The World of Tomorrow- OOC

[Fishman Lord]

Hey in an unrelated topic I'd be down with hosting the next World Congress. Go peace!
But I think we need to wrap this meeting up soon because it seems to be drastically slowing the RP pace down.


Also @Fishman Lord and @Wickedkent should just split the islands, they're literally just snow and nothingness (it's a word) why are you two fighting over them so much it's not like they're valuable xD

It's symbolic of the unity of Canada. We don't submit to people who claim things which we already owned.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

[QUOTE="Fishman Lord]It's symbolic of the unity of Canada. We don't submit to people who claim things which we already owned.

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Boi, you either split the islands (cause i know there is no way either of you will submit) or you go to all out war and cause a huge political fracture. Which one will it be? I suggest you swallow your pride and split the land.

 

[RIPSaidCone]

[QUOTE="Fishman Lord]It's symbolic of the unity of Canada. We don't submit to people who claim things which we already owned.

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I respect that, Cascadia has the same deal with the America. We won't allow others to take that land away from us because of symbolism and unity between the people.

[QUOTE="Loyal Guardian]Boi, you either split the islands (cause i know there is no way either of you will submit) or you go to all out war and cause a huge political fracture. Which one will it be? I suggest you swallow your pride and split the land.

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It'll have to be resolved diplomatically and in a way that preserves both nations' pride as to not cause grudges in the long run, if they split the land because the world forced them too then it'll just cause conflict in the future.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

It'll have to be resolved diplomatically and in a way that preserves both nations' pride as to not cause grudges in the long run, if they split the land because the world forced them too then it'll just cause conflict in the future.

Then how else are they going to solve it? The only way is for them to convene, respectively agree to the compromise, and split the land fairly. That's the only diplomatic solution because neither of them won't give up the land. The only way for this to be settled is through compromise or war, and i prefer compromise.

 

[RIPSaidCone]

[QUOTE="Loyal Guardian]Then how else are they going to solve it? The only way is for them to convene, respectively agree to the compromise, and split the land fairly. That's the only diplomatic solution because neither of them won't give up the land. The only way for this to be settled is through compromise or war, and i prefer compromise.

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They could agree to turn the Islands over to the World Congress to become a Buffer Zone, basically the islands are governed and looked after by the World Congress Authorities or council and strict limitations are put in place to ensure that one of the two countries doesn't provoke the other or enter the buffer zone with military force or any form of government authority extension. The UN has a Buffer Zone between Cyprus and Turkey on their island IRL to prevent conflict and land grabbing.


And that was what I meant in the first place having both countries discuss it between themselves and agree with each other on a compromise rather than peer pressuring them into making up when in reality they still hate each other. It'd just be like the Korean War ceasefire when technically the fighting's stopped but both North and South Korea still despise each other and regularly cause problems between each other. That'd be the result if we forced them into making a decision rather than letting them come to it themselves. I'd say the only reason the WC should interviene is to tell the two to solve it diplomatically rather than with war.

 

[Alteras]

They could agree to turn the Islands over to the World Congress to become a Buffer Zone, basically the islands are governed and looked after by the World Congress Authorities or council and strict limitations are put in place to ensure that one of the two countries doesn't provoke the other or enter the buffer zone with military force or any form of government authority extension. The UN has a Buffer Zone between Cyprus and Turkey on their island IRL to prevent conflict and land grabbing.
And that was what I meant in the first place having both countries discuss it between themselves and agree with each other on a compromise rather than peer pressuring them into making up when in reality they still hate each other. It'd just be like the Korean War ceasefire when technically the fighting's stopped but both countries still despise each other and regularly cause problems between each other.

I would wait to see what the order empire and Poland does with Germany and use that as an example, hopefully a better version of the shanghai arrangements.

 

[RIPSaidCone]

I would wait to see what the order empire and Poland does with Germany and use that as an example, hopefully a better version of the shanghai arrangements.

I suggested that the Order Empire and Poland establish a Joint-Committee between their governments to govern Germany equally between themselves making it fair game between them. Capitalism and free market trading would allow it so that the German people themselves can decide which country and which businesses they wish to do dealing with. I hope they're happy or at least content with the idea and take it into consideration :3

 

[Space_Kaiser]

I would wait to see what the order empire and Poland does with Germany and use that as an example, hopefully a better version of the shanghai arrangements.

I think they should unite their German provinces and create a WC state, where they have heavily increased autonomy but each side (East and West) follows their respective country's laws. That's the best i can come up with as since i have recently become the new Random Event creator, Germany was actually the first one i was going to do so i would like to see this solved before i do an armed rebellion from both countries.

They could agree to turn the Islands over to the World Congress to become a Buffer Zone, basically the islands are governed and looked after by the World Congress Authorities or council and strict limitations are put in place to ensure that one of the two countries doesn't provoke the other or enter the buffer zone with military force or any form of government authority extension. The UN has a Buffer Zone between Cyprus and Turkey on their island IRL to prevent conflict and land grabbing.
And that was what I meant in the first place having both countries discuss it between themselves and agree with each other on a compromise rather than peer pressuring them into making up when in reality they still hate each other. It'd just be like the Korean War ceasefire when technically the fighting's stopped but both North and South Korea still despise each other and regularly cause problems between each other. That'd be the result if we forced them into making a decision rather than letting them come to it themselves. I'd say the only reason the WC should interviene is to tell the two to solve it diplomatically rather than with war.

And a WC Buffer Zone is a great idea, but then terrorist incidents from nationalist people from both countries will begin to happen like it did originally with Cyprus. I could also use Korea for instance, where the two countries hate the guts out of each other and they are constantly on the verge of war (especially now). The biggest border between the Kingdom of the Rockies and the Rising Empire is the maritime border with Quebec, so a WC blockade or seawall might be needed (then the Environmentalists will be like, "you ain't doin' that to the currents and fishes!").


Also i want to get this off me chest real quick, but i am a person who absolutely hates arranged marriages, so when i saw the Singaporeans basically say "sure have this women be his wife" IRL me got a little peeved. Not to mention that in the Eclipse Empire, Arranged Marriage is outlawed, so it kind of transfers over to here as well. I know its trivial and irrelevant, but that kind of thing actually is something i would fight for.

 

[Alteras]

[QUOTE="Loyal Guardian]I think they should unite their German provinces and create a WC state, where they have heavily increased autonomy but each side (East and West) follows their respective country's laws. That's the best i can come up with as since i have recently become the new Random Event creator, Germany was actually the first one i was going to do so i would like to see this solved before i do an armed rebellion from both countries.
And a WC Buffer Zone is a great idea, but then terrorist incidents from nationalist people from both countries will begin to happen like it did originally with Cyprus. I could also use Korea for instance, where the two countries hate the guts out of each other and they are constantly on the verge of war (especially now). The biggest border between the Kingdom of the Rockies and the Rising Empire is the maritime border with Quebec, so a WC blockade or seawall might be needed (then the Environmentalists will be like, "you ain't doin' that to the currents and fishes!").


Also i want to get this off me chest real quick, but i am a person who absolutely hates arranged marriages, so when i saw the Singaporeans basically say "sure have this women be his wife" IRL me got a little peeved. Not to mention that in the Eclipse Empire, Arranged Marriage is outlawed, so it kind of transfers over to here as well. I know its trivial and irrelevant, but that kind of thing actually is something i would fight for.

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Holy shit was that a while back. Coming from a Taiwanese background, arranged marriages is common in the upper middle class, with the intent of strengthening businesses and relations. In her current state, the character is just a symbolic piece, but I've made a full background for her in the event I need to pull some 11th hour diplomatic save in the Rockies.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

Holy shit was that a while back. Coming from a Taiwanese background, arranged marriages is common in the upper middle class, with the intent of strengthening businesses and relations. In her current state, the character is just a symbolic piece, but I've made a full background for her in the event I need to pull some 11th hour diplomatic save in the Rockies.

I just saying, i personally don't like it. Like i said, its trivial and irrelevant anyways.

 

[Albion]

wait, can people invent materials? If we can i'd personally like to make a good energy material in areas of all of africa.

 

[Alteras]

wait, can people invent materials? If we can i'd personally like to make a good energy material in areas of all of africa.

The previous player who controlled oroguay (now Singaporean Africa) did say there is a rare metal or something in the area which boosted their economy. He never specified it or explained its uses, so you can use that.

 

[Clockwork_Magic]

Well, seeing as Eclipe, the old Oruguay guy, and myself have some sort of unique material in our possession, I might as well make a mechanic for it.

 

[Clockwork_Magic]

Well, seeing as Eclipe, the old Oruguay guy, and myself have some sort of unique material in our possession, I might as well make a mechanic for it.

And what I meant was raw materials, components don't count.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

Well, seeing as Eclipe, the old Oruguay guy, and myself have some sort of unique material in our possession, I might as well make a mechanic for it.

And Provinces, thems would be good idea to.

 

[Alteras]

[QUOTE="Loyal Guardian]And Provinces, thems would be good idea to.

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Way ahead off you. District 8 is about to come out!

 

[Kazami42]

@Fishman Lord[/URL] and @Wickedkent should just split the islands, they're literally just snow and nothingness (it's a word) why are you two fighting over them so much it's not like they're valuable xD

I enjoy peace too, but I feel like peace will be used so much for explanation of things, that people start killing over it. Lol.

wait, can people invent materials? If we can i'd personally like to make a good energy material in areas of all of africa.

Like alt said, you could use the material previous Africa used to do whatever you want with. Maybe you will actually come up with a use for it lol.

[QUOTE="Loyal Guardian]I just saying, i personally don't like it. Like i said, its trivial and irrelevant anyways.

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It can end a war. That's pretty much the entire point, otherwise it quite is except if you're in the farther east. Where it is used for relations, and businesses.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

Way ahead off you. District 8 is about to come out!

I mean a Provinces Mechanic would be a good idea in my opinion. That way the regions are more organized and are easy to track. Of course players don't have to name them Provinces, they can be something like States, Cantons, Prefectures, etc.

 

[Kent]

Cascadia has sakuradite, we traded with deym

 

[Clockwork_Magic]

Unique materials mechanic has been added. Still thinking on what to put for a regions mechanic.

 

[Kazami42]

Yay! Something I can tinker with until the Congress is over.

 

[Alteras]

Unique materials mechanic has been added. Still thinking on what to put for a regions mechanic.

I think the regions mechanic should add to stability or so. It allows for individual government, which makes it less of a strain on national governments.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

I think the regions mechanic should add to stability or so. It allows for individual government, which makes it less of a strain on national governments.

That's what i'm sayin!

 

[Alteras]

@Albion @Charlie12520 we should decide what special material we're all gonna use in Africa. I was gonna have my own in South East Asia, but I already own territory in africa, so im joining this train instead.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

[QUOTE="Domini Regum]The Varmandian spokesman thought for a minute.
"Yes... the nation of Varmandr Vestan agrees to all"

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OMG He's back!