Nation Building Cold War: 1945 (REBOOT) OOC/Rules/Map

[The Omen of Death]

You can basically consider it an emergency UN meeting before the actual first UN meeting to try to secure peace.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

CabalAnomicPotato . The U.S. Navy is coming to town to call your bluff. Checkmate commie.

Bluff? Oh, I think you meant "the U.S navy is comming to declarw war"

 

[Pat]

Like, I kinda want war with the Soviets. Just a little bit. Guess scorching red ants with a spyglass will do for now until I can incinerate the real things with atomic weapons.

 

[Pat]

Bluff? Oh, I think you meant "the U.S navy is comming to declarw war"

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

Like, I kinda want war with the Soviets. Just a little bit. Guess scorching red ants with a spyglass will do for now until I can incinerate the real things with atomic weapons.

If you wanna war, all you gotta do is attack my ships, which will not attack first. We will legit let you run a ship of yours into ours and will consider it a declaration of war, as long as you are declaring it

 

[Pat]

You can basically consider it an emergency UN meeting before the actual first UN meeting to try to secure peace.

Question, can the United States eventually get Liberty Prime if we poured enough resources and time into getting it?

 

[The Omen of Death]

Ok that's it, we will definitely need a emergency UN meeting because this is pretty much a possible another big war scenario...

Question, can the United States eventually get Liberty Prime if we poured enough resources and time into getting it?

After wasting decades and a shit ton of money, just to get it in the distant future and causing tax payers to go "... What the fuck did the government just make us pay for with our money?" Yeah sure!!!!!

 

[Pat]

Ok that's it, we will definitely need a emergency UN meeting because this is pretty much a possible another big war scenario...


After wasting decades and a shit ton of money, just to get it in the distant future and causing tax payers to go "... What the fuck did the government just make us pay for with our money?" Yeah sure!!!!!

So by approximately by 2077?

 

[The Omen of Death]

So by approximately by 2077?

Probably and that's a conservative estimate as this isn't fallout

 

[Pat]

Probably and that's a conservative estimate as this isn't fallout

At the rate this is going it will be.

 

[The Omen of Death]

At the rate this is going it will be.

Well maybe if you weren't being antagonizing for the sake of spiting the USSR we wouldn't have a situation so close to yet another war... that's why we need to calm down the rhetoric as we aren't even done with turn 1 and it already looks like a huge war between the USSR is going to happen.

 

[Pat]

Well maybe if you weren't being antagonizing for the sake of spiting the USSR we wouldn't have a situation so close to yet another war... that's why we need to calm down the rhetoric as we aren't even done with turn 1 and it already looks like a huge war between the USSR is going to happen.

There's been a couple close calls during the Cold War. This could be one of them, or it could be the prelude to World War Three. That's what keeps this interesting I think. There should almost always be friction that could escalate if responded to in a certain way into bigger conflict. Otherwise this would essentially turn into a Ronald Reagan Simulator.

 

[The Omen of Death]

There's been a couple close calls during the Cold War. This could be one of them, or it could be the prelude to World War Three. That's what keeps this interesting I think. There should almost always be friction that could escalate if responded to in a certain way into bigger conflict. Otherwise this would essentially turn into a Ronald Reagan Simulator.

True but I mean this instance was antagonism for the sake of antagonism, I mean of course I would love to see close calls of a possible World War III however the reasoning for you bringing in your navy to Asian shores just again seems like antagonism for the sake of antagonism.

 

[Pat]

True but I mean this instance was antagonism for the sake of antagonism, I mean of course I would love to see close calls of a possible World War III however the reasoning for you bringing in your navy to Asian shores just again seems like antagonism for the sake of antagonism.

Freedom of navigation exercises are far from unusual. Antagonism for the sake of antagonism isn't unheard of either, although it is rarer. For example, the USN is doing some freedom of navigation exercises in the South China Sea right about now in real life I think.

 

[Pat]

Like these freedom of navigation exercises are provocative by nature because they're conducted (usually by superior navies) to challenge another nation's claim or authority over another area, because most of the time the people doing them believe that no one country controls the oceans.

 

[The Omen of Death]

Freedom of navigation exercises are far from unusual. Antagonism for the sake of antagonism isn't unheard of either, although it is rarer. For example, the USN is doing some freedom of navigation exercises in the South China Sea right about now in real life I think.

But I mean at this time that's not truly an accepted concept first idea of it really comes about in 1950 from the UN. So right now this appears to be simply an event that is driving the world close to war which shouldn't be happening a month after WWII the world is war weary and I don't think a war over simply moving a navy in an area is going to fly.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

Freedom of navigation exercises are far from unusual. Antagonism for the sake of antagonism isn't unheard of either, although it is rarer. For example, the USN is doing some freedom of navigation exercises in the South China Sea right about now in real life I think.

Um, just so we are clear, my navy is only blocking off China, as in, in civil war China, we could easily make the claim we were "keeping the war in a simi controled environment, and preventing outside help for either side" and claim thar "picking sides in a civil war this big would be similar to the Austro-Hungarian Serbia situation that stirred the first world war"
Basicially, I have the UN on my side, and you are the agressor.
Im not blocking trade to any other part of Asia.

 

[Pat]

But I mean at this time that's not truly an accepted concept first idea of it really comes about in 1950 from the UN. So right now this appears to be simply an event that is driving the world close to war which shouldn't be happening a month after WWII the world is war weary and I don't think a war over simply moving a navy in an area is going to fly.

1950 was when it was first agreed upon by the international community. The concept itself stretches back centuries for individual countries and occasionally small groups of nations.

 

[The Omen of Death]

1950 was when it was first agreed upon by the international community. The concept itself stretches back centuries for individual countries and occasionally small groups of nations.

Yes but that also means not every nation agreed with it. Either way the NPC nations aren't going to stand for another war so they are going to try their hand at starting with peace.

 

[CabalAnomicPotato]

You know what I think? If he backs down I win, if he attacks I use it to fuel propaganda, I still win :p

 

[Pat]

Um, just so we are clear, my navy is only blocking off China, as in, in civil war China, we could easily make the claim we were "keeping the war in a simi controled environment, and preventing outside help for either side" and claim thar "picking sides in a civil war this big would be similar to the Austro-Hungarian Serbia situation that stirred the first world war"
Basicially, I have the UN on my side, and you are the agressor.
Im not blocking trade to any other part of Asia.

There's no aggression yet. Just a response. That's like saying if the British and French and everyone else responded to the remilitarization of the Rhineland they would be the aggressors, the people who provoked a response. Besides, sides have already definitely been picked and substantially aided in this civil war already.

 

[The Omen of Death]

There's no aggression yet. Just a response. That's like saying if the British and French and everyone else responded to the remilitarization of the Rhineland they would be the aggressors, the people who provoked a response. Besides, sides have already definitely been picked and substantially aided in this civil war already.

Thing is the US is taking an action that could lead to a war if USSR holds firm.

 

[The Omen of Death]

I will be soon creating a PM for the UN. And then this issue will be discussed and hopefully for the NPC's sake peace is achieved.

 

[Pat]

CabalAnomicPotato you do know one of the two nations in China you're blockading is going to be a security council member in the United Nations, right? That and the British and French, who could go either way but are likely biased towards the U.S. have seats?

 

[Pat]

I will be soon creating a PM for the UN. And then this issue will be discussed and hopefully for the NPC's sake peace is achieved.

This'll be great. Does everyone get invited?