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[TheAncientCelt]

That would be the one, he fed his own sister Queen Rhaenyra to his dragon after pretty much being absent from the war through its entirety after an injury sustained early on. He wasn't very pleasant.

Yup. His aunt, sister? The queen who never was, injured him in one of the first battles, married to the Lord of Driftmark, and paid the ultimate price for it in the end. I 'member it all a bit clearer now.


I'll have to make sure to do the same to any dragon riders in this war, when Viserys gets involved. 

 

[Hypnos]

Yup. His aunt, sister? The queen who never was, injured him in one of the first battles, married to the Lord of Driftmark, and paid the ultimate price for it in the end. I 'member it all a bit clearer now.


I'll have to make sure to do the same to any dragon riders in this war, when Viserys gets involved. 

As long as you don't kill my wife.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

As long as you don't kill my wife.

What? Me?


I would NEVER. EVER. Harm my dear Aunt and Nuncle. 

 

[TheFordee20]

Nuncle. 

Ugh. That word.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

Ugh. That word.

Did you hear? In an interview, GRRM claimed he was a Grand Uncle. And called himself Gruncle. 


Be prepared to see THAT around a lot in the next book.

 

[Hypnos]

What? Me?


I would NEVER. EVER. Harm my dear Aunt and Nuncle. 

I'm even less your uncle now than I was last time.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

I'm even less your uncle now than I was last time.

Are you my gruncle?

 

[Hypnos]

Are you my gruncle?

Nope, I only have one grandnephew and I'm pretty sure you're not Dornish.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

Nope, I only have one grandnephew and I'm pretty sure you're not Dornish.

Thank. God. 


It's like getting a blood test and the doctor coming back and saying you're Canadian. . Or Welsh, in your case. 


Just awful news. 

 

[Akio]

And who does he intend his supporters to be? (Genuine question here) I know he's currying favour with the Stormlands and some other people that we've discussed but I'm interested in what the big picture is for Aegon. There's obviously going to be a few immovable objects in terms of support and I'd love to hear what your hypothetical "Aegon wins" scenario would be.


Aegor, Aelyx, Jaehaerys, Aegon, Vaella, Rhaella, Visenya, Aerea, Daeron, Vaegon, Rhaenyra. Would be the current line of succession, with anyone after that being non Targaryen.

Well some of this will depend on which of the other kingdoms and big houses support but I can give you some hind sight


Warning for everyone not Hypnos, this will contain minor spoilers of Aegons plan, if you want it to be a complete surprise then don't read

Spoiler

First thing right off the back us Aegon would never attempt a rebellion in this fashion. But just as some of his siblings and cousins (Vaegon, Aleyxs) are supisious of what he might do he himself is also aware of some of the more complicated dynamics of the Targaryen family and knows the Targ family is not particularly united at the moment even disregarding himself.


He has learned a few things studying the dance of dragons and even the war of five kings kind of deciding the manner he plans this war. First off he is actually not planning to genocide every Targaryen in sight, the only Targaryen he truly needs dead is Aegor but instead he is more concerned in breaking their power, whether this means exiling them or making them forsake their birthright under the seven. He plans along with his rebellion to vilify Aegor through a variety of means including planning Aegons own assassination and he personally believes it would not take much effort to convince Jaehaerys to give up his claim on the throne, leaving only the now vilified Aegor and Aleyx between him and the full rule of Westeros  (he's a bit unconcerned about his sisters claims as their behind him in the order of succession and has yet to find out about the survival of the Blackfyres)


Do to certain events due to happen in the rebellion I'm almost 100 % certain he will be able to convince the Bartheons to support him, which theoretically gives him the support of the Stormlands. But beyond that he's actually not particularly focusing on the Lord paramounts. Hypnos you in particularly know what houses Aegon courted for his troops numbers that he tends to draw some support from ambitious, lower houses. To him the betrayal of Robb Stark and the split in Renly and Stannis's troops shows that the Lord paramounts power is not absolute so while he will try to get the Lord paramounts to support him he will not be to concerned if they dont, he would simply turn his attention to potentially traitorous and ambitious houses in their borders. In addition Aegon is primarily gonna be focused on defense, with scattered bold moves of attack he will personally take part in. This is to consolidate his power and claim, as he's well aware he's the youngest son and technically has a small claim.


So he plans to add legitimacy in other ways, he plans to have a powerful and we'll known dragon by the start of the war to hold his legitimacy as an heir to his father, prove himself a warrior in bold moves well focusing on defense to prove himself a warrior like Aegon and the young dragon, plans to leave the small council mostly intact to keep well known and well liked leaders in power around him to soften the chaos of his sudden asumption of leadership and actually listen to them, as well as at the same time trying to improve conditions for those under his power, both lords and commoners, to prove himself a generous and capable leader, focusing on the appearances of it all as much if not more then the battles themselves. Even in his initial assault it seems like it might be senseless slaughter but his men will have strict orders not to attack unnecessary targets simply to avoid fostering bad feelings between him and other houses as much as possible.


He also hopes to keep it from becoming a dragon slut fest by locking down the dragon pit in the first state of his rebellion in order to stop his siblings from getting away with their dragons but that's fairly unlikely on working just because this is an rp and we need it to be somewhat balanced and interesting.


But essentially his victory plan is to maintain the support of the people and remain on defense, allowing others to chip away at their strength while keeping himself relitivily secure and working quietly to get support of other houses of those perhaps ambitious and wanting and perhaps even more importantly the common people before pushing his claim to rule by forcefully subjecting his enemies in the other kingdoms, perhaps leaving him on top at the end, or at least having given him a good opportunity to get there. That essentially encompasses his current plan over all

 

[TheFordee20]

Well some of this will depend on which of the other kingdoms and big houses support but I can give you some hind sight


Warning for everyone not Hypnos, this will contain minor spoilers of Aegons plan, if you want it to be a complete surprise then don't read



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First thing right off the back us Aegon would never attempt a rebellion in this fashion. But just as some of his siblings and cousins (Vaegon, Aleyxs) are supisious of what he might do he himself is also aware of some of the more complicated dynamics of the Targaryen family and knows the Targ family is not particularly united at the moment even disregarding himself.


He has learned a few things studying the dance of dragons and even the war of five kings kind of deciding the manner he plans this war. First off he is actually not planning to genocide every Targaryen in sight, the only Targaryen he truly needs dead is Aegor but instead he is more concerned in breaking their power, whether this means exiling them or making them forsake their birthright under the seven. He plans along with his rebellion to vilify Aegor through a variety of means including planning Aegons own assassination and he personally believes it would not take much effort to convince Jaehaerys to give up his claim on the throne, leaving only the now vilified Aegor and Aleyx between him and the full rule of Westeros  (he's a bit unconcerned about his sisters claims as their behind him in the order of succession and has yet to find out about the survival of the Blackfyres)


Do to certain events due to happen in the rebellion I'm almost 100 % certain he will be able to convince the Bartheons to support him, which theoretically gives him the support of the Stormlands. But beyond that he's actually not particularly focusing on the Lord paramounts. Hypnos you in particularly know what houses Aegon courted for his troops numbers that he tends to draw some support from ambitious, lower houses. To him the betrayal of Robb Stark and the split in Renly and Stannis's troops shows that the Lord paramounts power is not absolute so while he will try to get the Lord paramounts to support him he will not be to concerned if they dont, he would simply turn his attention to potentially traitorous and ambitious houses in their borders. In addition Aegon is primarily gonna be focused on defense, with scattered bold moves of attack he will personally take part in. This is to consolidate his power and claim, as he's well aware he's the youngest son and technically has a small claim.


So he plans to add legitimacy in other ways, he plans to have a powerful and we'll known dragon by the start of the war to hold his legitimacy as an heir to his father, prove himself a warrior in bold moves well focusing on defense to prove himself a warrior like Aegon and the young dragon, plans to leave the small council mostly intact to keep well known and well liked leaders in power around him to soften the chaos of his sudden asumption of leadership and actually listen to them, as well as at the same time trying to improve conditions for those under his power, both lords and commoners, to prove himself a generous and capable leader, focusing on the appearances of it all as much if not more then the battles themselves. Even in his initial assault it seems like it might be senseless slaughter but his men will have strict orders not to attack unnecessary targets simply to avoid fostering bad feelings between him and other houses as much as possible.


He also hopes to keep it from becoming a dragon slut fest by locking down the dragon pit in the first state of his rebellion in order to stop his siblings from getting away with their dragons but that's fairly unlikely on working just because this is an rp and we need it to be somewhat balanced and interesting.


But essentially his victory plan is to maintain the support of the people and remain on defense, allowing others to chip away at their strength while keeping himself relitivily secure and working quietly to get support of other houses of those perhaps ambitious and wanting and perhaps even more importantly the common people before pushing his claim to rule by forcefully subjecting his enemies in the other kingdoms, perhaps leaving him on top at the end, or at least having given him a good opportunity to get there. That essentially encompasses his current plan over all

OH GOD


SHOULD I READ IT?


SHOULD I NOT READ IT!?


OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD

 

[Akio]

OH GOD


SHOULD I READ IT?


SHOULD I NOT READ IT!?


OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD

It won't contain any big spoilers of how his plan will be pulled off, just give you clues into his overall thinking and some hints into some of the actions he plans during the first move and how it connects to his overall war plan. Nothing big should be spoiled in there but @Hypnos could probably tell you if there's any red flags

 

[TheAncientCelt]

Good plan Aegon. Very good plan.


Need some ally across the Narrow Sea? Viserys would love to fund and work alongside the male Targaryen with the worst odds of being king. 

 

[Hypnos]

Well some of this will depend on which of the other kingdoms and big houses support but I can give you some hind sight


Warning for everyone not Hypnos, this will contain minor spoilers of Aegons plan, if you want it to be a complete surprise then don't read

Spoiler

First thing right off the back us Aegon would never attempt a rebellion in this fashion. But just as some of his siblings and cousins (Vaegon, Aleyxs) are supisious of what he might do he himself is also aware of some of the more complicated dynamics of the Targaryen family and knows the Targ family is not particularly united at the moment even disregarding himself.


He has learned a few things studying the dance of dragons and even the war of five kings kind of deciding the manner he plans this war. First off he is actually not planning to genocide every Targaryen in sight, the only Targaryen he truly needs dead is Aegor but instead he is more concerned in breaking their power, whether this means exiling them or making them forsake their birthright under the seven. He plans along with his rebellion to vilify Aegor through a variety of means including planning Aegons own assassination and he personally believes it would not take much effort to convince Jaehaerys to give up his claim on the throne, leaving only the now vilified Aegor and Aleyx between him and the full rule of Westeros  (he's a bit unconcerned about his sisters claims as their behind him in the order of succession and has yet to find out about the survival of the Blackfyres)


Do to certain events due to happen in the rebellion I'm almost 100 % certain he will be able to convince the Bartheons to support him, which theoretically gives him the support of the Stormlands. But beyond that he's actually not particularly focusing on the Lord paramounts. Hypnos you in particularly know what houses Aegon courted for his troops numbers that he tends to draw some support from ambitious, lower houses. To him the betrayal of Robb Stark and the split in Renly and Stannis's troops shows that the Lord paramounts power is not absolute so while he will try to get the Lord paramounts to support him he will not be to concerned if they dont, he would simply turn his attention to potentially traitorous and ambitious houses in their borders. In addition Aegon is primarily gonna be focused on defense, with scattered bold moves of attack he will personally take part in. This is to consolidate his power and claim, as he's well aware he's the youngest son and technically has a small claim.


So he plans to add legitimacy in other ways, he plans to have a powerful and we'll known dragon by the start of the war to hold his legitimacy as an heir to his father, prove himself a warrior in bold moves well focusing on defense to prove himself a warrior like Aegon and the young dragon, plans to leave the small council mostly intact to keep well known and well liked leaders in power around him to soften the chaos of his sudden asumption of leadership and actually listen to them, as well as at the same time trying to improve conditions for those under his power, both lords and commoners, to prove himself a generous and capable leader, focusing on the appearances of it all as much if not more then the battles themselves. Even in his initial assault it seems like it might be senseless slaughter but his men will have strict orders not to attack unnecessary targets simply to avoid fostering bad feelings between him and other houses as much as possible.


He also hopes to keep it from becoming a dragon slut fest by locking down the dragon pit in the first state of his rebellion in order to stop his siblings from getting away with their dragons but that's fairly unlikely on working just because this is an rp and we need it to be somewhat balanced and interesting.


But essentially his victory plan is to maintain the support of the people and remain on defense, allowing others to chip away at their strength while keeping himself relitivily secure and working quietly to get support of other houses of those perhaps ambitious and wanting and perhaps even more importantly the common people before pushing his claim to rule by forcefully subjecting his enemies in the other kingdoms, perhaps leaving him on top at the end, or at least having given him a good opportunity to get there. That essentially encompasses his current plan over all

I appreciate the thought you've put into it, it will be interesting to see it play out at the very least.

 

[Akio]

Good plan Aegon. Very good plan.


Need some ally across the Narrow Sea? Viserys would love to fund and work alongside the male Targaryen with the worst odds of being king. 

I'm honestly not sure what Aegon will think of Viserys, especially if he strides around as a Blackfyre. Aegons an student of history and he has not forgotten their own involvement in house Targaryen troubles. It would depend on what he though he could offer and perhaps what some of his advisors say

I appreciate the thought you've put into it, it will be interesting to see it play out at the very least.

I like complex characters and while Aegon is a child I knew from the start he wasn't gonna be a stupid throw away character like Viserys, I wanted to give him a decent chance to take the throne and if he didn't get it he was gonna create chaos and start this war with a bang.


Now just because his plan is well reasoned doesn't mean it will be perfectly followed. To put it simply in many ways Aegon is still a cruel and unrelenting monster. His personal life will be much more dark then his public assamble and it's quite possible to decrease others trust in their lord paramounts or who their supporting he will go out of his way to create horrific tradegies that would make the mountain blush in order to break his opponents. Fear after all is a weapon as well

 

[Hypnos]

I'm honestly not sure what Aegon will think of Viserys, especially if he strides around as a Blackfyre. Aegons an student of history and he has not forgotten their own involvement in house Targaryen troubles. It would depend on what he though he could offer and perhaps what some of his advisors say


I like complex characters and while Aegon is a child I knew from the start he wasn't gonna be a stupid throw away character like Viserys, I wanted to give him a decent chance to take the throne and if he didn't get it he was gonna create chaos and start this war with a bang.


Now just because his plan is well reasoned doesn't mean it will be perfectly followed. To put it simply in many ways Aegon is still a cruel and unrelenting monster. His personal life will be much more dark then his public assamble and it's quite possible to decrease others trust in their lord paramounts or who their supporting he will go out of his way to create horrific tradegies that would make the mountain blush in order to break his opponents. Fear after all is a weapon as well

It's a shame, after you put in all of this effort that I'm going to have to ensure that none of it ever comes to pass.

 

[Akio]

It's a shame, after you put in all of this effort that I'm going to have to ensure that none of it ever comes to pass.

Good luck with that, even you said it would be very hard for you to counter what Aegon plans to do right now, I hope you can come up with a plan to counter in two rp days


Besides I'm very determined to start this war early for the good of the rp

 

[TheFordee20]

Good luck with that, even you said it would be very hard for you to counter what Aegon plans to do right now, I hope you can come up with a plan to counter in two rp days


Besides I'm very determined to start this war early for the good of the rp

YAAAAAS

 

[Hypnos]

Good luck with that, even you said it would be very hard for you to counter what Aegon plans to do right now, I hope you can come up with a plan to counter in two rp days


Besides I'm very determined to start this war early for the good of the rp

I meant that it's hard to plan counter measures whilst knowing your plans so that I don't unwittingly meta game, because given my current knowledge I could kick Aegon's ass.

 

[Akio]

I meant that it's hard to plan counter measures whilst knowing your plans so that I don't unwittingly meta game, because given my current knowledge I could kick Aegon's ass.

Well ya given you know not just an overview but littarly everything you could call the entire city watch down on his supporters and send the kingsguard after Aegon

 

[Hypnos]

Well ya given you know not just an overview but littarly everything you could call the entire city watch down on his supporters and send the kingsguard after Aegon

And since that would "cheating" or "unfair" I have to tread carefully.

 

[Akio]

And since that would "cheating" or "unfair" I have to tread carefully.

Yeah that is true, even so not many have much reason to suspect him and of those who do almost none have concrete evidence. If you want some chance to counter I'd turn to your mistress of Whispers as I gave her permission to know a few things as I like fairness, not necessarily incriminating stuff but questioning @TheTraveller

 

[TheFordee20]

Okay! CS's ALL DONE! @Hypnos


Their might be a few mistakes here an' there, but that is probably because I am really tired right now. Anyways, I cannot wait to bring all these characters into the fold. Should be pretty fun, if I do say so myself.


Also, @Fezzes,


I'd love to play Daenerys- but writing out those character sheets I realised these characters are more than enough to keep me going. So I might have to pass on the offer to play Dany. However, I play Daeron's daughter anyway so we'll role play nonetheless! 

 

[Mion]

Looks like I once more managed to spend all day looking at empty Character Sheets and get nothing done.  Not even the appearances.

 

[JustWhipIt]

Well some of this will depend on which of the other kingdoms and big houses support but I can give you some hind sight


Warning for everyone not Hypnos, this will contain minor spoilers of Aegons plan, if you want it to be a complete surprise then don't read

Spoiler

First thing right off the back us Aegon would never attempt a rebellion in this fashion. But just as some of his siblings and cousins (Vaegon, Aleyxs) are supisious of what he might do he himself is also aware of some of the more complicated dynamics of the Targaryen family and knows the Targ family is not particularly united at the moment even disregarding himself.


He has learned a few things studying the dance of dragons and even the war of five kings kind of deciding the manner he plans this war. First off he is actually not planning to genocide every Targaryen in sight, the only Targaryen he truly needs dead is Aegor but instead he is more concerned in breaking their power, whether this means exiling them or making them forsake their birthright under the seven. He plans along with his rebellion to vilify Aegor through a variety of means including planning Aegons own assassination and he personally believes it would not take much effort to convince Jaehaerys to give up his claim on the throne, leaving only the now vilified Aegor and Aleyx between him and the full rule of Westeros  (he's a bit unconcerned about his sisters claims as their behind him in the order of succession and has yet to find out about the survival of the Blackfyres)


Do to certain events due to happen in the rebellion I'm almost 100 % certain he will be able to convince the Bartheons to support him, which theoretically gives him the support of the Stormlands. But beyond that he's actually not particularly focusing on the Lord paramounts. Hypnos you in particularly know what houses Aegon courted for his troops numbers that he tends to draw some support from ambitious, lower houses. To him the betrayal of Robb Stark and the split in Renly and Stannis's troops shows that the Lord paramounts power is not absolute so while he will try to get the Lord paramounts to support him he will not be to concerned if they dont, he would simply turn his attention to potentially traitorous and ambitious houses in their borders. In addition Aegon is primarily gonna be focused on defense, with scattered bold moves of attack he will personally take part in. This is to consolidate his power and claim, as he's well aware he's the youngest son and technically has a small claim.


So he plans to add legitimacy in other ways, he plans to have a powerful and we'll known dragon by the start of the war to hold his legitimacy as an heir to his father, prove himself a warrior in bold moves well focusing on defense to prove himself a warrior like Aegon and the young dragon, plans to leave the small council mostly intact to keep well known and well liked leaders in power around him to soften the chaos of his sudden asumption of leadership and actually listen to them, as well as at the same time trying to improve conditions for those under his power, both lords and commoners, to prove himself a generous and capable leader, focusing on the appearances of it all as much if not more then the battles themselves. Even in his initial assault it seems like it might be senseless slaughter but his men will have strict orders not to attack unnecessary targets simply to avoid fostering bad feelings between him and other houses as much as possible.


He also hopes to keep it from becoming a dragon slut fest by locking down the dragon pit in the first state of his rebellion in order to stop his siblings from getting away with their dragons but that's fairly unlikely on working just because this is an rp and we need it to be somewhat balanced and interesting.


But essentially his victory plan is to maintain the support of the people and remain on defense, allowing others to chip away at their strength while keeping himself relitivily secure and working quietly to get support of other houses of those perhaps ambitious and wanting and perhaps even more importantly the common people before pushing his claim to rule by forcefully subjecting his enemies in the other kingdoms, perhaps leaving him on top at the end, or at least having given him a good opportunity to get there. That essentially encompasses his current plan over all

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