Hall Kervean
Two Thousand Club
*pokes head out of foxhole*
A-ARE WE CLEAR!?
A-ARE WE CLEAR!?
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*pokes head out of foxhole*
A-ARE WE CLEAR!?
IT'SNo. They have gathered the torches, the pitchforks, and the flaming stakes. We must remain in the circle until they depart.
IT'S
THE SANIC ZAMBEEZ
Oh I've never found you on the other side of the aisle.Worse. It is a combined force of the religious zealots and the non religious zealots.
I'd rather not burn at the stake today and I trust you would rather not be crucified either. How say we call a truce?
*ducks back into foxhole*I'll crucify us all and then burn the building. Fair compromise?
BUT I WASTED AN HOUR AND A HALF OF MY EXISTENCE ON EARTH DEBATING MR. M' FEDORA NECKBEARD WHO PROBABLY WILL NEVER RETURNOh I've never found you on the other side of the aisle.
I'm just waiting for someone to counter someone else's points in a hostile fashion.
I believe that there is a Creator and that all life is special. All has been created with a purpose in mind and we create our own destiny. All religions have both good and evil teachings and it is our duty to pick the ones that are right for us.
I also believe that there are multiple lifetimes in which a soul must develop in order to fulfill its purpose.
I was raised a Christian - partly non denominational and partly in the Southern Baptist church, with some relatives following Jewish or Russian Orthodox teachings. My great grandmother is a Russian witch.
I started talking to random spirits when I was 7. Some of the more spiritually connected people around me started spreading rumors that I was demon possessed and/or a witch... mostly because I smacked Sunday School teachers so hard.
I absolutely hated the things I was being taught - that women were weaker vessels, that a man must always be dominant, and all that other bullshit. One of my aunts was a young atheist and feminist and told me how a woman deserves to be treated and that you are as strong as you choose to be. That set the foundation for what would happen a few years down the line.
When I was molested by one of my own relatives, my mom told me that it would be wrong to tell and start a scandal. . She also told me that God was okay with that and the horrible treatment I and my siblings all had to deal with because of my parents' mental issues.
I was kicked out of a church for leaving my parents' house at 18. I had been told that the church was supposed to help those in need of support, like God would have us do. These people betrayed me on such a deep level that I backed away from the entire Church for a while. After two more experiences with Christian establishments, I can say they were a waste of my life. I always get a hostile feel from them and have come to the conclusion that they only want me for my tithes.
The Church screwed me over in a way nobody else ever did. I became more suicidal than I already was and needed to talk to a cosmetology student for a while. He told me that my acceptance was my strength and those judgy people didn't deserve me.
I discovered a lot more about myself and the world after I met a young Wiccan witch. She taught me about past lives and helped me accept myself, appearance, sexuality, gender, and all. She gave me the confidence to pursue my nursing career and has become the most important person in my life.
For those who read this post or skipped to the end - I am a witch and I am spiritual and learning.
And now I like T TheRockInception for seeing peepz as I do. Respect my friend.
Reading this makes my heart heavy and sad that there are people like what you described, provided it is true of course (Some people make these things up on the internet for attention, so please, please forgive me if I am wrong and I do not want to come across as rude or arrogant, it is the last thing I want) I believe, as well as my family, my congregation and pastor, that God loves everyone no matter their skin color, their appearance, their attractions towards others, or who they are, and so much more. God has bestowed upon everyone a unique set of talents and people must use these to their best ability. While I see that you have chosen a path different than mine and most other people (and personally I do feel slightly disappointed as I feel that it takes time to find the right congregation and pastor/priest and that you did not have fortunate circumstances (again this is personal, please do not take offense and ohmygosh I have parentheses in parentheses ) ), I wish you the best of luck and hope you know that people will always care for you, whether from up above or down here on this little blue ball we call Earth.
Again, if I happen to offend your I will retract what was offensive or this reply altogether.
Can we not all just put down the pitchforks, torches and such? I would hate to see Sano, Jay, or Rachael get hurt. I like those people.
What makes these silly beliefs, exactly?It doesn't matter what the majority may or may not believe. This is coming from the bible, the historical account of events related to the religion. It's just as silly as saying we have a spiritual part of ourselves that transcends our finite bodies(soul) or that there's an eternal lake of fire(hell).
Why is one silly belief more valid than another when they come from the source of the religion?
Compared to what was prominent at the time (such as paganism), Christianity was basically the only religion that encouraged kindness and friendship towards others and the like. Yes, I do believe that you can be an atheist or agnostic and still be a nice and warm person. I also genuinely believe that, however Christianity (especially organized worship) regularly instills these values as a reminder or to make you reflect on, say, what you've done the past week or so.
What makes these silly beliefs, exactly?
Because it would be awesome if I was actually wrong. I'd love to see a flying 3 headed monster fly around in service of an all mighty creator. Just as much as I want to marry asuna. But both are just fantasy. The difference is I don't believe that if I am faithful to my Waifu, that I'll meet her after I die.What makes these silly beliefs, exactly?
The Flagellants Attempt to Repel the Black Death, 1349You have a point, I think the idea of everything exploding from a single tiny object in space and time is kind of ridiculous.
It's a matter of what you have faith in...
I'm confused. So anything that seems fantastical must be fantasy, is that what you are implying?Because it would be awesome if I was actually wrong. I'd love to see a flying 3 headed monster fly around in service of an all mighty creator. Just as much as I want to marry asuna. But both are just fantasy. The difference is I don't believe that if I am faithful to my Waifu, that I'll meet her after I die.
At the end of the day. As fantastical as these things are. Beliefs are subjective and malleable. Beliefs have no limits because they aren't based on fact. Beliefs are silly when they start reaching the realm of fantasy and are held as fact because, "muh beliefs".
Edit: I should also clarify that my silly beliefs comment also takes root in the Bible itself. I find a belief sillier than heaven or hell, when it deviates from the source cuz once again. "Muh beliefs".
Maybe we should go about this a different way. Am I wrong to say that anyone is not a fundementalist is sillier than the actual fundementalists who worship a fantasy god king?I'm confused. So anything that seems fantastical must be fantasy, is that what you are implying?
But that's where you are wrong about christianity, and many other religions if not all actual religions, as a whole. You CAN'T just believe in whatever you want. To begin with, religion is a an attempt to understand reality. Hence the comparison to science, which also is one, as is philosohy and I imagine other things. We can't just cherry pick whatever, and you can't put religion in a box that says "meaningless" or "silly" just because it is capable of changing. Because you and I and everyone else are not omniscient. If religion was immutable, and if there were not different interpretations then it WOULD be silly. Because our religious beliefs have to be actual beliefs. Have to be things we can actually understand as facts. If my experience diverges from yours, which it obvioulsy will, then naturally the things I know will differ from the things you know and therefore my filter for what can or not be believed in will be different. Which is pretty much the opposite of your accusations.Maybe we should go about this a different way. Am I wrong to say that anyone is not a fundementalist is sillier than the actual fundementalists who worship a fantasy god king?
Because this has been the source of our disagreements this whole time. I the non believer think that if you can just believe in whatever you want, that it just makes Christianity look sillier. Which is a euphemism for stupidier.
And you're asking why do I think it's silly. The answer has been there since your first rebuttal and hasn't been resolve since neither of us has changed our mind.
As long as you can deviate from the Bible and just cherry pick what you want to believe in. The religion itself is just silly.