Fishman Lord
ULTIMATE AI GOD
I still think that an army higher than the world population is plain ridiculous. If they have better tech and such, how do we win?
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I still think that an army higher than the world population is plain ridiculous. If they have better tech and such, how do we win?
Clockwork_Magic
*Gears turning*
Numbers aren't always everything. The aliens don't know Earth's geography like we do, which is why most of us are able to perform successful guerrilla attacks. Everything has a weakness, you just need to figure it out, which is why I gassed those alien prisoners.
Fishman Lord
ULTIMATE AI GOD
Numbers aren't everything, but over 4 billion is a ridiculous number. I keep hearing this sort of thing, but 4 billion+ is simply too much.
Clockwork_Magic
*Gears turning*
He didn't even deploy the 4+ billion at once, he's deploying them in waves, because he wants us to have a fighting chance. If he deployed them all at once then, yes, we're screwed, but he hasn't.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
The beast has been awaken.
Kent
Imagination will bring us everywhere
this is the feeling of being screwed, but why are there no red areas in the rockies? so much for having losses
Kent
Imagination will bring us everywhere
thats also a draft, they are just civilians with a couple of weeks training
LoneSniper87
Dirtyhands
Ok so looking at this map of the Occupation... South Africa, Parts of Asia and Europe, Central and part of northern South America, then that huge chunk of Russia. Then those Islands along North America.... We stll have a good bit of land over them, and like was stated before, they do not know the geography well. Also didn't we like build up our nations from underground before we came above? There is always that to think about. And also, you could deploy tactics that make,your force much smaller than it seems so they underestimate your forces.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
Or go the kazami route:
Troll the enemy, and eventually rip their balls off and domesticate them as pets.
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Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
I mean you can find the genitalia and rip it off, but domesticating them is easier said than done.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
They have their so called "mother russia" and the redline's leader in a nordic jail cell. They do not care about the technicalities, they only care if they can achieve it. If they can or believe they can achieve they will pursue it until completed.
The soviets and imperials have done far worse experiments than what they will put the Grenshu through at the moment, that is all I can say lol.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
Some parts my recently post is from a POV, so don't question them thinking gas works against suits lol.
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
Dude i keep getting the same thing from you, and i keep giving you the same answers: I ACTUALLY WANT US TO WIN (by us i mean Humanity). I get that you're against the invasion and that our relations are strained, however everyone else is dealing with it like an actual player while you are just sitting back being stubborn about it (at least that's how it seems to me). Not to mention the fact that you expelled them from your country so far, so i don't see why you're complaining. Plus i am deploying them in waves, otherwise you guys wouldn't stand a chance. Now if you want a challenge, i can divert forces from East Siberia to you, it wouldn't be that hard.
And i did deploy 3 Billion in the East Siberian Complex, but they are there purely for defending the place.
Fishman Lord
ULTIMATE AI GOD
Nice one, threatening to use your powers as a mod to hurt another player. I'm not complaining about it because you're doing it, I'm complaining about it because you clearly don't understand the magnitude of that number. At absolute most, the world's military is at 300 million, and that is at absolute capacity, throwing untrained troops and rush-produced equipment at the Grenshu. Furthermore, that has to be divided between all the nations, who have fragmented movements and interests, while the Grenshu are united and have data on all of earth. To add on to this shitshow, the Grenshu have a thousand-year or more tech advantage. Now if the tech advantage is 50-year or so, it can be defeated by homefield tactics and such, but if the tech advantage is that far ahead, in all realism it would crush anything as far behind as humanity. The fact is, while movies show us having a fighting chance against an alien invasion, any real invasion by a civilization of interstellar aliens would always be lost by humanity. We also have evidence that the Grenshu have conquered interstellar empires much larger than earth, based on the species within their troop composition. And that, my friend, is why that number is unbeatable.
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
First let me say sorry for the misunderstanding. I wasn't threatening you at all, i was legibility asking if you wanted me to send some forces to you so it's not boring for you, that way you have something to do. Although i may do it anyways because your don't have any occupied lands in your area. But still, it's nicer to ask than do (well sometimes).
And yes the possibility exists to win. As of right now all of their forces are split, scattered, and deployed across various fronts. And even though they far surpass us in the tech department, they have minimal idea on how the terrain on Earth could be used to their advantage. Which in turn gives it to us. We have homefield advantage, they're cut off from their main forces, the forces they do have are scattered across varying fronts. On top of all of that they have never faced a species like us who is so fragmented, so divided, so far from unity, yet so ferocious, so determined, and so unprecedentedly strong that some within their ranks actually fear going into battle against us. They were fighting us like a species who were still using stone tools, when in reality were are on the brink of interplanetary colonization, and in a way they are still underestimating us and are fighting like they have this in the bag: When in reality they don't.
RIPSaidCone
tolmie
Are you on drugs?
Cascadia is a real life independence movement for the Pacific Northwest. I didn't take it from a book. (sorry to steal your thunder but you haven't exposed me or anything)
RIPSaidCone
tolmie
@Loyal Guardian
That feeling when only small isolated pockets of Eclipsian land have been taken compared to my entire southern territory. Because event powers ecks dee.
That feeling when only small isolated pockets of Eclipsian land have been taken compared to my entire southern territory. Because event powers ecks dee.
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
I am actually working on a post about that right now. Those pockets are about to hugely combine and take over that area (save for Athens and upper Yugoslavia).
RIPSaidCone
tolmie
I would do a massive push to take back my rightful land but I forgot that only Loyal can do that.
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
What ya mean?
RIPSaidCone
tolmie
We all know that within a few posts the Eclipsians are going to do one massive hooray victory push and wipe out their Grenshu attackers. Whilst I just lost around 8 million troops, 6.5 of which hadn't even finished training (the milita I had forming) and 10,000 or so tanks because "lol ecksdee, eclipse is only dominant country" I also lot a huge chunk of land and half my population. Thanks Loyal, appreciate it. Whilst the Eclipse have so far lost some desert and mountains. And I know you're going to try compensate for that by making yourself lose a whole ton of stuff but again we all know you're going to take it all back long before anyone else.
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Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
If it makes you feel better they've stopped their push for supplies. This is you're opportune moment to make one large push against them yourselves. Either way it will be hard for both of us. The reason i won that victory was because of the movements and acts committed by Hayden and the Titan-AA's positioning and targeting. However in that battle they weren't facing 500 million Grenshu, now my entire armed forces has to face that (along with militia) that have taken over a huge portion of the Western half of my country.
RIPSaidCone
tolmie
No it doesn't really. Because as I've seen so far from your post, my forces seemingly don't stand a chance against them. They literally steamrolled my entire front line within a single push, AND the only thing I had that was better than what they had, my jet fighters are being made redundant because. "aliens" And that's the excuse you use as well, you say you want Humanity to win but I'm getting the idea that you want the Eclipsians to win and for everyone else to barely make it out of the invasion alive, with a destroyed military and ruined economy. Even if you don't want the Eclipsians to be the only winners, you're going to send EVERYONE back to the stone age for no real reason other than as you love to say. "aliens"
Also my rifles would destroy their armor, and don't say "aliens lol" because that's stupid. You said kinetic energy pierces through their armor, if that's true then my rifles would one hit them. Also yeah, make up for it and lose half your population as well and have your only decent weapon against them become redundant because aliens you know?
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
You have militia and people willing to fight, use em'. The only weapons that i have that are truly effective against them is the Titan-AA's, but unless i change the entire ship composition, then i don't see them becoming redundant (unless i run out of ammo for them). Not only that, but you have Naval assets, which can be used to bombard their positions and take out troop movements. You also seem to miss understand the fact that in the Battle of the Basin i lost A LOT OF PEOPLE, over a million which excludes civilian casualties. So i'd say that i am taking this pretty bad and in fact i am struggling. 500 Million aliens have taken over the Levant, Anatolia, most of the Balkans, and Arabia. I have to face that with 6 Million men, which will be very hard unless i use the entirety of my mechanized forces and aerial assets just to have a hope. You are facing the same problem but guess what: they are bottleneck in an area where you're navy can surround them and fire at their positions which would do more damage considering they are more close together.
RIPSaidCone
tolmie
But my fighter jets become redundant because they can somehow make a vastly improved model in less than a month with relatively limited combat experience against my F-38's. Loyal, I know you well enough to know that the moment I begin using my naval superiority to my advantage that the Grenshu will come up with some kind of super-advanced, unbeatable naval ship to destroy entire fleets in one shot. Or just send space frigates and destroyers to wipe them out with ease. I essentially sign my navy's death warrant by using them against the godly grenshu that have counters to everything that has ever existed and ever will exist, the moment I use them in combat because aliens of course. You lost over a million, wow. I lost 8 million if you decided to wipe out the Southern Milita too that were training to become troops and being equipped which you probably did. You're not struggling, you've lost small amounts of land and a million men, I've lost a considerable chunk of my land and much more than you have in terms of manpower and materials. Also a destruction ratio of 5 to 1, that better be in my tanks favor otherwise I am literally done for with no hope of survival. Also that may be the case for Central America but South America isn't a bottleneck.