Mion
Always Tired
Westeros has huge variety though and I would believe they would outclass them navy wise.
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Westeros has huge variety though and I would believe they would outclass them navy wise.
Archon
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Uh, aren't the Roman Legions outclassed significantly gear-wise? Whilst I'm no expert on the matter, Romans had little to no contact with professional armies, considering the Parthians were nomadic Horse Riders and Gaul + Britain etc, were largely unequipped, disorganized tribesmen. I don't think they'd be able to deal with the strength Westeros could throw at them in the form of Siegecraft, Knights and a United Banner. Since lets face it, Rome are the ones who'll be trying to conquer Westeros.
Mion
Always Tired
This, plus I doubt they would be able to land in Westeros easily and even then would be at a significant disadvantage due to the extreme terrains of GRRM.
TheAncientCelt
The Leech Lord
Biggest factor for me is that not all of the population had;
- Formal Training
- Equipment (on par with a standard legionnaire)
- Strategic knowledge
- Discipline
- Leadership
A legionnaire would make a fort every time they stopped, of either stone or layers of palisade walls. Make two or more ditches around the fort, set up traps in the ditches as well. This could be down almost nightly, if they were on campaign. They were masters at building and fortifying an area. And, while siege craft is superior in Westeros, this isn't the conventional kind that would draw out catapults. Likewise, making your own road, knowing what water is safe to drink, and a state funded military with veterans who serve for at least 25 years, gives the Roman military force a massive advantage over the conscripted peasants.
Knights have no small amount of training either. Horses are larger, the stirrups make cavalry more important and their armor and steel is no doubt superior. Better bows, too. But, the amount of soldiers per battle who would be fighting with these advantages aren't as high as the population of Roman soldiers who have middling armor (comparatively), but better training and leadership.
And any armor advantage is likely to not be a long lived one. Defectors, stolen weaponry, even just buying it from apathetic lords - the Romans are likely to get steel and some greater horses, the longer the war goes on.
The quality of steel, stirrups, and style of armor are the biggest factors.
Romans used steel, mostly as an outer, harder layer in their armor, and had iron underneath - more flexible material after all. Some weapons were made of steel as well. Just, the quality was poorer than what would later be normalized in Europe.
The Romans thought the Parthians (which were thoroughly Persian, just with what could be amounted to a special division of cavalry that outclassed rival horse riders) were just savages too. Crassus was ambushed and destroyed because of it, they had armor much like the Romans, fought in formations, but were known for their cavalry. Despite that, Rome still managed to sack their capital 6 or 7 times and install a puppet emperor of Persia during Trajans time. Rome also fought Carthage, Illirya, the Greek states and Macedonia, Israel, a few minor Briton Kingdoms, and each other. It's been tested against opponents of equal mettle before.
Mion
Always Tired
Westeros is very diverse, the Dornish and Dornish marches would be experts at raids and guerilla warfare. Also Rome would have to siege INSANE castles.
WanderingJester
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Rome's very diverse as well. I feel like the ex-Persian auxillaries and those in the Middle East would be able to match the hit the run tactics of Dornishmen. Rome's also sieged "insane" castles before. Note: Carthage.
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TheAncientCelt
The Leech Lord
Siege is where it gets tricky, but I'm convinced not all of Westeros would put up the standard, Stannis defense.
The Dornish would be no different than the Parthians, who scored a handful of solid blows on Rome in her time, but ultimately lost most of the wars. Germanics, Celts, the Belgae, the Scoti and Caledonians, Picts. Rome fought a handful of opponents who would of used Dornish tactics, too.
TheAncientCelt
The Leech Lord
Julius Caesar;s Legions fought in the invasion of Britain, and a few years later, were in Greece and Egypt fighting the Senate Forces and Egyptian Army. Climate is no issue for Rome, she draws people in from every background.
WanderingJester
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That's another thing. Rome's ability to move massive amount of materials and men, over the distance that they regularly die, with the speed and efficiency that they did, is nothing less than a marvel. That's something that would give them a decisive edge over Westeroes, and something that would make it hard pressed for any other nation to match.
Of course, this all falls apart without a strong leader(s) to head the Republic, Empire, but if Augustus or Tiberius-like figures at the helm? It would be a deadly deadly weapon.
TheAncientCelt
The Leech Lord
Give me Germanicus the Greater or Germanicus the Younger. Both destroyed Germania and pacified the region for a long period of time. Trajan would destroy the Vale like he did Dacia, and probably end up winning battles in the Riverlands before peace was sued.
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TheAncientCelt
The Leech Lord
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@Hypnos
Is this character accepted?
Disregard 'da modern clothes.
Name:
Conn Greyjoy
Gender:
Male
Age:
29
Nicknames / Titles:
Lord Of The Iron Islands
King Of The Iron Islands
The Greyjoy
"I'm uncultured" Greyjoy
Marital Status:
Single
Personality:
Conn Greyjoy is a bastard. Not a literal bastard-- just a bastard. The Iron Islands have a standard for all of its people and Conn is no exception. He is tough, and has been made tougher through-out his years due to living almost all his life away from home.
However, Conn has some interests that would seem somewhat foreign to your average Ironborn. Conn is a lot more politically savvy than his people. He can be very eloquent and well-mannered when he wants to be. But, some say he has a slight touch of madness as well. He can be uncouth and unforgiving when he desires. He is a very strange person in the sense that he will sometimes give things tremendous thought, and other times he will act rash.
Crazed mood swings aside; The Ironborn actually respect Conn. They may make jest about him and there is always talk on whether he is actually a madman or not- but, the people of The Iron Islands actually admire him and his leadership. In turn, Conn admires his people as well and feels as if The Ironborn can conquer the world if they tried hard enough.
This, however, doesn't stop Conn from being vicious against his own kind- as he is known to drown any Ironborn who seriously opposes him.
So do not trust him by appearance. He may seem like an attractive, charming young man- but he is that and so much worse.
He's not ruthless... just... a bastard.
Biography:
Conn Greyjoy is the third-born son of Lord Benjiman "The Blue Man" Greyjoy and currently the only living son.
Conn's eldest brother, Corynk, was groomed as 'heir' to The Iron Islands from an early age- but, he died at the young age of 14. Conn's other brother, Harlon, was the next heir after their brother's death. As he did not think he'd die; Conn left The Iron Islands aged 11 to venture across Planetos with his uncle- who commanded a large vessel known as "The Sea Spire".
Conn visited many an ocean, and many a place. He traveled from Pyke, to Braavos, to Lys, to Old Valyria, to Slaver's Bay, to Yi Ti, to ( even ) The Thousand Isles.
When he was on an island in The Jade Sea- he met a young woman called Na'i. He abandoned his uncle's ship and stayed with Na'i for several years, before she produced a bastard daughter for him.
Na'i died shortly after childbirth and Conn used what little coin he had left to bring himself and his daughter to Astapor where he worked as dockworker. After earning a small fortune, he bought a small ship with a terrible crew and made his way back to Westeros where he arrived to find that his family had failed their fifth rebellion. His father, and his only remaining brother had perished whilst attempting to sack King's Landing.
Conn was now "The Lord Of The Iron Islands". He was unprepared and unwilling- but, his uncle and sister managed to coax him into accepting the position.
His years of adventuring had made him more than a lil' scatterbrained however. His reign as 'lord' started off badly when he got in argument with Olyvar Volmark and had him executed by drowning him off the coast of Old Wyk.
House Volmark soon rose their banners up against Conn, but, Conn's silver tongue managed to ease them down- well, he also had help from his uncle and sister.
Now, six years after his rule began, Conn is ready to avenge Benjiman and Harlon by taking The Iron Throne and keeping it.
Other:
Conn has developed a slightly exotic and weird accent over the years of living away from Westeros. This only adds to his "charm".
Conn isn't that good of a fighter, but if there was something he excelled at- it'd be sea warfare. He is alright with a sword, but, far from the best.
Conn is missing a thumb on his left hand, he lost it in a 'knife game' with his brother Harlon when they were quite young.
Many a maester has tried to... 'identify' Conn's so-called mental illness and many a maester has been beaten because of it.
He loves the company of women, but he once bedded a man in a Tyroshi brothel and he didn't really mind it. As he would say;
Is this character accepted?
Disregard 'da modern clothes.
Name:
Conn Greyjoy
Gender:
Male
Age:
29
Nicknames / Titles:
Lord Of The Iron Islands
King Of The Iron Islands
The Greyjoy
"I'm uncultured" Greyjoy
Marital Status:
Single
Personality:
Conn Greyjoy is a bastard. Not a literal bastard-- just a bastard. The Iron Islands have a standard for all of its people and Conn is no exception. He is tough, and has been made tougher through-out his years due to living almost all his life away from home.
However, Conn has some interests that would seem somewhat foreign to your average Ironborn. Conn is a lot more politically savvy than his people. He can be very eloquent and well-mannered when he wants to be. But, some say he has a slight touch of madness as well. He can be uncouth and unforgiving when he desires. He is a very strange person in the sense that he will sometimes give things tremendous thought, and other times he will act rash.
Crazed mood swings aside; The Ironborn actually respect Conn. They may make jest about him and there is always talk on whether he is actually a madman or not- but, the people of The Iron Islands actually admire him and his leadership. In turn, Conn admires his people as well and feels as if The Ironborn can conquer the world if they tried hard enough.
This, however, doesn't stop Conn from being vicious against his own kind- as he is known to drown any Ironborn who seriously opposes him.
So do not trust him by appearance. He may seem like an attractive, charming young man- but he is that and so much worse.
He's not ruthless... just... a bastard.
Biography:
Conn Greyjoy is the third-born son of Lord Benjiman "The Blue Man" Greyjoy and currently the only living son.
Conn's eldest brother, Corynk, was groomed as 'heir' to The Iron Islands from an early age- but, he died at the young age of 14. Conn's other brother, Harlon, was the next heir after their brother's death. As he did not think he'd die; Conn left The Iron Islands aged 11 to venture across Planetos with his uncle- who commanded a large vessel known as "The Sea Spire".
Conn visited many an ocean, and many a place. He traveled from Pyke, to Braavos, to Lys, to Old Valyria, to Slaver's Bay, to Yi Ti, to ( even ) The Thousand Isles.
When he was on an island in The Jade Sea- he met a young woman called Na'i. He abandoned his uncle's ship and stayed with Na'i for several years, before she produced a bastard daughter for him.
Na'i died shortly after childbirth and Conn used what little coin he had left to bring himself and his daughter to Astapor where he worked as dockworker. After earning a small fortune, he bought a small ship with a terrible crew and made his way back to Westeros where he arrived to find that his family had failed their fifth rebellion. His father, and his only remaining brother had perished whilst attempting to sack King's Landing.
Conn was now "The Lord Of The Iron Islands". He was unprepared and unwilling- but, his uncle and sister managed to coax him into accepting the position.
His years of adventuring had made him more than a lil' scatterbrained however. His reign as 'lord' started off badly when he got in argument with Olyvar Volmark and had him executed by drowning him off the coast of Old Wyk.
House Volmark soon rose their banners up against Conn, but, Conn's silver tongue managed to ease them down- well, he also had help from his uncle and sister.
Now, six years after his rule began, Conn is ready to avenge Benjiman and Harlon by taking The Iron Throne and keeping it.
Other:
Conn has developed a slightly exotic and weird accent over the years of living away from Westeros. This only adds to his "charm".
Conn isn't that good of a fighter, but if there was something he excelled at- it'd be sea warfare. He is alright with a sword, but, far from the best.
Conn is missing a thumb on his left hand, he lost it in a 'knife game' with his brother Harlon when they were quite young.
Many a maester has tried to... 'identify' Conn's so-called mental illness and many a maester has been beaten because of it.
He loves the company of women, but he once bedded a man in a Tyroshi brothel and he didn't really mind it. As he would say;
TheFordee20
One Thousand Club
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Archon
Friendly Neighborhood Gem-Collector
@Hypnos
Is this character accepted?
Disregard 'da modern clothes.
Name:
Conn Greyjoy
Gender:
Male
Age:
29
Nicknames / Titles:
Lord Of The Iron Islands
King Of The Iron Islands
The Greyjoy
"C*nt" Greyjoy
Marital Status:
Single
Personality:
Conn Greyjoy is a bastard. Not a literal bastard-- just a bastard. The Iron Islands have a standard for all of its people and Conn is no exception. He is tough, and has been made tougher through-out his years due to living almost all his life away from home.
However, Conn has some interests that would seem somewhat foreign to your average Ironborn. Conn is a lot more politically savvy than his people. He can be very eloquent and well-mannered when he wants to be. But, some say he has a slight touch of madness as well. He can be uncouth and unforgiving when he desires. He is a very strange person in the sense that he will sometimes give things tremendous thought, and other times he will act rash.
Crazed mood swings aside; The Ironborn actually respect Conn. They may make jest about him and there is always talk on whether he is actually a madman or not- but, the people of The Iron Islands actually admire him and his leadership. In turn, Conn admires his people as well and feels as if The Ironborn can conquer the world if they tried hard enough.
This, however, doesn't stop Conn from being vicious against his own kind- as he is known to drown any Ironborn who seriously opposes him.
So do not trust him by appearance. He may seem like an attractive, charming young man- but he is that and so much worse.
He's not ruthless... just... a bastard.
Biography:
Conn Greyjoy is the third-born son of Lord Benjiman "The Blue Man" Greyjoy and currently the only living son.
Conn's eldest brother, Corynk, was groomed as 'heir' to The Iron Islands from an early age- but, he died at the young age of 14. Conn's other brother, Harlon, was the next heir after their brother's death. As he did not think he'd die; Conn left The Iron Islands aged 11 to venture across Planetos with his uncle- who commanded a large vessel known as "The Sea Spire".
Conn visited many an ocean, and many a place. He traveled from Pyke, to Braavos, to Lys, to Old Valyria, to Slaver's Bay, to Yi Ti, to ( even ) The Thousand Isles.
When he was on an island in The Jade Sea- he met a young woman called Na'i. He abandoned his uncle's ship and stayed with Na'i for several years, before she produced a bastard daughter for him.
Na'i died shortly after childbirth and Conn used what little coin he had left to bring himself and his daughter to Astapor where he worked as dockworker. After earning a small fortune, he bought a small ship with a terrible crew and made his way back to Westeros where he arrived to find that his family had failed their fifth rebellion. His father, and his only remaining brother had perished whilst attempting to sack King's Landing.
Conn was now "The Lord Of The Iron Islands". He was unprepared and unwilling- but, his uncle and sister managed to coax him into accepting the position.
His years of adventuring had made him more than a lil' scatterbrained however. His reign as 'lord' started off badly when he got in argument with Olyvar Volmark and had him executed by drowning him off the coast of Old Wyk.
House Volmark soon rose their banners up against Conn, but, Conn's silver tongue managed to ease them down- well, he also had help from his uncle and sister.
Now, six years after his rule began, Conn is ready to avenge Benjiman and Harlon by taking The Iron Throne and keeping it.
Other:
Conn has developed a slightly exotic and weird accent over the years of living away from Westeros. This only adds to his "charm".
Conn isn't that good of a fighter, but if there was something he excelled at- it'd be sea warfare. He is alright with a sword, but, far from the best.
Conn is missing a thumb on his left hand, he lost it in a 'knife game' with his brother Harlon when they were quite young.
Many a maester has tried to... 'identify' Conn's so-called mental illness and many a maester has been beaten because of it.
He loves the company of women, but he once bedded a man in a Tyroshi brothel and he didn't really mind it. As he would say;
0/10 - Not David Wenham
TheAncientCelt
The Leech Lord
diwa
hiraya manawari
@Hypnos
Is this character accepted?
Disregard 'da modern clothes.
Name:
[SIZE= 36px]Conn Greyjoy[/SIZE]
Gender:
Male
Age:
29
Nicknames / Titles:
Lord Of The Iron Islands
King Of The Iron Islands
The Greyjoy
"C*nt" Greyjoy
Marital Status:
Single
Personality:
Conn Greyjoy is a bastard. Not a literal bastard-- just a bastard. The Iron Islands have a standard for all of its people and Conn is no exception. He is tough, and has been made tougher through-out his years due to living almost all his life away from home.
However, Conn has some interests that would seem somewhat foreign to your average Ironborn. Conn is a lot more politically savvy than his people. He can be very eloquent and well-mannered when he wants to be. But, some say he has a slight touch of madness as well. He can be uncouth and unforgiving when he desires. He is a very strange person in the sense that he will sometimes give things tremendous thought, and other times he will act rash.
Crazed mood swings aside; The Ironborn actually respect Conn. They may make jest about him and there is always talk on whether he is actually a madman or not- but, the people of The Iron Islands actually admire him and his leadership. In turn, Conn admires his people as well and feels as if The Ironborn can conquer the world if they tried hard enough.
This, however, doesn't stop Conn from being vicious against his own kind- as he is known to drown any Ironborn who seriously opposes him.
So do not trust him by appearance. He may seem like an attractive, charming young man- but he is that and so much worse.
He's not ruthless... just... a bastard.
Biography:
Conn Greyjoy is the third-born son of Lord Benjiman "[COLOR= rgb(0, 51, 102)]The Blue Man[/COLOR]" Greyjoy and currently the only living son.
Conn's eldest brother, Corynk, was groomed as 'heir' to The Iron Islands from an early age- but, he died at the young age of 14. Conn's other brother, Harlon, was the next heir after their brother's death. As he did not think he'd die; Conn left The Iron Islands aged 11 to venture across Planetos with his uncle- who commanded a large vessel known as "The Sea Spire".
Conn visited many an ocean, and many a place. He traveled from Pyke, to Braavos, to Lys, to Old Valyria, to Slaver's Bay, to Yi Ti, to [SIZE= 12px]( even )[/SIZE] The Thousand Isles.
When he was on an island in The Jade Sea- he met a young woman called Na'i. He abandoned his uncle's ship and stayed with Na'i for several years, before she produced a bastard daughter for him.
Na'i died shortly after childbirth and Conn used what little coin he had left to bring himself and his daughter to Astapor where he worked as dockworker. After earning a small fortune, he bought a small ship with a terrible crew and made his way back to Westeros where he arrived to find that his family had failed their fifth rebellion. His father, and his only remaining brother had perished whilst attempting to sack King's Landing.
Conn was now "The Lord Of The Iron Islands". He was unprepared and unwilling- but, his uncle and sister managed to coax him into accepting the position.
His years of adventuring had made him more than a lil' scatterbrained however. His reign as 'lord' started off badly when he got in argument with Olyvar Volmark and had him executed by drowning him off the coast of Old Wyk.
House Volmark soon rose their banners up against Conn, but, Conn's silver tongue managed to ease them down- well, he also had help from his uncle and sister.
Now, six years after his rule began, Conn is ready to avenge Benjiman and Harlon by taking The Iron Throne and keeping it.
Other:
Conn has developed a slightly exotic and weird accent over the years of living away from Westeros. This only adds to his "charm".
Conn isn't that good of a fighter, but if there was something he excelled at- it'd be sea warfare. He is alright with a sword, but, far from the best.
Conn is missing a thumb on his left hand, he lost it in a 'knife game' with his brother Harlon when they were quite young.
Many a maester has tried to... 'identify' Conn's so-called mental illness and many a maester has been beaten because of it.
He loves the company of women, but he once bedded a man in a Tyroshi brothel and he didn't really mind it. As he would say;
Holy crap.. So this is the Conn??
Hypnos
L'Empereur
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Very original idea. Approved!
@Hypnos
Is this character accepted?
Disregard 'da modern clothes.
Name:
Conn Greyjoy
Gender:
Male
Age:
29
Nicknames / Titles:
Lord Of The Iron Islands
King Of The Iron Islands
The Greyjoy
"C*nt" Greyjoy
Marital Status:
Single
Personality:
Conn Greyjoy is a bastard. Not a literal bastard-- just a bastard. The Iron Islands have a standard for all of its people and Conn is no exception. He is tough, and has been made tougher through-out his years due to living almost all his life away from home.
However, Conn has some interests that would seem somewhat foreign to your average Ironborn. Conn is a lot more politically savvy than his people. He can be very eloquent and well-mannered when he wants to be. But, some say he has a slight touch of madness as well. He can be uncouth and unforgiving when he desires. He is a very strange person in the sense that he will sometimes give things tremendous thought, and other times he will act rash.
Crazed mood swings aside; The Ironborn actually respect Conn. They may make jest about him and there is always talk on whether he is actually a madman or not- but, the people of The Iron Islands actually admire him and his leadership. In turn, Conn admires his people as well and feels as if The Ironborn can conquer the world if they tried hard enough.
This, however, doesn't stop Conn from being vicious against his own kind- as he is known to drown any Ironborn who seriously opposes him.
So do not trust him by appearance. He may seem like an attractive, charming young man- but he is that and so much worse.
He's not ruthless... just... a bastard.
Biography:
Conn Greyjoy is the third-born son of Lord Benjiman "The Blue Man" Greyjoy and currently the only living son.
Conn's eldest brother, Corynk, was groomed as 'heir' to The Iron Islands from an early age- but, he died at the young age of 14. Conn's other brother, Harlon, was the next heir after their brother's death. As he did not think he'd die; Conn left The Iron Islands aged 11 to venture across Planetos with his uncle- who commanded a large vessel known as "The Sea Spire".
Conn visited many an ocean, and many a place. He traveled from Pyke, to Braavos, to Lys, to Old Valyria, to Slaver's Bay, to Yi Ti, to ( even ) The Thousand Isles.
When he was on an island in The Jade Sea- he met a young woman called Na'i. He abandoned his uncle's ship and stayed with Na'i for several years, before she produced a bastard daughter for him.
Na'i died shortly after childbirth and Conn used what little coin he had left to bring himself and his daughter to Astapor where he worked as dockworker. After earning a small fortune, he bought a small ship with a terrible crew and made his way back to Westeros where he arrived to find that his family had failed their fifth rebellion. His father, and his only remaining brother had perished whilst attempting to sack King's Landing.
Conn was now "The Lord Of The Iron Islands". He was unprepared and unwilling- but, his uncle and sister managed to coax him into accepting the position.
His years of adventuring had made him more than a lil' scatterbrained however. His reign as 'lord' started off badly when he got in argument with Olyvar Volmark and had him executed by drowning him off the coast of Old Wyk.
House Volmark soon rose their banners up against Conn, but, Conn's silver tongue managed to ease them down- well, he also had help from his uncle and sister.
Now, six years after his rule began, Conn is ready to avenge Benjiman and Harlon by taking The Iron Throne and keeping it.
Other:
Conn has developed a slightly exotic and weird accent over the years of living away from Westeros. This only adds to his "charm".
Conn isn't that good of a fighter, but if there was something he excelled at- it'd be sea warfare. He is alright with a sword, but, far from the best.
Conn is missing a thumb on his left hand, he lost it in a 'knife game' with his brother Harlon when they were quite young.
Many a maester has tried to... 'identify' Conn's so-called mental illness and many a maester has been beaten because of it.
He loves the company of women, but he once bedded a man in a Tyroshi brothel and he didn't really mind it. As he would say;
Very original idea. Approved!
TheAncientCelt
The Leech Lord
We had too much Wenham. We need to relax on the Wenham.
I'll post for him shortly.
TheFordee20
One Thousand Club
Leusis
Two Thousand Club
Also, to put my only significant knowledge to use..... Westeros would win in 1 of 2 ways
1. Romans never even land because a completely united Westeros would have somewhere around 1,500 ships of better craftsmanship and size and would just destroy the Romans on the water.
2. If the Romans somehow managed to overcome the navy and landed they'd be met with a force of somewhere likely numbering in the 30,000 range of just knights, knights wearing fullplate wielding 8 foot lances, shields, and longswords. This force alone backed up by the several hundreds of thousands of foot soldiers would destroy the Romans in the first engagement. The footman while less organized and worse trained may not match the romans, but with the romans cav on the wings being destroyed practically at the very start of the battle by the larger force of superior cav, said cav would then proceed to hammer and anvil the romans into the dirt until they would all rather kill themselves rather than face another charge.
Also, you are all forgetting that Westeros also has ridiculous generals they can call on such as Randyll Tarly to help their already massive advantage in cav and skirmish capabilities due to the longbow.
1. Romans never even land because a completely united Westeros would have somewhere around 1,500 ships of better craftsmanship and size and would just destroy the Romans on the water.
2. If the Romans somehow managed to overcome the navy and landed they'd be met with a force of somewhere likely numbering in the 30,000 range of just knights, knights wearing fullplate wielding 8 foot lances, shields, and longswords. This force alone backed up by the several hundreds of thousands of foot soldiers would destroy the Romans in the first engagement. The footman while less organized and worse trained may not match the romans, but with the romans cav on the wings being destroyed practically at the very start of the battle by the larger force of superior cav, said cav would then proceed to hammer and anvil the romans into the dirt until they would all rather kill themselves rather than face another charge.
Also, you are all forgetting that Westeros also has ridiculous generals they can call on such as Randyll Tarly to help their already massive advantage in cav and skirmish capabilities due to the longbow.
TheAncientCelt
The Leech Lord
Gonna reply later, I disagree with the second scenario and the first is more nuanced.
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WanderingJester
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Briar isn't part of the RP (here's hoping that she'll come back T_T ) So, it's just general GM stuffs :/ @Hypnos