be among one of the police officers pulling up to them but she's hella busy :T


But basically yeah, Gar & Zai lets do it. Do you wanna start or shall I?
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We can hold off on them until she's not if you'd like. Because Officer Bradley would be fun to have in there :D Patience is something I have. Most of the time. Technically ;D 


I'll go get that started :D
 
I'm all about some nightmares confrontation. xD


I haven't been on rpn all day, so i apologize. I'm not a filthy american so i think I'll be good this post cycle excluding homework. I also have an exec meeting on Sunday so I'm not sure… ahhh, instead of regular stress, it'll be happy-ish stress. I'll also be hosting a health care evening thing during the week, so hopefully I'm not too cramped. No one says i can't make a rough draft when presentations are happening xD
 
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Ugh, turns out my response didn't go through. Sorry for the delayed message.


@SirBlazeALot I'm all for pushing ahead to the battle. I don't know what I'all do with Dahlia, but I really want to throw Tyler and Roscoe to start getting violent, especially since I haven't used them recently. Roscoe especially, I just want to have him lead the Nightmares through Nimbasa is all. : )
 
@SirBlazeALot


I'm thankful you got a post out today. Gives me something to respond to while I'm surrounded by crazy family ;D Granted I won't have my laptop so I probably won't write the response until tonight. 
 
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