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Spears are less effective than swords in combat, peasants use spears because they are cheaper. Poison is cowardly, much like Dorne. The Lannisters couldn't have killed Oberyn without openly declaring war on Dorne itself.


Bring a small dragon in to battle and I'll gut it like a fish.


She does have a dragon by the way...

The Kingsguard and Lannisters soldiers both used spears against Ned Stark in season 1 so it's not just peasants. Also the Bolton forces used spears against Jon Snow's forces aftee cornering them. 


Look at all the good poison has done as well, it got rid of Jeoffery Lannister. If Oberyn confirmed that the Lannisters did have his sister killed it would have been the same result. Their aim was to bring Dorne into the fold which failed either way at that moment. 
 
And that is why he wants to court her. She's manipulable in his eyes, and having the strength of Storm's End, a mighty warlike people, and the Vale, the only area of Westeros that wasn't very affected by the war, is nothing to scoff at


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The Kingsguard and Lannisters soldiers both used spears against Ned Stark in season 1 so it's not just peasants. Also the Bolton forces used spears against Jon Snow's forces aftee cornering them. 


Look at all the good poison has done as well, it got rid of Jeoffery Lannister. If Oberyn confirmed that the Lannisters did have his sister killed it would have been the same result. Their aim was to bring Dorne into the fold which failed either way at that moment. 

Id say the Bolton used something more along the lines of a pike.
 
The Kingsguard and Lannisters soldiers both used spears against Ned Stark in season 1 so it's not just peasants. Also the Bolton forces used spears against Jon Snow's forces aftee cornering them. 


Look at all the good poison has done as well, it got rid of Jeoffery Lannister. If Oberyn confirmed that the Lannisters did have his sister killed it would have been the same result. Their aim was to bring Dorne into the fold which failed either way at that moment. 

Can't remember any instance of the Kingsguard using spears but the Lannister and Bolton guards a, use Pikes and b,  are technically peasants, since they are not of high birth, they're lowborn soldiors.


Poison is a weapon of cowards.
 
I still need to decide what children Daeron has and how many. Shit, I need to get on that. But I'm going away, so not for a while. And I assume I'll be playing his sisterwife and children, unless someone else wants to share the burden.

Rhaegaer fought off rebels in 335 AC, Won the war of the two daughters in 341 Ac and died in his expansion campaign a year later.

Woah, what was this? How much shit have I missed? I could have sworn I was up to date.
 
Rhaegaer fought off rebels in 335 AC, Won the war of the two daughters in 341 Ac and died in his expansion campaign a year later.

Could the Greyjoys have a large part in some victories?  Vickons father's was a Greenland sympathiser and Vickon carried out this through his rule albeit a charade.  
 
I still need to decide what children Daeron has and how many. Shit, I need to get on that. But I'm going away, so not for a while. And I assume I'll be playing his sisterwife and children, unless someone else wants to share the burden.


Woah, what was this? How much shit have I missed? I could have sworn I was up to date.

Well if you want to be nice and have them fit on the family tree then he'll have two.


King Rhaegar was Daenerys' son and the current King's father, he died in battle thirty years before the RP began. I wrote a bit of lore about his life here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14ODfa0OZVHG9AEI_sJqrArJN2zQazB64xex0cczhMUQ/edit?usp=sharing

Could the Greyjoys have a large part in some victories?  Vickons father's was a Greenland sympathiser and Vickon carried out this through his rule albeit a charade.  

The stepstones war was mostly naval so it would make sense for the II to be involved.
 
And that is why he wants to court her. She's manipulable in his eyes, and having the strength of Storm's End, a mighty warlike people, and the Vale, the only area of Westeros that wasn't very affected by the war, is nothing to scoff at


@ailurophile

intriguing. c;


okay, kitten is finally asleep so he won't be pawing the screen anymore. time to work on characters.
 
Id say the Bolton used something more along the lines of a pike.

If we talking about pikes according to Jeoffery peasants use Pikes. From his line "peasants who've never held pikes in their lives" which he said to his mother. 

Can't remember any instance of the Kingsguard using spears but the Lannister and Bolton guards a, use Pikes and b,  are technically peasants, since they are not of high birth, they're lowborn soldiors.


Poison is a weapon of cowards.



Either way spears aren't meant to used at the same range as swords which is why many armies and best example the spartans carried spears and swords. Spears are mid range weapons meant to keep opponents at a distance. 


Does that make the Tyrells cowards for using poison, poison use under the right circumstances is justifiable. The same could be said about use of wildfire is cowardly tactic  I'd say its just a way of getting the job done like poison. 
 
If we talking about pikes according to Jeoffery peasants use Pikes. From his line "peasants who've never held pikes in their lives" which he said to his mother. 


Either way spears aren't meant to used at the same range as swords which is why many armies and best example the spartans carried spears and swords. Spears are mid range weapons meant to keep opponents at a distance. 


Does that make the Tyrells cowards for using poison, poison use under the right circumstances is justifiable. The same could be said about use of wildfire is cowardly tactic  I'd say its just a way of getting the job done like poison. 

That's what I'm saying,Martells use of them outside of formations for such things as deuls is foolish.


Yes, I think that Olennas use of posion was cowardly, Wildfire on the other hand is no more cowardly than using any other siege weapon.
 
Wildfire on the other hand is no more cowardly than using any other siege weapon.

Really? I thought handling Wildfire meant you were either forced to do it or possessed of massive stones. Never thought of it as cowardly, although I guess it makes sense.
 
Ya, Jasper is quite the cunning. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to woo the forgotten doe and make him his mistress while married to Iverna if they courting works


@ailurophile
 
Ya, Jasper is quite the cunning. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to woo the forgotten doe and make him his mistress while married to Iverna if they courting works


@ailurophile

Why would he go to that effort and risk, when there's the unmarried Lysa Baratheon?

Wildfire isn't cowardly, that's what I said.

Looking back, I realise you were correct. I just figured you were calling siege weapons cowardly. Derp, I need sleep.
 
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That's what I'm saying,Martells use of them outside of formations for such things as deuls is foolish.


Yes, I think that Olennas use of posion was cowardly, Wildfire on the other hand is no more cowardly than using any other siege weapon.

What was Oberyn supposed to use against Clegane a sword would have been even less effective. Clegane had a sword large enough to cleave a horse in two. Also note till then Oberyn carried around a sword with him not a spear. 
 
Ya, Jasper is quite the cunning. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to woo the forgotten doe and make him his mistress while married to Iverna if they courting works


@ailurophile

jasper is going to be a tricky one.


reading through the character sheets so far, there are some really good characters. i'm so excited.
 

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