WHAT'S THE BIG IDEA?

In terms of providing content, what I like best about Lore5 is:

  • Formatting: Submissions are in a standard format, which is enforced by the design of the system. This means that everything's easy to recognize, and easy to understand.
  • Review process: Since each submission is read by someone before it's approved, any crap gets filtered out. Moderators don't judge the content of a submission, but we do make sure it's properly spelled, punctuated, and is at least minimally decipherable.
  • Relational database front/backend: If you find something in Lore5, it's a cinch to answer ALL of the following questions:What are the pre-requisites/follow-ups?
    what do other people think about this?
    Who wrote this?
    What else did they write?
    Where can I find more submissions of this type?

...because all of the data is interlinked in an orderly fashion.


None of these are present in the Wiki. I'm sure they're all possible, but they're not actual.


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wordman said:
3) The software sucks. There is much better, free wiki software out there.    One feature missing from all of them (though the "template" feature in the MediaWiki may work) is the idea of creating a page that is just the embeded text of other pages. For example, suppose you've authored a bunch of charms and want a single page to list the text of all these charms in a continuous web page. In most wiki's, you can't do this without doing double entry. Could you do something like "include X, include Y, include Z", this would be trivial (though you'd need some way to filter the comments, another thing Media Wiki can do).
This is something that Lore 5 can't do yet either, but it would be reasonably easy to build. When this board first started, I posted at length about being able to build "custom reports" of content. See it here.
It'd be pretty easy.  Please go here:


http://bugzilla.memesis.org/


Create a new user.  No signup email will actually be sent, so I'll PM you a username/password here.  After that, start filing bugs.  "Bugs" can also include enhancement requests.


I will triage feature requests as they come in.
 
Also.  I've hit most of the workitems you detailed in your original post, with a few (like PDF output) unfinished.  One thing I haven't done is explicitly publish the code anywhere, although I own the copyright on it and it's certainly releasable.


If you want the code badly enough to do the work, either request a .tgz bundle from me, or actually set up a SourceForge project or something for it.  I will not be deploying from such a repository TO the live site, but I will reflect live-site changes back into such a repository.
 
memesis said:
I've hit most of the workitems you detailed in your original post
This I noticed. Nice work!

memesis said:
or actually set up a SourceForge project or something for it
I can certainly do this. Would it be useful for you? SourceForge requires that you specify the license under which the code will be released. That license would be binding and, as far as I can tell, would make the code on SF the "legal" version of the code, with all others (your private stash included) "derivative works". So, I'm not sure you'd want to do that. If so, what license would you use? For web source, I'd use the Apache license (which basically says do whatever you want as long as you give me credit), but you might not want to be that liberal.
 
Can't wordman use the Subversion server that I set up way back when?


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memesis said:
Is that publically readable, which is the main point of doing this?
Hmm... I don't remember. I'll tinker with it when I get home.


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In the event that the answer's "no", I can always create an account for him.


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Stillborn said:
In the event that the answer's "no", I can always create an account for him.
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If it's just wordman that wants a copy of the source, I can hook him up with a tarball.  The advantage of Subversion or SF would be that anyone could check out, at any time.
 
Looks like the lastest apache update broke the svn server anyway. I'll fix it if you think you're still going to use it.


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wordman said:
The secondary reason is that the theme used for Lore 5 is really, really fucking ugly. The themes I designed are also ugly, but at least they don't take up 30% of the page with useless garbage.
While I agree that the sidebar-style menu does waste a lot of horizontal real-estate, I don't think the theme is particularly hideous.


Not that it's my favorite either... I prefer AdInfinitum (and other light-on-dark themes), personally, but early in the site's history, if you recall, may people were adamant about having a dark-on-light theme. "sky" was the only pre-made one that was even remotely thematically appropriate for Exalted. Thus, the current default.


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Stillborn said:
Looks like the lastest apache update broke the svn server anyway. I'll fix it if you think you're still going to use it.
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Yeah, that'd be good.  Wipe out whatever's in there, I'll repopulate the tree once you let me know it's ready.
 
It seems to be working again, but my Svn Fu is weak. Test it out and let me know.


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