Fantasy Avarice:// The Thread That Never Should Have Been (ACCEPTING) (OOC)

[ShadowHounder]

XD I mean, based off of humanity or with human-like qualities. ... Well, it's fine, Glitch'll just die alone at high heat. :v

The counter is that perception is everything... Meaning since Cobra sees himself as just a expendable AI... He will perceive things as an machine would, not a human would.

 

[Ambiloquous]

The counter is that perception is everything... Meaning since Cobra sees himself as just a expendable AI... He will perceive things as an machine would, not a human would.

Ahhhh, I see. So although it is bright he doesn't feel or care for it? Alright.

 

[ShadowHounder]

Ahhhh, I see. So although it is bright he doesn't feel or care for it? Alright.

It's more on the lines of: if he knows he has feeling/pain sensors, he can simple just turn thoses sensors off (where as other Avatars are not aware of those mechanisms in their body and thus cannot mess with them).

 

[Ambiloquous]

It's more on the lines of: if he knows he has feeling/pain sensors, he can simple just turn thoses sensors off (where as other Avatars are not aware of those mechanisms in their body and thus cannot mess with them).

Damn? Can mess with his code, huh. Nice. :v (If only Glitch could...)

 

[ShadowHounder]

Damn? Can mess with his code, huh. Nice. :v (If only Glitch could...)

Not code. He was already programmed with this level of self awareness.

 

[Ambiloquous]

Not code. He was already programmed with this level of self awareness.

OH, damn, his creator gave him a lot of control over himself then? Wow, whatta lucky duck.

 

[ShadowHounder]

OH, damn, his creator gave him a lot of control over himself then? Wow, whatta lucky duck.

I would recommend rereading Cobra's bio... There is a lot more to his "origin" then you think XD

 

[Ambiloquous]

I would recommend rereading Cobra's bio... There is a lot more to his "origin" then you think XD

You mean awareness of his true existence...? :v Erm.

 

[Euclid Leaf]

I'm not going to claim ownership over anything here, but I helped write the last iteration of this roleplay with SniperBus .
So I'll say what I think he did with the old core ideas. From what I can tell, thus far, most avatars know that they are being watched or judged in some sort of way. The spectators are visible to the avatars, albeit in a non-intrusive way. Also, their popularity literally ties into how many abilities they may have. So Avatars who are nihilistic and self-aware like Cobra are not uncommon, I'd think. They probably choose to 'put on an act' out of fear of death. Or they are simply programmed to just think a certain way and not question it. Just how much they know of the outside world, that is on a character-to-character basis.

In Cobra's case, it would appear they know a great deal of the outside, thus why they are the way they are.

It will be fun to see how each decides to act upon learning more and more of the point of their existence.

 

[ShadowHounder]

You mean awareness of his true existence...? :v Erm.

Well... One thing I do want to get into in this RP is *why* he was designed to be this self aware... As normally such a choice would be deemed potential threatening to the public image of the company (as well as why they chose to bring him back despite no one being able to reprogram him to the soldier they wanted).

Plus, it gives Cobra a unique character arc, since it's less about getting him to think about morals (common trope for military soldiers) and more about just convincing him why he should care... Because right now he doesn't XD

 

[Ambiloquous]

I'm not going to claim ownership over anything here, but I helped write the last iteration of this roleplay with SniperBus . So I'll say what I think he did with the old core ideas. From what I can tell, thus far, most avatars know that they are being watched or judged in some sort of way. The spectators are visible to the avatars, albeit in a non-intrusive way. Also, their popularity literally ties into how many abilities they may have. So Avatars who are nihilistic and self-aware like Cobra are not uncommon, I'd think. They probably choose to 'put on an act' out of fear of death. Or they are simply programmed to just think a certain way and not question it. Whether your character is self-aware or not, that is up to you to decide if they have that level of doubt.

In Cobra's case, it would appear they just don't care either way.

Ah, yeah, I thought so. With the most Avatars are aware of something, at least. I just didn't know if that was implicit or explicit or not at all there and I was getting something wrong. :v But thanks, that cleared up some thoughts.

 

[ShadowHounder]

I'm not going to claim ownership over anything here, but I helped write the last iteration of this roleplay with SniperBus . So I'll say what I think he did with the old core ideas. From what I can tell, thus far, most avatars know that they are being watched or judged in some sort of way. The spectators are visible to the avatars, albeit in a non-intrusive way. Also, their popularity literally ties into how many abilities they may have. So Avatars who are nihilistic and self-aware like Cobra are not uncommon, I'd think. They probably choose to 'put on an act' out of fear of death. Or they are simply programmed to just think a certain way and not question it. Just how much they know of the outside world, that is on a character-to-character basis.

In Cobra's case, it would appear they just don't care either way.

Not what I mean by "self aware." Yes, they would likely know they are being watched... But I doubt many of them know their entire life up until the arena is just a lie and they were build for the sole purpose of selling their owners goods. Cobra does know... Is lack of care comes from that fact. The way he sees it, if he's just an easy to replace piece of software... Why should it matter what he is doing?

 

[Ambiloquous]

Well... One thing I do want to get into in this RP is *why* he was designed to be this self aware... As normally such a choice would be deemed potential threatening to the public image of the company (as well as why they chose to bring him back despite no one being able to reprogram him to the soldier they wanted).

Plus, it gives Cobra a unique character arc, since it's less about getting him to think about morals (common trope for military soldiers) and more about just convincing him why he should care... Because right now he doesn't XD

Ahhhhh, because he was designed to be self-aware. I see where I went wrong. :v

 

[Euclid Leaf]

Yeah. I fixed my idea on an edit.

It is not whether they know or not they are being watched, it's how much they know of the outside. Not all of them know they are just programs just for the amusement of people. Some might believe the spectators are other entities, who they also believe to be 'real'.

 

[Ambiloquous]

Yeah. I fixed my idea on an edit.

It is not whether they know or not they are being watched, it's how much they know of the outside. Not all of them know they are just programs just for the amusement of people. Some might believe the spectators are other entities, who they also believe to be 'real'.

Makes sense. :v

 

[ShadowHounder]

Yeah. I fixed my idea on an edit.

It is not whether they know or not they are being watched, it's how much they know of the outside. Not all of them know they are just programs just for the amusement of people. Some might believe the spectators are other entities, who they also believe to be 'real'.

Yep... It will be interesting to see how many of them actually believe Cobra and how many will try and deny what he knows to be the harsh truth.

 

[Euclid Leaf]

As for my character, I went with the idea that they are aware of Avatars being terminated if they don't get enough 'attention'. So they have adopted a very attention-seeking attitude, to generate as much as possible. Bad or good, it's all the same. Whether it is real or a program, that doesn't matter to them. They are living in the now, and that is all that matters. If life can be taken away in the blink of an eye, why not make the most of it? That's the philosophy I went with for Lucidity.

"It is all a dream. But why not enjoy it while it lasts?"

 

[ShadowHounder]

As for my character, I went with the idea that they are aware of Avatars being terminated if they don't get enough 'attention'. So they have adopted a very attention-seeking attitude, to generate as much as possible. Bad or good, it's all the same. Whether it is real or a program, that doesn't matter to them. They are living in the now, and that is all that matters. If life can be taken away in the blink of an eye, why not make the most of it? That's the philosophy I went with for Lucidity.

"It is all a dream. But why not enjoy it while it lasts?"

*clapping echoing in the air* good job

 

[Ambiloquous]

(Since everyone is spilling their character's existential awareness... gotta follow the trend. :v)

Hmm, Glitch is slightly different in that she doesn't realize Avatars will be terminated when they don't get enough attention, but knows there's a "reality" out there and she's only an artificial creation made of code. And after a while of no hope, she made a deal and so will do anything she has to get to that reality.

 

[Euclid Leaf]

Thank you.

Too bad, knowing all this, it doesn't make him any more bearable as a personality... > . >;

 

[ShadowHounder]

Thank you.

Too bad, knowing all this, it doesn't make him any more bearable as a personality... > . >;

Yep... Everyone has their ultimate plans and themes... And being able to express that unique story writting with others to build a grand story with is why I started RPing.

 

[Euclid Leaf]

That, and having many authors with different ideas gives a story a sort of unpredictability. For better or worse. Sometimes a story blends perfectly between writers, and sometimes, the story just becomes a disjointed mess of ideas. To me, that is both fun and frustrating. But if I didn't love it, I guess I wouldn't still be here, huh?

 

[Sludge]

Euclid Leaf
Nice piece of worldbuilding.

On my side, Two does not have a built in background. She remembers playing videogames from before, hence the gaming vocab. The audience is her substitute for friends, I guess. Probably also wants to be pat on the head for being a good avatar.

No nihilism this time, just a gal who wants to be the very best but can't.

Plus, it gives Cobra a unique character arc, since it's less about getting him to think about morals (common trope for military soldiers) and more about just convincing him why he should care... Because right now he doesn't XD

Convincing him to care about why he was designed to be self aware? I want to help but, man, but... It is hard to think of a reason why another avatar would be motivated to push Cobra there if there is no clear benefit for him.

Even if another character wants to help him, they would have no reason to because Cobra is doing quite well without caring.

 

[Euclid Leaf]

With the power of love and friendship, anything is possible. ANYTHING~

 

[ShadowHounder]

Euclid Leaf
Nice piece of worldbuilding.

On my side, Two does not have a built in background. She remembers playing videogames from before, hence the gaming vocab. The audience is her substitute for friends, I guess. Probably also wants to be pat on the head for being a good avatar.

No nihilism this time, just a gal who wants to be the very best but can't.


Convincing him to care about why he was designed to be self aware? I want to help but, man, but... It is hard to think of a reason why another avatar would be motivated to push Cobra there if there is no clear benefit for him.

So even if another character wants to help him, they would have no reason to because Cobra is doing quite well without caring.

Not to care about his self aware design... To care about the world as a whole. He's demotivated to socialize or really live a life outside of the arena because, at the end of the day, he sees his life as meaningless... Merely existing to make a company profit. He no longer cares about life or the joy it can bring (hence why he has a more emotional focused character arc, because his positive change would mean he actually starts caring about anything really (he literally could care less if he was killed... But does not believe in forcing death's hand)