Experiences What's one RP trope/topic that makes you leave without discussion?

[qunqun]

hey, I've always wondered why is it that anime characters have Japanese names, are Japanese characters, but are often depicted with blue or green eyes and red and blonde hair? Like, clearly this isnt what Japanese people look like... yet this character is supposed to be Japanese???

It’s part of the character designs. Supposed to help you get an all around “feel” for the character as opposed to realism.

Basically, it’s just an artistic choice is all

 

[sevyn]

That is a lot of words. As a white European myself, I will ask you one simple question that I would like you to also answer simply, if at all possible: despite the genetic diversity Europe doubtlessly has, do you claim that you can't easily distinguish an ethnic European from, say, an ethnic Asian?

Also, I feel like we as Europeans shouldn't really speak about how 'race' as a concept is problematic for us. It has a very bad history here, but this is a US-based site, and their history is different. It has different connotations and it is a useful term for the local POC.

honestly, thank you so much for saying this. i was thinking it but i wasn’t quite sure how to phrase it, or if it was relevant to the conversation, but i completely agree with this point. it almost feels like he’s intentionally misunderstanding at this point

 

[Malphaestus]

i feel like you must be the one who misunderstands the difference between nationality and ethnicity. race, nationality and ethnicity are three different things, but they have crossover. ethnicity is defined mostly by culture, nationality is defined by where you live, and they obviously have a lot of overlap."japanese" is an ethnicity, but there are multiple other ethnic groups in japanese society - ie the ainu people. but saying "japanese" as a descriptor of ethnicity is still correct, so what exactly are you trying to get at here?

it also seems like you're really trying to dance around using the word "white," which i don't get. yeah, you're 'of germanic origin'... that means you're white, buddy.

also the standards you're talking about still don't make much sense to me. take your example complexion for instance; in many asian cultures, having a fair complexion is rooted as a symbol of high standing. in the past, wealthy people did not have to do labor in the sun like commoners did, resulting in a fair complexion, hence why it's still considered as desirable today. as i mentioned about wide eyes, it's mostly to give a brighter and more youthful appearance, not to look european. as a matter of fact, most of the ideal physical features in korea are not things that are necessarily associated with northern europeans, with the exception of double eyelids - but, again, that's common in literally every race, including asian people. a large focus in korean beauty standards is to have a slim, fresh-faced appearance, most of which are rooted in korean history, nothing to do with white people as much as you want to believe that for some reason.

when did you imply that it was uncommon?

right here. yes, korean women do go under the knife for double lid surgery, but not to look european - which wasn't even an implication, it's literally right there. you very clearly state that it's because they want to look european, when i've stated twice now that european influence has absolutely nothing to do with it.
also here. "come more naturally"? like i said, plenty of east asian people with natural double eyelids exist, and regardless, double eyelids are the single most common type of eyelid through any ethnic group.

no, i don't. i think standards of visual beauty depend on what is significant to individual cultures. once again: fair skin started as a symbol of wealth in various cultures. it's common in south korea to place emphasis on youth, you can even see this in some common trends and mannerisms such as aegyo, so the fact that their beauty standards revolve around dainty, youthful aesthetics is to be expected, where do you get the european aspect from?

you spittin rn!! especially about the fashion think. if the intent was to have a western aesthetic, would that not include fashion? korean fashion trends are hardly anything like westerners, same with japanese fashion trends- in fact, i'd say they both are far more influential on fashion trends both in their respective home nations and on western culture - like harajuku, for instance. and i definitely agree about the behavioural aspect. japan and korea do have their western influences, such as loan words i guess, but it's not like korea and japan don't have their obvious influences as well.

i'd say i see way more white people trying to look asian than i see asian people trying to look white. look into asian fishing - very common right now in western industries.

Primarily, I will ask for forgiveness. I do not know how to seperate quotes in such a fashion as you have. So you will have to continue reading my chunks of text should you seek to continue engaging with me. I will therefore continue:

To initiate, I can see that you are taking my comments out of context, disregarding the whole of my message, accumulating into nothing. Why are your making comments to statements with which I have expressed the intent behind my word? Is it because I am being unfair in how I present my words? If so, then how? Why are you making leaps and bounds out of comments I made, which do not deserve the comments you receive, as I explain them in my words which come thereafter? I cannot say that this is fair. I could do the same, and make an incomprehensibly large collage of misrepresentation of every sentence you've uttered, but that is not fair. I would, at least, request my words to be addressed to in the way that I addressed them.

But as you make such a wide array of claims, I have to write as I have to address them all fairly. And therefore, I will resume.

In continuation, I am misunderstanding nothing of the sort (in regard to the difference between nationality and ethnicity). I implicitly stated the difference therein, that whilst some groupings (nations) of people may contain a majority of a particular ethnic group, but that is not all there is to a nation or people. The previous statements should feel familiar, as I hope you remembered what I said, and what you dismissed, in my comments prior.

I am, indeed, avoiding to use the term "white," as I said I did not like the term. Why is this an issue? I made explicit mention of why I believed it was an unfair remark, which held little meaning, if any. I wished I was capable of avoiding the term altogether, but to my dismay I am human. How people speak, will influence how I do. I seek to rise above my limitations, but that is not yet possible. You should be well acquainted with why I do not pursue the usage of "race" with much regard, considering that eugenics should be no foreign concept to you. I cannot understand why you made a comment as to that matter. The fact that you made a comment, has meaning in and of itself, after all. I am "white," but so are many other people who look very different from me. I cannot grasp the purpose of such a statement.

In regards to what you said next, whilst I acknowledge the basis in what you said, in particular your regards to complexion, I see no reason as for why this is in any way relevant? There is logic as to why people think as they do, this is obvious. Even still, this does not disalign from the fact that northern europeans (in this instance) retain these qualities, at least as per stereotype. And, the "european" stereotype at large does as well, regardless of it's basis in fact (since reality appears to not matter much, in regads to what people think). But regardless, we also have records that people did not participate in (to anywhere as large an extent), in this instance, double-eyelid surgery until, in this example, Americans occupied South Korea, regardless of the expertise required for such a procedure existing. It's not like surgery is in and of itself a european invention, after all (far from it). I was also told recently, by someone who lives in Korea, that what I said had basis, as it regards to Korea (which is the prevailing subject of our discourse at present). Regardless, my citated surgical source goes in-depth in the Korean beauty customs (modern) through the perspective of a surgeon, as he experienced the development (prior to 1964). I believe this should be a valuable resource to learn from, and take note of. After all, a source is only valuable if it comes from an authority. This is not to confuse myself for an authority, naturally, as I am merely performing communication over the internet with the knowledge at my disposal (as opposed to writing a publishable article (which is incredibly difficult to do)). People will state why they undergo a procedure, additionally, if requested (such as for a study). This is as good a source as can be acquired, I see no reason as for why you are dismissing it so forthrightly.

I made express mention of being aware of the Korean beauty standard, having said that, being slim is everyone's beauty standard. A miraculous mixture of muscle and perfected proportions. But that is obvious to all of us, since we both seem to be vehemently aware of, in this particular case, what Korean standards are. So...?

To carry on, I never said it was "uncommon." Which is precisely my point. You wrote: "for one thing, it seems like you must not meet many asian people, we don't all have almond shaped monolid eyes, contrary to popular belief; i have many relatives from the japanese side of my family whose eyes are naturally much more round, and / or who have double lids. it's not as uncommon as you seem to think... ?" Which, not only, implies a lot of what I said from nothing, but also states that I seem to have stated that they were uncommon. Which I did not. Why did you say this, then, if you will then return to making claims that I never made mention of commonality? Now, if you are making the claim that koreans and japanese individuals have no apparent need to undergo double-eyelid surgery, than we both know this is untrue, as they undergo this procedure in majority amounts. More people in asia undergo this practice than anywhere else in the world, after all. But, obviously, I am frankly very confused by this one in particular. Illucidate me.

Onwards; you now state that double eyelid correctional surgery has nothing to do with looking european, but you must acknowledge, if you have any awareness in the matter at hand itself, that this practice was nowhere near as popular as it presently is before european occupation of the two aforementioned countries. I hope, in the very least, you can acknowledge this matter. If you cannot, then at least pursue the topic at some depth. As opposed to dismissing it. Our modern standards of beauty are rooted in yester-years events, after all.

Your reference to my statements as to the "naturality" of the lack of double eyelid is disingenuous, if I were to be so frank. When speaking, we refer to the matter which is relevant to the discussion which within the act of "speaking" is contained. This can be anything from "any matter of things" to a "focused topic." In this instance, we are referring to korean beauty standards, and most particularly, the double-eyelid surgery. I will reiterate: more asians undergo this surgical procedure than elsewhere in the world. Korean make up for a large array of these numbers (Japanese, as well); "more naturally."

In continuation, as I have numerously stated, I acquired this perspective by taking purview of numerous sources with experience of the topic, and personal belief to connect the dots. That is not to say all of this is up to personal debate, it definitely is not, but as I have tried to reiterate, and make obvious, there is an obvious correlation between Korean, and overall Asian Blepharoplasty, and western presence within the territories themselves. Further reinforcing the stereotype of "European beauty (not just Northern European)." I am unsure of what I have done wrong for you to misrepresent what I have said in such an exaggerated manner, and I truly mean no disrespect when I say this. Regardless, it is not 'strange coincidence' that trends, regardless of where they are, center around european ideals. The continent literally 'colonized' the entire globe. I cannot comprehend why there is a need for arguments.

That is a lot of words. As a white European myself, I will ask you one simple question that I would like you to also answer simply, if at all possible: despite the genetic diversity Europe doubtlessly has, do you claim that you can't easily distinguish an ethnic European from, say, an ethnic Asian?

Also, I feel like we as Europeans shouldn't really speak about how 'race' as a concept is problematic for us. It has a very bad history here, but this is a US-based site, and their history is different. It has different connotations and it is a useful term for the local POC.

I write as much as I feel is necessary to convey the intent of what I am saying. If someone does not read the whole of my message, I hope they do not read it at all. There is no reason for why someone should read partialy, misrepresent and enflame, and then let loose the hounds on some abstract entity which does not exist, after all. Regardless, that is wholly unnecessary of me to say, but it conveys the whole of what my doctrine is, when it comes to writing.

An "ethnic European" means nothing, there are groupings of europeans which migrated into europe since before the modern age, all of whom look, to a greater or lesser extent, asian. Some look "European" and some look "Asian." This is why the term is pointless, it makes drastic generalizations regardless of history. I hope you can appreciate what I just said, I truly do. But, I will humour the intent of your whole comment, and comply: naturally, I can distinguish the "European" stereotype from the "Asian," but that means nothing. The European stereotype does not include any Europeans, in fact it disparages almost all of them, in favour of an amalgamate identity. So is the case for the "Asian" stereotype, whereas most of the focus is placed on the eyes. I am not in grade-school, this is all obvious. Most people look people in the eye, and evaluate their character from the eye-outwards, when interacting with them face-to-face. Regardless, I feel the need to address your following statement:

For some reason Europeans should not speak as to how 'race' as a concept is problematic to us. This is hoppycock. Why should anyone be censored for their perspective for any individual thing? Dialogue is the epitome of life, if people cannot express their belief as to any given concept, then civilization itself is lost to all of us. Regardless, I made explicitly clear why I believed 'race' as a concept is useless, and before this post I never made explicit mention as to the eugenics matter. Eugenics, by the way, is in no way unique to Europe. I hope none of you lived under such an assumption; the dark past of all nations is dark indeed, US included.

I will now return to that comment regarding the US, in particular. I will not make mention of the US' own forray into eugenics (all of which is easily accessible, as is anything I've said previously (it's not like I came from Mars with alien ideas)). But, I will make menton of the fact that the internet is the domain of no one culture. The fact that people need to submit before American culture is, in and of itself, ridiculous. It goes against the principle of the free internet itself. A place for all peoples of all kinds to interact, subservient to no unwritten rule, and no invisible master. Be courteous, but do not be silly; eugenics is everyone's poor ancestry, some ignore it, and others detest it rightfully. Speak consciously.

honestly, thank you so much for saying this. i was thinking it but i wasn’t quite sure how to phrase it, or if it was relevant to the conversation, but i completely agree with this point. it almost feels like he’s intentionally misunderstanding at this point

Truly, I hope you are self-aware of how you, yourself, appear before me. I am not one to insult others, but I am not particularly pleased with how I perceive you to have misinterpreted my every word.

The 'magic sword' trope is an abomination. Be more original.

 

[Jannah]

To initiate, there are many ethnicities within Europe beyond "white people," whatever "white people" actually are. The same can be said of any ethnic debate, in any place. But for Europe in particular, it is an impossibly rich ethnic ancestral hodge of diversity contained within a very small landmass as a result of millennia of migratory peoples and histories of settlements and diasporas as caused by kingdoms, empires, or natural disasters, not to mention wars or national strife.

And whilst I never stated that wide eyes were an exclusivity to anyone, it is fact that they come more naturally to western ethnic groups. And, it is also factual that "europeans" are viewed, aesthetically, very highly for their beauty by Koreans and Japanese. I have my own personal ideas for why this is, mostly rooted in the post-war reconstruction process sans the second world war, where western powers rebuilt and occupied Japan and Korea, whilst making them 'westernized' in how they operated. Lest we forget that Japan had, until the Post War-era, been a military dictatorship under the rule of an emperor as advised by stratocratic administrators. Now, this is not relevant to the discussion in regards to beauty standards, but it is me explaining my thought process.

Naturally, I would not assume you were insulting me, but I fail to see how this could be a case of eurocentrism. Naturally, I have lived most of my days in Europe, but I have travelled far and wide, seen how people interacted with me, and heard comments in regards to asiatic opinions upon beauty standards, and how most of their metrics commonly associate with European aesthetics. Now, I cannot ignore the possibility that it may be related to the fact that I am, myself, of germanic origin, and european. I have heard that many Japanese, in particularly, are rather conflict averse in public social interactions, but I have also heard enough in regards as to their fascination with the west. It is not, exactly, hidden from the public eye. Exotic fascination, perhaps not dissimilar from how I would like to have a pet tiger, regardless of how unfeasible it may be.

In regards to how you perceive the practice, I would recommend you to read Ralph Millard Junior's "The Oriental Eyelid and its Surgical Revision." I believe it could be educational, though it may be a great hassle to actually access it through institutional archives. Since they cost money.

On an unrelated note, I am not a fan of "Jokers." 'Insane' characters who know 'no reason.' People cannot do them justice, and exaggerate the conditions of insanity to ludicrousness. It always feels tame, dumb, and misplaced.

A lot of the time these racial labels are pretty meaningless anyway. I'm of European descent but to a lot of people have a distinctly Middle Eastern, specifically Turkish or Levantine, look (Turks are probably considered "white" to most people, but I don't think Arabs are). The twist? I'm actually of Slavic descent.

 

[Malphaestus]

A lot of the time these racial labels are pretty meaningless anyway. I'm of European descent but to a lot of people have a distinctly Middle Eastern, specifically Turkish or Levantine, look (Turks are probably considered "white" to most people, but I don't think Arabs are). The twist? I'm actually of Slavic descent.

I agree; people are themselves, first and foremost.

 

[Inno]

Love Triangles. Blargh. I hate them so much. There's always some fifty shades of passive character involved.

Abusive/absentee parents cause for a character to be the nasty heinous trash bucket they are and explains away their poor behavior. Come on. NO.

 

[sevyn]

Primarily, I will ask for forgiveness. I do not know how to seperate quotes in such a fashion as you have. So you will have to continue reading my chunks of text should you seek to continue engaging with me. I will therefore continue:

To initiate, I can see that you are taking my comments out of context, disregarding the whole of my message, accumulating into nothing. Why are your making comments to statements with which I have expressed the intent behind my word? Is it because I am being unfair in how I present my words? If so, then how? Why are you making leaps and bounds out of comments I made, which do not deserve the comments you receive, as I explain them in my words which come thereafter? I cannot say that this is fair. I could do the same, and make an incomprehensibly large collage of misrepresentation of every sentence you've uttered, but that is not fair. I would, at least, request my words to be addressed to in the way that I addressed them.

But as you make such a wide array of claims, I have to write as I have to address them all fairly. And therefore, I will resume.

it's probably because you present your points in such convoluted ways that your meaning gets all garbled up, though i figured that your excessively pretentious manner of speaking is your way of overcompensating for your lack of a valid point. put the thesaurus away, it's not making me take you any more seriously. you're still viewing things from the narrow scope of a white person, as in: someone who has never stood in the shoes of an asian person, someone who has never had to deal with people insisting that your culture somehow revolves around their influence with no real basis.

In regards to what you said next, whilst I acknowledge the basis in what you said, in particular your regards to complexion, I see no reason as for why this is in any way relevant? There is logic as to why people think as they do, this is obvious. Even still, this does not disalign from the fact that northern europeans (in this instance) retain these qualities, at least as per stereotype. And, the "european" stereotype at large does as well, regardless of it's basis in fact (since reality appears to not matter much, in regads to what people think). But regardless, we also have records that people did not participate in (to anywhere as large an extent), in this instance, double-eyelid surgery until, in this example, Americans occupied South Korea, regardless of the expertise required for such a procedure existing. It's not like surgery is in and of itself a european invention, after all (far from it). I was also told recently, by someone who lives in Korea, that what I said had basis, as it regards to Korea (which is the prevailing subject of our discourse at present). Regardless, my citated surgical source goes in-depth in the Korean beauty customs (modern) through the perspective of a surgeon, as he experienced the development (prior to 1964). I believe this should be a valuable resource to learn from, and take note of. After all, a source is only valuable if it comes from an authority. This is not to confuse myself for an authority, naturally, as I am merely performing communication over the internet with the knowledge at my disposal (as opposed to writing a publishable article (which is incredibly difficult to do)). People will state why they undergo a procedure, additionally, if requested (such as for a study). This is as good a source as can be acquired, I see no reason as for why you are dismissing it so forthrightly.

you're the one who brought up complexion as an example of asian people trying to look white. i explain to you what this is actually rooted in, and now it's suddenly irrelevant? strange. and i'm not sure what you mean by "northern europeans retain these qualities"... what? are you talking about fair skin? do you think just because white people tend to naturally be on the more pale side (in comparison to most ethnic groups) that asian people are trying to be like them by Also finding fair skin attractive, which i already explained is for an entirely different reason that has absolutely nothing to do with white people? is that your implication? that's your logic? according to your logic, is it safe to say that white people are trying to pass themselves off as a different race if they go and get a tan? or is it safe to say that white people are trying to be asian when they copy our makeup and fashion trends, as they so often do? your logic... it's truly something else, buddy.

now, why am i dismissing your source? i want to start by saying that i did look into it a bit, but i couldn't find much about his work outside of his cleft lip surgeries, and i'm certainly not going out of my way to acquire the book you referenced. either way, i'm dismissing it because it's heavily outdated, nearly 60 years outdated, i thought this was clear by now, especially after i've repeatedly explained the primary motivation behind double eyelid surgery today. yeah, MAYBE people used to get double eyelid surgery to look western, but that's not the case anymore, believe it or not! you will literally never hear "wow, you look so western!" or anything to that effect used as a compliment.

this entire discussion came about because you clearly can't tell the difference between anime and real life.

let's refresh! another user asked something along the lines of "why is it that anime characters who live in japan and have japanese names are often depicted with blue or green eyes and red or blonde hair, considering that this is not something that japanese people usually have?" - the question in itself ignores the fact that many anime take place in settings where bizarre hair colours are normal, that hair dye exists, and that someone of a different ethnicity could live in japan and adapt to japanese culture by having a japanese name.

that's kind of beside the point though, because your response was to suggest that real life japanese men and women utilise contact lenses and hair dye in an attempt to look more western. you specifically chose the words "common practice" and then immediately contradicted yourself by saying most probably don't. that immediately suggests a shaky argument to begin with, but let's continue: you took a question about fictional scenarios and tried to apply it to the real world in an attempt to justify your grossly inappropriate and skewed view of japanese and korean people, especially strange considering korean people had nothing to do with the initial question at all. japanese and korean culture don't have all that much overlap. shouldn't you know that, as knowledgeable as you claim to be? you with me so far, sweetheart?

I made express mention of being aware of the Korean beauty standard, having said that, being slim is everyone's beauty standard. A miraculous mixture of muscle and perfected proportions. But that is obvious to all of us, since we both seem to be vehemently aware of, in this particular case, what Korean standards are. So...?

wrong! who is everyone? body standards differ around the world. korean body standards compared to, say, romanian body standards? way different. and don't say "we both" when it's obvious that only one of us knows what she's talking about, okay?

To carry on, I never said it was "uncommon." Which is precisely my point. You wrote: "for one thing, it seems like you must not meet many asian people, we don't all have almond shaped monolid eyes, contrary to popular belief; i have many relatives from the japanese side of my family whose eyes are naturally much more round, and / or who have double lids. it's not as uncommon as you seem to think... ?" Which, not only, implies a lot of what I said from nothing, but also states that I seem to have stated that they were uncommon. Which I did not. Why did you say this, then, if you will then return to making claims that I never made mention of commonality? Now, if you are making the claim that koreans and japanese individuals have no apparent need to undergo double-eyelid surgery, than we both know this is untrue, as they undergo this procedure in majority amounts. More people in asia undergo this practice than anywhere else in the world, after all. But, obviously, I am frankly very confused by this one in particular. Illucidate me.

why not explain what you meant in the two sentences i pointed out? because they still make no sense to me. anyway, i already told you why asian people might get double eyelid surgery - which, again, is not to look western, as much as you want to believe it - but you're asking me why it's only popular in asian countries... ? because monolids are most common in east asian people. not necessarily exclusive to them, but still, you're much more likely to find an asian person with natural double eyelids than you are to find a white person with monolids.

and this doesn't contradict any of my earlier points: although monolids are most common in asian people, this doesn't mean that natural double lids aren't also common, it's just less notable because double lids are considered more normal since they're commonly found in all races, including asian people. was that not obvious? clearly double eyelid surgery wouldn't be popular in countries where almost everyone has double eyelids. natural double eyelids are especially common in china, by the way.

you know what's crazy though? blepharoplasty for cosmetic purposes is among the top 5 most common surgeries in america, in brazil and in the uk.

but more importantly, as much as you have to say, why didn't you say anything about the abundance of white people who try to look asian? i mean, just look at some of the most popular makeup trends and celebrity styles at the moment; the fox eye pose, ariana grande leaving blackfishing alone for a moment to try to mimic east asian features, or the overabundance of white people- or, so sorry, europeans- mimicking korean and japanese culture due to the popularity of kpop and anime in the west? korean fashion trends certainly influence western trends, the same applying to japanese fashion, especially regarding harajuku, not to mention japan's animation, manga, games, etc that all have more influence on american pop culture than americans have on japan.

An "ethnic European" means nothing, there are groupings of europeans which migrated into europe since before the modern age, all of whom look, to a greater or lesser extent, asian. Some look "European" and some look "Asian." This is why the term is pointless, it makes drastic generalizations regardless of history. I hope you can appreciate what I just said, I truly do. But, I will humour the intent of your whole commen, and comply: naturally, I can distinguish the "European" stereotype from the "Asian," but that means nothing. The European stereotype does not include and Europeans, in fact it disparages almost all of them, in favour of an amalgamate identity. So is the case for the "Asian" stereotype, whereas most of the focus is placed on the eyes. I am not in grade-school, this is all obvious. Most people look people in the eye, and evaluate their character from the eye-outwards, when interacting with them face-to-face. Regardless, I feel the need to address your following statement:

it's a lot of words to be saying absolutely nothing. this is giving, "i don't see colour " tbh. kinda post-racial, are you? give me a break. do you not see how this ideology is harmful? do not see that the "race doesn't matter, i'm apart of one race called the human race, i'm post-racial" bullshit is very disrespectful to people of colour who face horrible things, often on a daily basis, because of these features and attributes that you call arbitrary? how does the point fly so clearly over your head? of course you, as a white person, find it easy to view the world through such a delusional lens. and of course you can't fathom that the world shockingly does not revolve around your eurocentrism! wow, other cultures have similar ideals to mine, but for completely unrelated reasons? no way!

understand that not all of us can afford to be so blissfully ignorant, we have to stay, y'know, kind of grounded in reality. sure, it's a lovely sentiment, i'd love to believe that race is something that just doesn't matter, but unfortunately, i do live in the real world, it's not quite so simple. i don't expect a white person to fully appreciate or understand what i'm saying - and i say this only because you so obviously have no experience in what i'm talking about, your ignorance really shines through in a way that almost makes me wonder why i'm trying to explain something so complex to someone who just won't get it - but ultimately, please just know your place if you don't intend on really educating yourself, or at the very least actually listening. it's been good!

stay safe, be cool, we out.

p.s. you can reply to specific sections by highlighting the text you want to reply to, and clicking reply. not quote, i have no clue what quote does.

p.p.s. someone just brought to my attention how you absolutely refuse to say White but have no issue with saying oriental (super gross + outdated) and asiatic (just fucking say asian)??? ridiculous! go and reflect.

 

[Murdergurl]

Love Triangles. Blargh. I hate them so much. There's always some fifty shades of passive character involved.

Abusive/absentee parents cause for a character to be the nasty heinous trash bucket they are and explains away their poor behavior. Come on. NO.

ANY kind of romance theme for me, is pretty much always an instant nope

 

[nerdy tangents]

It’s part of the character designs. Supposed to help you get an all around “feel” for the character as opposed to realism.

Basically, it’s just an artistic choice is all

Also color theory is in a lot of anime. So like this color means protagonist. That color means that personality type.

You see it more in team centric shows but it’s kinda interesting.

 

[Murdergurl]

Also color theory is in a lot of anime. So like this color means protagonist. That color means that personality type.

You see it more in team centric shows but it’s kinda interesting.

Really? I had no idea that anime character tropes were so distinguished as to assign a hair color to the leading role. then again, you could fill a library with what I don't know about anime.

 

[Jannah]

ANY kind of romance theme for me, is pretty much always an instant nope

Depends for me. In group RP's I don't really like the romance stuff, but I'm a sucker for the occasional romantic 1x1. Especially if said romantic 1x1 story includes the tropes I like.

 

[Murdergurl]

Depends for me. In group RP's I don't really like the romance stuff, but I'm a sucker for the occasional romantic 1x1. Especially if said romantic 1x1 story includes the tropes I like.

The only "romance" I've done is on adult sites. But that's a horse of a different color

 

[TalesOfYore]

The only "romance" I've done is on adult sites. But that's a horse of a different color

It depends on who you are RPing with, and if it is a 'slow burn'. Currently have an RP that is about 200+ pages on Google Docs, and the characters have only just begun to realise that they have feelings for each other.

 

[Murdergurl]

It depends on who you are RPing with, and if it is a 'slow burn'. Currently have an RP that is about 200+ pages on Google Docs, and the characters have only just begun to realise that they have feelings for each other.

its just generally not a topic I enjoy. I'm more of an action and adventure with lots of death and murder and explosions kind of writer. I'm actually not very good at emotional character development in the amorous department. But that probably has a lot to do with my irl lacking in that capacity. I cant relate

 

[Jannah]

its just generally not a topic I enjoy. I'm more of an action and adventure with lots of death and murder and explosions kind of writer. I'm actually not very good at emotional character development in the amorous department. But that probably has a lot to do with my irl lacking in that capacity. I cant relate

Getting into my character's heads is definitely one of my main strengths as a writer. It's sort of why I usually favour the stories with more psychological elements.

 

[TalesOfYore]

its just generally not a topic I enjoy. I'm more of an action and adventure with lots of death and murder and explosions kind of writer. I'm actually not very good at emotional character development in the amorous department. But that probably has a lot to do with my irl lacking in that capacity. I cant relate

I mean, yeah. I also prefer quite a bit of action as well. And often do not even start a romantic RP if there is no connection between the characters. I understand the whole thing of not understanding. One cannot RP something if they do not know, or do not understand.

 

[Inno]

I understand the whole thing of not understanding. One cannot RP something if they do not know, or do not understand.

There's always research. Not that anyone here doesn't do it. But it's always good to fall back on. If you don't know, research.

 

[Murdergurl]

I mean, yeah. I also prefer quite a bit of action as well. And often do not even start a romantic RP if there is no connection between the characters. I understand the whole thing of not understanding. One cannot RP something if they do not know, or do not understand.

There's always research. Not that anyone here doesn't do it. But it's always good to fall back on. If you don't know, research.

It's not that I'm not understanding of what romance is. It's shoved down our throats in most movies or series out there in at least some regard. It's sung about, it's written about, etc. I just dont really empathize with the feeling or yearning that people seem to have for it

 

[Inno]

It's not that I'm not understanding of what romance is. It's shoved down our throats in most movies or series out there in at least some regard. It's sung about, it's written about, etc. I just dont really empathize with the feeling or yearning that people seem to have for it

Oh no I didn't mean how you feel. I was going by what Vol-Athir said. In general. Research is your best bet if you want to become more knowledgeable is what I meant.

 

[TalesOfYore]

It's not that I'm not understanding of what romance is. It's shoved down our throats in most movies or series out there in at least some regard. It's sung about, it's written about, etc. I just dont really empathize with the feeling or yearning that people seem to have for it

Oh yeah, no! Nothing against you or not wanting to do it! By all means, more power to you really! But I completely understand that you just do not empathize with the feeling.

 

[Melpomene]

Love Triangles. Blargh. I hate them so much. There's always some fifty shades of passive character involved.

Omg same.

Every single time whether it be mmf or ffm triangles they always involve either: one person being unable to take a no and constantly disrespecting a relationship for their own feeeeeeeelings and/or the person who is at the center often being so passive and incapable of putting their foot down that they are essentially leading two people on and waiting for them to duke it out over them rather than stepping in, putting their foot down, and taking some damn initiative for their own life.

 

[TalesOfYore]

Omg same.

Every single time whether it be mmf or ffm triangles they always involve either: one person being unable to take a no and constantly disrespecting a relationship for their own feeeeeeeelings and/or the person who is at the center often being so passive and incapable of putting their foot down that they are essentially leading two people on and waiting for them to duke it out over them rather than stepping in, putting their foot down, and taking some damn initiative for their own life.

-Cough- Literally almost every teen novel since Twilight and Hunger Games -Cough-

 

[Jannah]

-Cough- Literally almost every teen novel since Twilight and Hunger Games -Cough-

I love the Hunger Games except for that stupid love triangle. Could have done without it.

 

[Onmyoji]

Yikes, live triangles. They *can* be done well but more often than not they're just ridiculous.
And I find the concert hard to apply to a rp setting.

 

[Kaiju Cat]

Yeah my issue with love triangles is that more often than not characters end up ooc.