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[TheAncientCelt]

I mean, it really depends on where in America you're from, obviously some of the accents in the southern states are influenced by Spanish, and I believe that the New Yrok accent is at least partially influenced by Dutch. Some areas are sure to be more English than others.

It could've been, but the English forced the Dutch out. . In the 1600's, right? Wouldn't know exactly how that helped the New York accent develop, I do know however that The New York/New England City accents are probably more English than any other accent, to my knowledge. As you probably know (not sure for Aussie's), most of your accents have a softer or no R, whereas the standard American accents have a heavy and emphasized R. New England Cities (Boston is an exception, more influenced by thousands of irish coming through) dropped/never picked up the R like most Americans. At least, when looking at the standard Brooklyn accent motif. You'd probably get more English-y in North Western U.S.A too, but that's just conjecture based off of the shared territory there. 


I don't know if you're talking about Spanglish or a southern draw. . Not sure where the Southern Draw(s) come from. They're odd. Not the nicest to hear, either. But Spanglish is totally a new thing. . . 


I do love a good accent talk, though. That and how languages change (definitely tied together, just felt like putting accents out first) interests me a great deal. 

 

[TheAncientCelt]

Eh, I'm fine with Lil' Ireland. I've got a soft spot for Ireland, it's odd. Although I'd argue that we're larger than both England and Ireland, but whatever. Also, the Australian accent and the English accent (although there are multiple English accents, soooo...) do sound kinda similar, when you're in the cities, I think. English is definitely more received pronunciation, but they're vaguely similar. It's definitely got plenty of Irish roots, Australia, cause of the whole convicts thing. I've been told that the country Australian accent and the Irish accent sound similar, and I've promptly told those people that they need to lay off the LSD. There'd just been some Irish Catholic rebellion or some shit, so England was just like 'oh lookey, we've got just the place to send you lot to' and stuffed them on some boats that set sail for Australia, which maaaaay have been called New Holland at that point. I think it was. Somedude Flanders suggested Australia (Terra Australis, but he preferred Australia) in the 1800's sometime. And the First Fleet happened maybe before that. Iunno, I'm not too clear on Aussie history, it's boring as fuck. More complicated than that, but basically that.


I've got no clue on the American accent. There's different sounds and they're from different places, and I haven't spoken to or heard nearly enough Americans to tell.

Oh yes. . The long and sorted history between Ireland and England. It all started when they decided, "Hey.. That island looks nice." And a thousand years of headaches in the British Isles ensued. I couldn't quite speak for the Australian accent as much as I can for some of the English or some of the Irish (Galaway is by far my favorite, a pal in another RP linked me to it and it's pretty much music). Though, not saying much for the multiple English or Irish. I only knew One English guy at school and he was a bit of a Chad Type. But, i do know the English accents, typically, are more rhythmic and pleasant to hear. Some of the pronunciations make things flow better and give a nice, defined sense of sophistication. You can get that in some Americans, but the accent is, to my ears, rather plain. 


Quick question to the both of you. How do you pronounce water? 


I catch myself, mostly I'll pronounce it as "wood-er/wuudder" or "wa-r-tur". 

 

[Hypnos]

It could've been, but the English forced the Dutch out. . In the 1600's, right? Wouldn't know exactly how that helped the New York accent develop, I do know however that The New York/New England City accents are probably more English than any other accent, to my knowledge. As you probably know (not sure for Aussie's), most of your accents have a softer or no R, whereas the standard American accents have a heavy and emphasized R. New England Cities (Boston is an exception, more influenced by thousands of irish coming through) dropped/never picked up the R like most Americans. At least, when looking at the standard Brooklyn accent motif. You'd probably get more English-y in North Western U.S.A too, but that's just conjecture based off of the shared territory there. 


I don't know if you're talking about Spanglish or a southern draw. . Not sure where the Southern Draw(s) come from. They're odd. Not the nicest to hear, either. But Spanglish is totally a new thing. . . 


I do love a good accent talk, though. That and how languages change (definitely tied together, just felt like putting accents out first) interests me a great deal. 

Britain acquired the colony put there were still a lot of Dutch settlers present, which is why most Dutch-Americans descended from that area (If I remember correctly the Roosevelts actually had Dutch decent) and it would have been a mixture of the differant accents in the area that led to the current New York accent.


I think there's a lot of factors that affect the American accents, I remember reading something a while ago about how a major factor was the English civil war, since when Cromwell initially pushed out the Protestant royalists a lot of them fled to the Americas to escape prosecution, then when King Charles reclaimed the throne, a lot of Catholics also fled to the Americas to again, escape prosecution, and that's a major aspect to how the accents developed and why some places in the US sound more like Northern Englanders, (Your Sean Bean) and some like your Southern Englanders (The Queen)

 

[TheAncientCelt]

Britain acquired the colony put there were still a lot of Dutch settlers present, which is why most Dutch-Americans descended from that area (If I remember correctly the Roosevelts actually had Dutch decent) and it would have been a mixture of the differant accents in the area that led to the current New York accent.


I think there's a lot of factors that affect the American accents, I remember reading something a while ago about how a major factor was the English civil war, since when Cromwell initially pushed out the Protestant royalists a lot of them fled to the Americas to escape prosecution, then when King Charles reclaimed the throne, a lot of Catholics also fled to the Americas to again, escape prosecution, and that's a major aspect to how the accents developed and why some places in the US sound more like Northern Englanders, (Your Sean Bean) and some like your Southern Englanders (The Queen)

I know that was the major push for the Americas, before richer people in England and other places realized that it was a great place for raw materials. Lotta people fleeing the power of the crown, or well, Cromwell, and wanting religious self determination. It's funny to see how much that has transcended American culture. Like, the Puritans who came over, sex is bad. Cursing isn't alright either, but violence is okay. Permeates how the Hollywood and entertainment industries act to this very day, and why showing boobs or anything is just. . A big no-no and scandalous. Boobs or skin in a movie, not like. .Walking around naked, obviously. 


Wouldn't surprise me if the Roosevelts were. Most of the Politicial and Economic elite back then weren't from "diverse" backgrounds, but typically from old colonial families. French, English, Scottish, Dutch. I didn't know how well the Dutch did under English rule, I assumed they sort of. . Adapted and eventually became North American Colonials, wouldn't shock me if something about their culture impacted mine to this day, like the Puritians still having a strangle hold, morally, over a lot of the nation. 


I wish we had Sean Bean's running around. I really do. . . The most you might get to him is in like, Northern Michigan. 

 

[Hypnos]

Oh yes. . The long and sorted history between Ireland and England. It all started when they decided, "Hey.. That island looks nice." And a thousand years of headaches in the British Isles ensued. I couldn't quite speak for the Australian accent as much as I can for some of the English or some of the Irish (Galaway is by far my favorite, a pal in another RP linked me to it and it's pretty much music). Though, not saying much for the multiple English or Irish. I only knew One English guy at school and he was a bit of a Chad Type. But, i do know the English accents, typically, are more rhythmic and pleasant to hear. Some of the pronunciations make things flow better and give a nice, defined sense of sophistication. You can get that in some Americans, but the accent is, to my ears, rather plain. 


Quick question to the both of you. How do you pronounce water? 


I catch myself, mostly I'll pronounce it as "wood-er/wuudder" or "wa-r-tur". 

I pronounce it with a hard 'T', but I come from an area where it is more common to either under pronounce the 't' in words or just forgo them entirely. Where I come from isn't really famous for having the traditional upper class British accent, infact rather the opposite to be honest.

 

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Oh yes. . The long and sorted history between Ireland and England. It all started when they decided, "Hey.. That island looks nice." And a thousand years of headaches in the British Isles ensued. I couldn't quite speak for the Australian accent as much as I can for some of the English or some of the Irish (Galaway is by far my favorite, a pal in another RP linked me to it and it's pretty much music). Though, not saying much for the multiple English or Irish. I only knew One English guy at school and he was a bit of a Chad Type. But, i do know the English accents, typically, are more rhythmic and pleasant to hear. Some of the pronunciations make things flow better and give a nice, defined sense of sophistication. You can get that in some Americans, but the accent is, to my ears, rather plain. 


Quick question to the both of you. How do you pronounce water? 


I catch myself, mostly I'll pronounce it as "wood-er/wuudder" or "wa-r-tur". 

Well, the history between the two wasn't quite like that, but it's a decent summary, I suppose, going off what I remember about it. I mean, I know that the Normans dicked around in Ireland during the 12th Century, but that died soon. A big factor in that going away was the Bubonic Plague and how native Irish people lived in places less heavily affected by it. Something about rural communities and something something. And then the War of the Roses killed English interest in Ireland. And then the Irish were shitty allies so England came back over and mashed their faces in again. That sort of thing. Definitely had a tumultuous relationship, those two.


A Chad type? Wat. Please link me that, I love the Irish accent. Have you ever heard an accent and just thought 'I'd marry someone who spoke like that just to keep hearing that voice'? Yeah, that, for me.


I pronounce water as 'war-ter'. When I say it quickly, it's closer to 'war-tah' or the like.


Aaaand suddenly I feel out of my depth. I might retreat back into Attila and steamroll some more until I feel better.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

I pronounce it with a hard 'T', but I come from an area where it is more common to either under pronounce the 't' in words or just forgo them entirely. Where I come from isn't really famous for having the traditional upper class British accent, infact rather the opposite to be honest.

. . . Do you mean. . 


"Wa'a, Gov'na?" Kinda slang? Please do. Please be like those Chimney Cleaners from Mary Poppin's. 

 

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Someone should make a Discord channel. We can compare accents, if nothing else.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

Well, the history between the two wasn't quite like that, but it's a decent summary, I suppose, going off what I remember about it. I mean, I know that the Normans dicked around in Ireland during the 12th Century, but that died soon. A big factor in that going away was the Bubonic Plague and how native Irish people lived in places less heavily affected by it. Something about rural communities and something something. And then the War of the Roses killed English interest in Ireland. And then the Irish were shitty allies so England came back over and mashed their faces in again. That sort of thing. Definitely had a tumultuous relationship, those two.


A Chad type? Wat. Please link me that, I love the Irish accent. Have you ever heard an accent and just thought 'I'd marry someone who spoke like that just to keep hearing that voice'? Yeah, that, for me.


I pronounce water as 'war-ter'. When I say it quickly, it's closer to 'war-tah' or the like.


Aaaand suddenly I feel out of my depth. I might retreat back into Attila and steamroll some more until I feel better.

Can I just say, I love the fact that for. . What was it? Two hundred-ish years, the Anglos, Saxons, Jutes, Scoti, Britons, and whatever ambiguous Celts were left. Were all ruled by French Vikings (Norsemen, technically, but they were under the French King still. Even if they didn't respect him.)


It just. . I love that idea, and I love how weird History is like that. And yeah, welll. . . I know. Weird, complicated and bad history between the two. I'm not as learned up as, probably you or Hypnos. All's I know is that England "won" in the end, but that victory amounted to constant civil disobedience in Ireland. At least in the last century (yeah, 1922. I get it. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN).


I am not 100% certain this is Galaway, the Irish friend I spoke of earlier saw a few of this person's videoes and concluded it probably was from Galaway (herself being from Cork, but living in the States). I don't understand the video, but it's hilarious. Anddd. . .Some British and French Canadian women. But having a 8+ out of 10 body also helped. A lot. 










Are, , Are you playing a game? 

Someone should make a Discord channel. We can compare accents, if nothing else.

xD


I'd love to, buttt. . Brother, his Asian friend, and myself (I didn't help) built my PC. And, it's great, but. . My mic doesn't work. I'd have to use my phone and the discord app.


I'd be down in general. I use Discord to do quicker RP's with my other group. So I'm on there a lot. 


@Hypnos


Also. Explain what Craic is. 

 

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Can I just say, I love the fact that for. . What was it? Two hundred-ish years, the Anglos, Saxons, Jutes, Scoti, Britons, and whatever ambiguous Celts were left. Were all ruled by French Vikings (Norsemen, technically, but they were under the French King still. Even if they didn't respect him.)


It just. . I love that idea, and I love how weird History is like that. And yeah, welll. . . I know. Weird, complicated and bad history between the two. I'm not as learned up as, probably you or Hypnos. All's I know is that England "won" in the end, but that victory amounted to constant civil disobedience in Ireland. At least in the last century (yeah, 1922. I get it. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN).

Believe me, I'm not nearly as knowledgeable on this as I'm coming off. I just google all the shit.


Also, yes. History's little odd things like that are hilarious. It's why I'm planning to study it in Uni and why I like it so much. History is my jam. In Year 7, I taught a Year 12 Ancient History class for 15 minutes on a brief overview of the Roman Military and how it changed. Didn't get into the later periods, sadly.

I am not 100% certain this is Galaway, the Irish friend I spoke of earlier saw a few of this person's videoes and concluded it probably was from Galaway (herself being from Cork, but living in the States). I don't understand the video, but it's hilarious. Anddd. . .Some British and French Canadian women. But having a 8+ out of 10 body also helped. A lot. 

Cheers. That accent isn't what I thought it would be. I think I might mildly prefer other variations of Irish. Still quite pleasant to hear, though.

Anddd. . .Some British and French Canadian women. But having a 8+ out of 10 body also helped. A lot. 

Where the fuck did this come from? I'm confused.

Are, , Are you playing a game?

Hell no. My mind is going back in time and possessing Attila. Tee hee, now I'm making him dance! But actually:

xD


I'd love to, buttt. . Brother, his Asian friend, and myself (I didn't help) built my PC. And, it's great, but. . My mic doesn't work. I'd have to use my phone and the discord app.


I'd be down in general. I use Discord to do quicker RP's with my other group. So I'm on there a lot.

Ah, son of a whore. Wait, your computer got build to not allow your microphone to work? Your PC has a built-in mic? Bruh. I didn't even know that was a thing. I use a headset. I'd make the Discord thing, but I have NO IDEA how to do it. I'd have to google the shit out of it.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

Believe me, I'm not nearly as knowledgeable on this as I'm coming off. I just google all the shit.


Also, yes. History's little odd things like that are hilarious.


Cheers. That accent isn't what I thought it would be. I think I might mildly prefer other variations of Irish. Still quite pleasant to hear, though.


Where the fuck did this come from? I'm confused.


Hell no. My mind is going back in time and possessing Attila. Tee hee, now I'm making him dance! But actually:

Ah, son of a whore. Wait, your computer got build to not allow your microphone to work? Your PC has a built-in mic? Bruh. I didn't even know that was a thing. I use a headset. I'd make the Discord thing, but I have NO IDEA how to do it. I'd have to google the shit out of it.

No no. I have a mic. But it doesn't work. I tried, a year or two ago, and my only like. . I could either TALK and not hear. or HEAR and not talk. Real frustrating. I can do the calls on my phone. I just need to either whisper in my room or walk outside and talk, where my family won't be able to listen. 


THAT CAME FROM THE ACCENT MARRYING THING! BE QUIET. It's legit like. . My fourth night not sleeping till noon. I am a bit loopy and am running on no energy. 


. . . Attila. That fucking son of a Steppe whore. Rome was doomed before he invaded, sure. He made sure to push all those fucking Germans deeeeep, deeeep into the heart of the Western Empire though. Make sure Attila dies. 

 

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

No no. I have a mic. But it doesn't work. I tried, a year or two ago, and my only like. . I could either TALK and not hear. or HEAR and not talk. Real frustrating. I can do the calls on my phone. I just need to either whisper in my room or walk outside and talk, where my family won't be able to listen.

Aaaaah, I see. Yeah, that's irritating as fuck. I'd kill someone, I admire your restraint. The killing someone thing is probably the dirty criminal blood in me. Weird thing, you'd think having an ancestor on the First Fleet or who was a convict wouldn't be something you'd publicise, right? Like if, in a hundred years, the President of the US just came out and said 'oh yeah, I'm descended from Al Capone'. But no, having a First Fleet ancestor puts you in some special club of people who are awesome. It's a point of pride to have murderers and rapists in the family. Granted, many First Fleeters weren't that bad, but still. Fucking weird-ass Australia.

THAT CAME FROM THE ACCENT MARRYING THING! BE QUIET. It's legit like. . My fourth night not sleeping till noon. I am a bit loopy and am running on no energy.

Fourth night not sleeping till noon? My brain can't parse that statement. You mean, you've reversed your sleeping schedule and you now go to bed at noon? Or do you usually sleep till noon for some fucking strange reason, somehow? But yeah, I see now. British is really vague, and I've never heard a French Canadian accent. I feel like I'm missing out, though. But surely it can't be better than an Irish gal, can it?

. . . Attila. That fucking son of a Steppe whore. Rome was doomed before he invaded, sure. He made sure to push all those fucking Germans deeeeep, deeeep into the heart of the Western Empire though. Make sure Attila dies.

Dude, already done. Playing the Sassanids right now, killed Attila at some point earlier in the Campaign. He died in battle, pincered between Cataphracts and Immortals. Was some good shit.

 

[Hypnos]

. . . Do you mean. . 


"Wa'a, Gov'na?" Kinda slang? Please do. Please be like those Chimney Cleaners from Mary Poppin's. 

Unfortunately I'm not from London, so no. I don't really have too much of the accent but if you want to know what I grew up hearing then this is the best I could find:

Can I just say, I love the fact that for. . What was it? Two hundred-ish years, the Anglos, Saxons, Jutes, Scoti, Britons, and whatever ambiguous Celts were left. Were all ruled by French Vikings (Norsemen, technically, but they were under the French King still. Even if they didn't respect him.)


It just. . I love that idea, and I love how weird History is like that. And yeah, welll. . . I know. Weird, complicated and bad history between the two. I'm not as learned up as, probably you or Hypnos. All's I know is that England "won" in the end, but that victory amounted to constant civil disobedience in Ireland. At least in the last century (yeah, 1922. I get it. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN).


I am not 100% certain this is Galaway, the Irish friend I spoke of earlier saw a few of this person's videoes and concluded it probably was from Galaway (herself being from Cork, but living in the States). I don't understand the video, but it's hilarious. Anddd. . .Some British and French Canadian women. But having a 8+ out of 10 body also helped. A lot. 










Are, , Are you playing a game? 


xD


I'd love to, buttt. . Brother, his Asian friend, and myself (I didn't help) built my PC. And, it's great, but. . My mic doesn't work. I'd have to use my phone and the discord app.


I'd be down in general. I use Discord to do quicker RP's with my other group. So I'm on there a lot. 


@Hypnos


Also. Explain what Craic is. 

I really don't know that much about history, unfortunately the British education system may be slightly biased towards English history.


As for discord I don't think I currently own an operational microphone, even my actual phone has been a bit faulty recently so I'm afraid you wont be able to hear my beautiful voice.

 

[Mion]

Someone should make a Discord channel. We can compare accents, if nothing else.

You don't want to here my autistic slurring English-Scottish-Irish accent

 

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

You don't want to here my autistic slurring English-Scottish-Irish accent

Yes I do, you beautiful, special snowflake.

 

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

THAT CAME FROM THE ACCENT MARRYING THING! BE QUIET. It's legit like. . My fourth night not sleeping till noon. I am a bit loopy and am running on no energy.

See, also, when you said 'helped' I thought you were speaking in past tense, about something that had happened.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

You don't want to here my autistic slurring English-Scottish-Irish accent

We are definitely gonna hear it. 

See, also, when you said 'helped' I thought you were speaking in past tense, about something that had happened.

I am not 100% operational. I haven't slept in almost 24 hours, basically. Is that normal? I don't think it's normal. Maybe it is. 


I could be wrong. But I won't be making sense, I'll be rambling. 


@Hypnos


Oh. You're getting a discord and listening to us, at the very least. 

 

[TheFordee20]

Well, the history between the two wasn't quite like that, but it's a decent summary, I suppose, going off what I remember about it. I mean, I 


A Chad type? Wat. Please link me that, I love the Irish accent. Have you ever heard an accent and just thought 'I'd marry someone who spoke like that just to keep hearing that voice'? Yeah, that, for me.

Hi. How are ya?

 

[TheAncientCelt]

Hi. How are ya?

. . . I forgot we had a native Irishmen in the chat. . .


The Hell are you from, Forde?! You strike me as a very Dublin man. I'm not saying that because I know three places in Ireland, and Dublin's the biggest. Not at all. 

 

[TheFordee20]

. . . I forgot we had a native Irishmen in the chat. . .


The Hell are you from, Forde?! You strike me as a very Dublin man. I'm not saying that because I know three places in Ireland, and Dublin's the biggest. Not at all. 

You are correct anyway. I am from Dublin. Northside. Which is the side that usually is given a bit of a bad name.


But we ain't that bad.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

You are correct anyway. I am from Dublin. Northside. Which is the side that usually is given a bit of a bad name.


But we ain't that bad.

Is that the Viking side, or the English side? 


You interested in a Discord voice chat at all? Not right now of course, but some time in the future? I think you might make Fezze propose to you, if ya talk. 

 

[Mion]

@WanderingJester


Is Humphrey still available? (For marriage with Yronwood)

 

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

We are definitely gonna hear it.

Indeed we are.

I am not 100% operational. I haven't slept in almost 24 hours, basically. Is that normal? I don't think it's normal. Maybe it is. 


I could be wrong. But I won't be making sense, I'll be rambling.

Aaah, yeah, that's not normal. Although sometimes I just kinda forget that I need to sleep. But yeah, I understand.

Oh. You're getting a discord and listening to us, at the very least.

Yes.

Hi. How are ya?

Huh?

. . . I forgot we had a native Irishmen in the chat. . .


The Hell are you from, Forde?! You strike me as a very Dublin man. I'm not saying that because I know three places in Ireland, and Dublin's the biggest. Not at all. 

Oh, Fordee's Irish? You're Irish, @TheFordee14?

Is that the Viking side, or the English side? 


You interested in a Discord voice chat at all? Not right now of course, but some time in the future? I think you might make Fezze propose to you, if ya talk. 

Might nothing. I'll get the ring ready.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

So, who's the best man? Akio or Hypnos? Tough choice.


It can't be Whipit. HE IS NEVER HERE! @JustWhipIt


@Archon is also too heartless. 

 

[TheFordee20]

Is that the Viking side, or the English side? 


You interested in a Discord voice chat at all? Not right now of course, but some time in the future? I think you might make Fezze propose to you, if ya talk. 

Well. At one stage all of Dublin was the Viking 'side'. Same goes for all of Dublin being the 'English' side at one point.


The Southside is known to be a bit more posh and uppity. Their accents generally sound more British than those on The Northside.


For some reason there has been this small rivalry between the two sides forever and I honest couldn't tell you why.


Yeah sure. I'd be down for that. I could you use a nice ring, TBH.