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I looked as well. All it mentions is that it was tributary and that the Empress was doing her usual machinations with their succession. So no idea, the reference is either obscure or non existent.HowlingCoyote said:Given Mnemon's deal with the Mask of Winters, I'm gonna say it wasn't her House, but I don't recall reading anywhere which House was specifically responsible for Thorns before it fell.
Yeah' date=' I'm thinking I must have imagined it. Thorns' Dynastic backing is an issue in my game, so I was trying to run it down. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem any of the books are terribly specific on where each House's satrapies are.[/quote']
Well it could be that Thorns was directly under the supervision of the Empress. I mean it was a tributary state okay, but it was one of the few and certainly not the least in the Southeast and in the Scavenger Lands.
Quiet, you.Thanqol said:The Mask of Winters is actually a Sidereal Deathlord and Thorns didn't exist until he attacked it.
Not in any of the books I have. If there is any, I'd look in CoCD: The Blessed Isle or the other direction books. I know Scavenger Lands doesn't mention any satrapies, as it doesn't cover any, but perhaps the South or West will.So I guess what I'm asking now, and I apologize if it wasn't as clear as I intended, is since there is no information regarding the Great Houses and Thorns, is there any information about what Houses hold which satrapies and where those holdings are?
I agree totally. One of the ways we get around that is to have House holdings balkanized, with little territory actually contiguous from one House to another, even if one House has 'a lot in the South' for example. That has the advantage of never conflicting with canon, and also allows the ST to use whichever House feels appropriate. But a little 'official' breakdown would be nice.It really surprises me there's so little information on the Realm's Threshold holdings. I would think disrupting/conquering the satraps would be a fairly major element in any game that has the Realm as a major antagonist...which is to say nearly all games.
If I remember correctly tribute of thresholds were directly paid to Realm and not one of the Great Houses during Empress was around. She was selecting satraps herself so it is quite possible that one cities satrap may not be same for a long period. Considering that Thorns lost their war with Lookshy before empress dissappeared and became in a civil war state, I don't think any Great House wanted their tribute.It really surprises me there's so little information on the Realm's Threshold holdings. I would think disrupting/conquering the satraps would be a fairly major element in any game that has the Realm as a major antagonist...which is to say nearly all games.