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When it comes to doubling I have a tough time doing both in the same post. The post just starts to get too long ... pages ...
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See this is what I mean by adding a post length as in for example 2 to 3 paragraph per character minimum. I believe this weeds out those kinds of people out because if they have no intention of actually doubling then they wouldn't put themselves through the post-length requirement for both characters if all they want to do is play the one.My point is this is not a post length issue. You said it yourself the person is already writing multiple paragraphs.
The problem they are only doing that for one character. So that means they only want to play that one character.
Which is why I said always start off by asking “hey can I just play the love interest?”
If they say yes. Then you know they only really want to play one character.
If they say no or if they offer up two characters on their own then you know they will give equal attention to both characters.
As the core issue is with people offering to double when they only want to write one character. Not people not making a specific post length.
See this is what I mean by adding a post length as in for example 2 to 3 paragraph per character minimum. I believe this weedthose kinds of people out because of they have no intention of actually doubling then they wouldn't put themselves through the post-length requirement for both characters if all they want to do is play the one.
Okay so let you ask you a question, how exactly is making an interest check that specifically calls for doubling beating around the bush? Is making an interest check where I am specifically asking for a partner that wants to double not within itself asking someone rather or not they want to play two characters? How is it not being direct?But you don’t have to do a post length if you just ask them “yo do you want to play two characters?”
Like in this kinda of situation your best bet is to be direct rather then beat around the bush.
I have been just straight up asking people for years and not a one of them has been offended.
Meanwhile your way of doing things is gonna get you a lot of half assed padding as the person tries to hit a word limit with a character they don’t give a shit about.
Cuz again it isn’t addressing the issue directly. It’s just making people pad their posts more
I would put in a disclaimer too. If there's going to be doubling there must be equal participation from all characters otherwise it's a no go. This is why I hate doubling. I hated it the few times I did it. This is the reason I don't do it anymore.People that half-ass it when doubling. So let me get this straight I can write about 2 to 3 paragraphs for each character, my character and the one you wanted me to play against yours, yet somehow some kind of way you consistently give me a sentence or two for the character you're supposed to be playing against mine. Do you know how disrespectful that is and how irritating to consistently watch you post multiple paragraphs for your end but I'm lucky if I can get 3 lines out of you for mine?
I'm not typically a person who puts a lot of stock in post length, because length doesn't always mean quality or substance, but I'm seriously thinking about putting post lengths back on my interest checks.
Okay so let you ask you a question, how exactly is making an interest check that specifically calls for doubling beating around the bush? Is making an interest check where I am specifically asking for a partner that wants to double not within itself asking someone rather or not they want to play two characters? How is it not being direct?
Also as I said before this doesn't happen a lot so how would me adding a post length suddenly increase the amount of which this happens? Because I'm not really understanding what you mean?
Yes, that is what I meant, I am sorry if there was any confusion on that.Okay, I see where the misunderstanding came in. Just to make sure I got it correct ;
You are talking about someone who answers your interest check to play two characters.
But they only focus on one character and ignore the other?
Ex.
You say something to the effect of “Hey I want to do two pairings. I want to play Character A and Character C. You can make Character B and Character D.”
Yes, that is what I meant, I am sorry if there was any confusion on that.
Well if I did do the post length it would probably just be asking for a paragraph which I really don't think is a lot to ask for and I'm not sure how much padding you can do for a paragraph. I just had a partner who would consistently a literal sentence each and every time no matter how much a wrote for them to respond to like if they did like 2 or more paragraphs for themselves and one for me that would be different to me personally, but a literal sentence, every single time, without fail? Then what really irritated me was when they messaged me because I forgot to respond to a joke they made in their last post when literally in that same post they completely ignored a whole segment of my character very openly messing with the other character's hands and gave me a literal sentence that didn't even answer all the questions my character had asked.No worries. I still think just focusing on the character issue over the post length is your best bet.
As people can write more words without actually saying anything of substance or being any more invested in the character.
It’s why I don’t bother with post lengths in general. If someone isn’t feeling a character making them write more doesn’t make them more into the character. It just means you get stuck reading a whole lot of padding.
I would instead look at how they act in the planning stage. Do they talk more about one character then the other? Do they seem more excited about one pairing?
Cuz chances are they have been relying on you to do a lot of the heavy lifting for the pairing they don’t care about.
So just take a step back and let them tell you about their characters and the things their looking forward to in the roleplay.
This better have ended with you dropping this person as a partner, I swear to God it better have. I'm not even a confrontational person like that, and this would be grounds for a good hard cursing, because essentially what they said was fuck you as far as I am concerned, this is the type of partner that clearly only cares about their own fun and essentially you are a slave solely meant to amuse them. I have had partners like this before where we agree on something, they don't follow through, and then when I say I want to leave because I am not having fun, they beg me to stay because they are having fun so essentially I should stay because you're having fun while I am miserable.Well if I did do the post length it would probably just be asking for a paragraph which I really don't think is a lot to ask for and I'm not sure how much padding you can do for a paragraph. I just had a partner who would consistently a literal sentence each and every time no matter how much a wrote for them to respond to like if they did like 2 or more paragraphs for themselves and one for me that would be different to me personally, but a literal sentence, every single time, without fail? Then what really irritated me was when they messaged me because I forgot to respond to a joke they made in their last post when literally in that same post they completely ignored a whole segment of my character very openly messing with the other character's hands and gave me a literal sentence that didn't even answer all the questions my character had asked.
Truthfully for the most part I do not care about post length, I just care about effort and getting a proper response to what I have written, I care far more about quality, substance, and fun than I do about length, but sometimes I feel like people take advantage of that like because I said I don't care about post length they can get away with putting any amount into the post even though logically speaking anyone with common sense should know this is disrespectful as hell.
I know it does but i meant like atleast picking time or day to rp on when not busyReal life always comes first.
I get it thats why i say im free most of the time unless working or morning to eveningsMaybe people can't do that. You can say that you will post on Thursdays or Fridays but God forbid if something happens that's out of your control. And that something keeps you away for weeks. Patience and understanding goes a long way.
Well if I did do the post length it would probably just be asking for a paragraph which I really don't think is a lot to ask for and I'm not sure how much padding you can do for a paragraph. I just had a partner who would consistently a literal sentence each and every time no matter how much a wrote for them to respond to like if they did like 2 or more paragraphs for themselves and one for me that would be different to me personally, but a literal sentence, every single time, without fail? Then what really irritated me was when they messaged me because I forgot to respond to a joke they made in their last post when literally in that same post they completely ignored a whole segment of my character very openly messing with the other character's hands and gave me a literal sentence that didn't even answer all the questions my character had asked.
Truthfully for the most part I do not care about post length, I just care about effort and getting a proper response to what I have written, I care far more about quality, substance, and fun than I do about length, but sometimes I feel like people take advantage of that like because I said I don't care about post length they can get away with putting any amount into the post even though logically speaking anyone with common sense should know this is disrespectful as hell.
Personally, I'm just upfront my post length depends on what I am given to work with and my inspiration if I don't have much to work with, I won't have much to say and if I'm not having fun, I won't have any inspiration, so if you're about to play games with me, you're only going to play yourself in the end.Okay let me try to put it like this ::
Let’s say you go ahead with the post length requirement.
Your partner writes four paragraphs for Character 1 and one paragraph for Character 2.
It’s still the same problem. They very clearly care more about playing Character 1 then Character 2.
And it’s not like they can’t literally just give a paragraph essentially going “Character 2 listened to what Character B was saying.”
Then you would be in the same position. They are technically giving you what you asked for but it’s still very much a case of them putting more effort into one pairing then the other.
Which is what they’re already doing without the post length. Because they aren’t taking advantage of your lack of post requirement they are taking advantage of the fact that you want two pairings.
Because they feel like that gives them the chance to write the pairing they really want without having to bother with the other pairing. It’s a problem of them only wanting to focus on their own character and not yours.
Which is something that you can solve by making them focus on two characters or just dropping them if they only focus on one.
Yeah, I think in that case they just need to learn how to speak up instead of expecting you to come up with ideas for their side on their behalf. I don't think having ideas for your side is attention hogging.idk if i've said this before, but when people expect me to do everything on my own. like, for example, if i'm doubling up with someone and i'm talking about ideas for my side, and then all of the sudden they're saying i'm being self centered or whatever, when they weren't even presenting ideas to begin with. am i hogging attention or do you just not have any ideas? i feel like it's more often the latter, cause it's always people who didn't even have any suggestions to begin with, and are evidently expecting me to plot their story for them.
agreed. and even if they just asked, i could make an effort to give some concepts for them to build off of, but i'm not just going to assume that you have nothing from the get go. often times, i do try to introduce settings where their characters could have interaction as well, such as a party or something, but that's not always gonna happen.Yeah, I think in that case they just need to learn how to speak up instead of expecting you to come up with ideas for their side on their behalf. I don't think having ideas for your side is attention hogging.
dude, same. it's especially annoying when you're trying to explain a pivotal plot point and they just come in way off beat. a while ago i was writing with this girl, and i was explaining like... some important lore behind my character - keep in mind that we'd largely focused on her character and her love interest up until then - but after i posted like... several paragraphs worth of information, she did not say a single word in acknowledgement of that. instead, she said "i can't wait for bruce to see [her character's] night shirt " ??? literally so fucking random, it completely demotivated me to ever interact with her again.I have dealt with people who, whenever I presented an idea for my side, would immediately try to twist it to make it all about their character. Like, literally, I have had several partners that if I planned anything for one of my OCs, they immediately would somehow try to shoehorn their character into the spotlight and make them center stage. Now that is being an attention hog. Being unable to have plot points without your character being the main character is attention hog. And, quite frankly, just bad for roleplay.
idk if i've said this before, but when people expect me to do everything on my own. like, for example, if i'm doubling up with someone and i'm talking about ideas for my side, and then all of the sudden they're saying i'm being self centered or whatever, when they weren't even presenting ideas to begin with. am i hogging attention or do you just not have any ideas? i feel like it's more often the latter, cause it's always people who didn't even have any suggestions to begin with, and are evidently expecting me to plot their story for them.
The love interest thing sounds like the one-side doubling. Everything is just plain selfish. Sounds like a complete and total headache to avoid.So I'll be upfront I get irritated seeing interest checks where the poster is looking for someone to do something for them that they aren't willing to do in return. I'll be honest in saying that I feel it's selfish to want a partner to do x, y and zed for you but you aren't willing to do the same for them. You want them to play a characterr or love interest for you but you aren't willing to do so for them, you want them to take an interest in your character but can't be bothered to take an interest in theirs, you say sometimes you'll get busy for long periods of time but tell them if they don't respond to you in two weeks you'll consider the rp dropped, you tell people not to just leave but then tell them that you reserve the right to leave for any reason. I mean everyone is entitled to want their type of RP but at the same time I can't help but feel like it's selfish, that being said if you find someone who is willing to put up with that, someone who is good with that then cool I guess, I just can't imagine wanting to do an RP and asking my partner for something I am not also willing to do.
TALK TO EM!!! i am literally so tired of hypocritical writers, and it's especially annoying when people message me like "i know you said you Only double when it comes to fandoms, but can you just play my love interest for me? i don't have time for doubling " smh... someone said that to me just a few days ago. if you don't have time for doubling, don't message someone who specifically does doubles... it's asshole behavior.So I'll be upfront I get irritated seeing interest checks where the poster is looking for someone to do something for them that they aren't willing to do in return. I'll be honest in saying that I feel it's selfish to want a partner to do x, y and zed for you but you aren't willing to do the same for them. You want them to play a characterr or love interest for you but you aren't willing to do so for them, you want them to take an interest in your character but can't be bothered to take an interest in theirs, you say sometimes you'll get busy for long periods of time but tell them if they don't respond to you in two weeks you'll consider the rp dropped, you tell people not to just leave but then tell them that you reserve the right to leave for any reason. I mean everyone is entitled to want their type of RP but at the same time I can't help but feel like it's selfish, that being said if you find someone who is willing to put up with that, someone who is good with that then cool I guess, I just can't imagine wanting to do an RP and asking my partner for something I am not also willing to do.