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ACHA
Clown Prince of Crime
It's called trade, not raid. They rhyme but they mean greatly different things.
Greenbriar
Exile
While we greatly respect the more enterprising Houses of the realm, we note that any ironwood groves presently being forested are doubtless already under binding contract with the Crown.
Any further measures Lords Forrester and Whitehill wish to undertake in order to increase production and trade separately are of course their own affair.
Any further measures Lords Forrester and Whitehill wish to undertake in order to increase production and trade separately are of course their own affair.
Ms MistyEye
Member
For the record none of my characters have great aspirations for the throne, they may try to establish an independent North in the chaos. Though looking at the state of things atm it's looking more and more like they'll get dragged into the fighting.
On another note I feel stupidly old, just turned 19 :/
On another note I feel stupidly old, just turned 19 :/
Greenbriar
Exile
It's ok Misty, us old ladies can stick together (23 last Monday).
WanderingJester
Cool shuppy waddling away from explosions
HAPPY BIRTHDAYS! (I don't know why I'm screaming this at youse but there you go)
Also @Hypnos, well then perhaps we should arrange for the acquisition of the stewardship of the Ironwood in the North from House Forrester to House Whitehill, especially if Lord Whitehill is willing to accept a better price from the Westerlands for them.
Grammatic
Knight of Nevermore
The Whitehill power is greatly diminished. They grew very powerful through their aid and support of the Boltons. With the Starks back in charge, the Forresters will prosper again.
WanderingJester
Cool shuppy waddling away from explosions
Only because they have no backers. Suppose someone decided to finance them so that they can increased their seat's fortifications, industry and soldiers, their power would grow quickly to catch up and I daresay even surpass the Forresters. Someone with more wealth than the Boltons could ever hope to gain. Someone... with a mountain of gold perhaps?
...and ladies and gentlemen, we're witnessing the formation of the Red Keep's flight squad between the lionesses and a red dragon :3 xD
Grammatic
Knight of Nevermore
Even if they grew in power and military strength, their Ironwood is gone. They would literally have to either steal or fight for the Forrester Ironwood, or buy it first then sell it, thereby minimizing their profits.
WanderingJester
Cool shuppy waddling away from explosions
Yes, hence, acquisition of the stewardship of Ironwood.
How Lord Whitehill does it is entirely up to him.
Grammatic
Knight of Nevermore
Mhm
Hypnos
L'Empereur
Is Lord Greyjoy interested in the great Ironwood groves of the North? Perhaps steps could be taken to ensure that he only makes his ships out of the finest of lumber...
The Forresters may have signed away their Ironwood but the Whitehills would never trade away their groves!
Because we don't have any : (
Happy late Birthday!
HAPPY BIRTHDAYS! (I don't know why I'm screaming this at youse but there you go)
Also @Hypnos, well then perhaps we should arrange for the acquisition of the stewardship of the Ironwood in the North from House Forrester to House Whitehill, especially if Lord Whitehill is willing to accept a better price from the Westerlands for them.
The Whitehills will not sit idly by whilst their birth right is squandered and pillaged by the Forrester menace. It is not only a matter of business, it is also a matter of pride.
It's not called stealing if you are taking back what is rightfully yours in the first place.
Grammatic
Knight of Nevermore
They had their chance, and they squandered theirs, not need for them to waste all of it.
Hypnos
L'Empereur
This is a clear example of Forrester arrogance, and a reason why it would be dangerous to allow them a monopoly on the realm's Ironwood. Just because us Whitehills were better at shifting our products onto the people of the realm does not mean that we squandered it, if the Forresters had not stolen our groves and taken them for themselves then we would continue to make a large profit long into the future.
Grammatic
Knight of Nevermore
The twisted mind of a Whitehill would see it that way, yes. And by long into the future, they mean the next 5 or so years.
Hypnos
L'Empereur
The Forresters have always shit on the Whitehill family, they laugh, and jape behind our backs, they mock us to our very faces. Perhaps it is not the twisted view of a Whitehill but rather the clarity of truth.
Grammatic
Knight of Nevermore
Tragic, but, they had their chance.
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Hypnos
L'Empereur
And the Forresters have had theirs, yet they do nothing with it. They chastise the Whitehills for actually bothering to use our Ironwood, then they sit lamely on their own, not allowing the realm to fulfill its needs.
Grammatic
Knight of Nevermore
The realm gets Ironwood, but not in the droves they want it. We Forresters understand that we have to cultivate, and properly care for the Ironwood to last for generations. We see the long term picture.
Hypnos
L'Empereur
Well the Whitehill family actually cares for its patrons however, and their desires. They could have continued producing Ironwood for thousands of years, had the treacherous Forresters not stolen their groves and taken their Ironwood by force.
Grammatic
Knight of Nevermore
Our patrons are the North, and then the realm. We don't bow immediately to the Southern lords the moment gold coins are offered.
Hypnos
L'Empereur
We put the realm first, we would not let foolish nationalism come in the way of helping as many people as possible.
Grammatic
Knight of Nevermore
As long as those people have gold, naturally.
Hypnos
L'Empereur
Oh I'm sorry, I wasn't aware the Forresters were giving away Ironwood out of the kindness of their hearts, mayhaps since Lord Forrester is running a charity now he wouldn't mind giving us our groves back.